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I was not raised in very religious home besides when my mother wanted to shove religion down me and my brother's throat when it was convenient. It seemed to me that having a "church home" in the south was very important and I always believed in God even though Christianity was not practiced in our home. My mother's biological family is Catholic and because my grandmother decided to give my mother up for adoption, my mother decided that she wanted nothing more to do with the faith. Fortunately, I kept in touch with the family and was attracted to the church since middle school. After I studied other faiths to make sure Catholicism was really the route I wanted to take. I was confirmed at 18 my freshman year in college.
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I definitely agree with you DWAlphaGam. I was baptized Catholic as a baby, but never really followed the faith. My parents weren't big church goers and I was really only baptized to make my maternal grandmother happy (big hispanic Roman Catholic woman). My sister on the other hand became very involved with church at the end of middle school and went through confirmation and everything. I certainly believe in God and and the basic teaching of morality but a lot of the "rules" and ceremony involved with many religions, I think, can ruin that for some people. I am a big believer in the idea that you can have a relationship with God and be a good person without claiming any faith in particular or going to church every week.
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I was raised in the Catholic Church, the only one of 3 brothers that still practices (it wasn't forced on us at all). I went to a Catholic HS and was actually given the opportunity there to debate a lot of church philosophy. There, I was introduced to Aquinas.
If you're Catholic you should check out Summae Theologica (you might want to get a condensed version or a book about it since it's 26 volumes). St. Thomas Aquinas actually reconciles most of the Catholic Doctrine at that time with Aristotalian Logic. Much of his reasoning is very sound -- there's still something of a leap of faith, but I think that Aquinas makes it more tolerable. I don't agree with 100% of what my church believes (who does?) nor would I consider myself to be a perfect Catholic. I haven't been going to Church lately but might actually start going if I can find a job that doesn't require me to work Sundays. If I ever have kids they will definitely be raised in the church. If I get married, I'd like to have that done in the church as well. |
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just for the record
I believe our soul is energy. I believe energy never dies it changes form. When we die, depending on the energy we posses (be it negative or positive), THAT will determine how strong the force that draws us to the purest energy (God) and how close to him we will be. Now I don't know where this thinking would fall, but
I do consider myself very spiritual. Question on Buddhism. Do you believe in the different levels of atonement (Is it 7???) and if not, what faith is that? Second-Once we die, if you do NOT believe in a Supreme Power and you suddenly discover their is ONE GOD, do you think you are in serious trouble and banned to hell, or will you be forgiven? My take refers back to the positive and negative energy you have acquired during your life. St. Thomas Acquiness (sp?) said it is better to question, seek answers and return a believer than to never question at all. The faith of a seeker has been tested and so it goes the faith is stronger. |
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Wow Justamom, that was pretty deep. I always wondered how believers of ____ (insert your faith here) would react if they found out ______ was the real religion.
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I am a Christian - I became one at 5 years old. I have always believed in God, that Jesus is God's son, He died and rose to save us from sin, etc. I have not always been as strong in my faith and practiced it to the extent that I should, but I believe that God is gracious and good and forgiving. Something that people tend to forget about churches when they decide to go off on a tirade: Churches are full of PEOPLE. People don't become perfect and less human when they practice a religion or faith, yet sometimes a person can be so quick to blast them for offenses that the person theirself is practicing. I don't agree with everything my church teaches, and I believe that it is the responsibility for every person to give a thorough and intelligent answer when asked why they believe what they believe.
My brother grew up southern baptist, and now thinks he's Catholic. He goes to Mass once a year, and married a Catholic girl (who was not practicing) and my nephew was christened in a Catholic church. Evidently, all this makes him Catholic. :rolleyes: |
When I was 7, I was baptized in the Lutheran church where my parents were married, mostly because my grandmother threw a fit when she found out I wasn't. It's not to say that I didn't believe in God, or that my whole family didn't go to church... I guess it just slipped my parents mind. It was a very happy day for me and although I wasn't the biggest expert on religion at age 7, it held some very good memories and I was proud to be baptized.
I continued to believe and grow spiritually throughout adolesence. We switched to a popular non-denominational church, Willow Creek Community Church (I'm mentioning this because, believe it or not, a lot of people have heard of it). They do "baby dedications" because they want it to be the person's choice and based on a lot of thought. Basically the parents promise to raise their child to know Christ so that they can make the decision when they're older. When I was 18, I chose to be rebaptized though. I made a big step when I was 15, even though I had thought all along that Jesus was my savior, it was then that I publicly proclaimed it and truly felt like I had dedicated myself. I'd say that being baptized when you are old enough to make the decision yourself is definitely important. Being educated as a child is also important too, but if the decision isn't your own, or something you're not ready for, then I don't think you truly believe, and (IMHO of course) God doesn't want to force you into faith because he wants you to truly love him, not just be forced to. And I'm sorry if this was super preachy "the story of astroAPhi's life", but I've had a really good experience and I like to share it in hopes that people will understand my point of view better. :) |
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I think it's great when people wait til they're "mature" to dedicate themselves to their religion (if their faith requires such a thing). I think a little bit of testing beforehand is a good idea because especially in churches which emphasize emotions over reason, people get caught up in stuff, and then backslide pretty quickly. That not only hurts the person but reflects badly on his/her faith. I find it fascinating that in Judaism (traditionally) a person who approaches a synagogue to convert is refused up to 3 times, to test their conviction. Some people say "Oh how harsh and unwelcoming!" But I bet it keeps out the "religious nuts". At my mosque some of the ladies will work to help anyone convert. They've "converted" about 4 people who have certifiable mental problems. According to Islam, those who are insane or mentally incapable are not accountable to God for their actions. It's an embarrassment for me and my faith, and these people don't even realize they've converted. One lady shows up at the mosque in shorts and a tank top and a bandana tied around her head. Another calls people and asks what religion she is. Another talks about "the blood of christ" at the mosque. :eek:
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Judaism also does not proselytize. Jews don't go out and seek converts; you have to go to them. |
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Apparently a few years ago Campus Crusade for Christ showed up on Marquette's campus and tried to convert. They weren't very successful, and the Jesuits had a field day with them. |
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Every once in a while we get a pamphlet on our apartment door with a drawing of people burning in hell and a phone # to contact a man who can help us be 'saved'.........whatever, like that's really gonna convince me :rolleyes: |
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I'm glad that Catholicism doesn't. I don't believe Lutherans do, but one Lutheran I know is certainly the exception. The other night at a bonfire he was going on a tirade about how all non-Lutherans were rotting in Hell, in a group of a bunch of Catholics (and one other Lutheran) who had a good friend from high school, a step-father, a boyfriend, and several grandparents die in the last two years - none of whom were Lutheran. I was going to yell at him, but then realized he would never change his mind, so I just got up and left. |
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