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Iota_JWH 04-30-2020 10:13 PM

NPC has been looking at many different scenarios. They are due to release recommendations to collegian Panhellenics on May 11.

AZ-AlphaXi 05-01-2020 01:33 PM

University of Alabama just released their 2020 recruitment guide

http://www.uapanhellenic.com/greek-c...ruitment-guide

Titchou 05-01-2020 02:15 PM

Alabama also says they will open with on campus students this fall and have football.https://www.cbs42.com/news/health/co...ib3WA9BiDh5Fhg

SigmaCat 05-02-2020 08:31 PM

Yeah, I don't think a standard rush is in the cards AT ALL, ANYWHERE this year. I wouldn't want to chance it. Big formal recruitment scares me more than theme parks, frankly.

zTaalum 05-03-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SigmaCat (Post 2475177)
Yeah, I don't think a standard rush is in the cards AT ALL, ANYWHERE this year. I wouldn't want to chance it. Big formal recruitment scares me more than theme parks, frankly.

If a state has moved into phase 3 there is no reason why they shouldn't have one especially if on campus classes are being held.

NYCMS 05-03-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by zTaalum (Post 2475188)
If a state has moved into phase 3 there is no reason why they shouldn't have one especially if on campus classes are being held.

I read something yesterday that made me think rush should be deferred until January even if colleges are back to school in person: Don't do all non-essential things at once.

Meaning don't go to the salon, then to a gift store, then to a restaurant all in short order, whether on the same day or within a week's time. Space out the non-essentials to avoid crowds. Add in backlash which can lead to re-infection: in Stillwater, OK (home to Oklahoma State) there was such an uproar about people being required to wear masks into stores so the mayor suspended requiring masks (but "encouraging" people to wear them which won't enforce it and make the difference it should). That's a recipe for disaster.

Bottom line: there's no reason to hold rush in the fall given the pandemic. Let students come back to campus. They'll be clustered enough in classes, dorms and if football resumes, at games. Things need to resume slowly, as being recommended, in stages.

Why add another (and yes, non-essential) activity into the mix? Many schools hold deferred rush, with success from what I've read on here, so this could be an option.

zTaalum 05-03-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCMS (Post 2475196)
I read something yesterday that made me think rush should be deferred until January even if colleges are back to school in person: Don't do all non-essential things at once.

Meaning don't go to the salon, then to a gift store, then to a restaurant all in short order, whether on the same day or within a week's time. Space out the non-essentials to avoid crowds. Add in backlash which can lead to re-infection: in Stillwater, OK (home to Oklahoma State) there was such an uproar about people being required to wear masks into stores so the mayor suspended requiring masks (but "encouraging" people to wear them which won't enforce it and make the difference it should). That's a recipe for disaster.

Bottom line: there's no reason to hold rush in the fall given the pandemic. Let students come back to campus. They'll be clustered enough in classes, dorms and if football resumes, at games. Things need to resume slowly, as being recommended, in stages.

Why add another (and yes, non-essential) activity into the mix? Many schools hold deferred rush, with success from what I've read on here, so this could be an option.

There are so many opinion articles about how to move forward that I take them with a grain a salt and honestly I don't agree with this view at all. I also think there are several reasons why things should go as planned in the fall if a state has entered "Phase 3" .

I think in end it will come down to the individual schools doing what they feel is in the best interest of their student body . I think NPC will give recommendations but also allow schools to make their own decisions. I would be willing to bet money big SEC schools will proceed as planned.

carnation 05-03-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zTaalum (Post 2475201)
I would be willing to be money big SEC schools will proceed as planned.

Heavens, yes. I have heard too many stories about how Ole Miss's later rush screwed up women's classes/studying/etc.

Benzgirl 05-03-2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2475202)
Heavens, yes. I have heard too many stories about how Ole Miss's later rush screwed up women's classes/studying/etc.

Would it kill the schools to move to deferred recruitment under the circumstances? If my DD was planning to go through recruitment in early August, I would tell her that Greek Life wasn't worth killing her.

Yes, I'm impartial but I like the way tOSU does it in January.
Saturday/Sunday - Meet the Chapters
Friday Evening - Round 2
Saturday - Round 3
Sunday - Pref
MLK Holiday - Bid Day.

It doesn't hit mid terms, it doesn't interfer with football games and PNMs don't need to return early before the semester begins. It also gives PNMs without bids a better chance to stay in school because, junst maybe, they have found there are more opportunities in college for involvement.

carnation 05-03-2020 11:13 PM

They would need more than 4 days.

shirley1929 05-04-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2475209)
They would need more than 4 days.

Exactly...and I think the bigger (SEC/Big 12) schools might have to spread out their recruitment further to make smaller parties. They're not saying they're doing that now, but it does make me squirm at the sizes of some of these parties.

My worry isn't for the collegians, it's for the older professors and other staff members that would be working around/with the students.

zTaalum 05-04-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 2475207)
Would it kill the schools to move to deferred recruitment under the circumstances? If my DD was planning to go through recruitment in early August, I would tell her that Greek Life wasn't worth killing her.

Yes, I'm impartial but I like the way tOSU does it in January.
Saturday/Sunday - Meet the Chapters
Friday Evening - Round 2
Saturday - Round 3
Sunday - Pref
MLK Holiday - Bid Day.

It doesn't hit mid terms, it doesn't interfer with football games and PNMs don't need to return early before the semester begins. It also gives PNMs without bids a better chance to stay in school because, junst maybe, they have found there are more opportunities in college for involvement.

Again if big theme parks are on the verge of opening and girls can live in a tiny dorm room next to each other stacked on top of each other than sorority recruitment can go on. The average person has over a 98% chance of surviving this virus so your "worth killing " comment is a little dramatic.

Until you have experienced recruitment or a bid day at a big SEC school you can't possibly understand how much of a Greek life killer winter recruitment would be to these campuses. I know girls who choose schools like Alabama over schools like OSU, Uof M and many others simply based on the Greek life there. Silly maybe but it's a big factor.

shirley1929 05-04-2020 01:31 PM

TCU sounds like they're already hedging for some sort of change to recruitment (from their Panhellenic website: https://tcupanhellenic.com/covid-19)

TCU is a larger recruitment (pledge classes around 70, 40-50% of the total student population). Not as big as an Alabama, but not small either.

I think it will all go on in the fall. I just think there will be changes.

As for schools hoping to have football season as planned, I thought this was a good interview with the Big 12 commissioner about all the different mental scenarios they're running through at this point... The worry isn't the beginning of the season, it's that this comes roaring back in the later months at the beginning of flu season.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...disrupt-season

zTaalum 05-04-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2475230)
TCU sounds like they're already hedging for some sort of change to recruitment (from their Panhellenic website: https://tcupanhellenic.com/covid-19)

TCU is a larger recruitment (pledge classes around 70, 40-50% of the total student population). Not as big as an Alabama, but not small either.

I think it will all go on in the fall. I just think there will be changes.

As for schools hoping to have football season as planned, I thought this was a good interview with the Big 12 commissioner about all the different mental scenarios they're running through at this point... The worry isn't the beginning of the season, it's that this comes roaring back in the later months at the beginning of flu season.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...disrupt-season

That's why I think getting it done in August is a better idea. Also I think with
the new information about the virus not being able to survive high heat and humidity makes August sound even better especially for the southern states.

Benzgirl 05-04-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2475209)
They would need more than 4 days.

That was 5 days if you count the outline in my post.


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