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AKA2D '91 08-29-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanizdSkillz (Post 1510195)
LOL @ the shoutin

And yes, trust me I know the conversations and the mess that goes on behind the scenes with Bishop Morton. His brother pastors here in Atlanta as well. I've been present for one too many conversations where plots of an ungodly nature have been made for different church services/conferences/events. You'd be amazed at what is discussed in the "inner circle".



You ain't never lied.

hmph!!!! see.... :rolleyes:
You tryina get me started. :p ;)
All I'mma say is Debra is GOOD! I guess that's why she's the co-pastor. She gets a cut too. :smirk:

CrimsonTide4 08-29-2007 08:53 PM

I want to know. :o:p

I get what you all are saying though. I think a lot of pastors are focusing more on business than ministry which is why we have churches where unless you are big bank offering giver, you can't get married by the pastor let alone have the pastor give your eulogy or come see you when you're sick even if your great grandfather built the church that passa preaches in these days.:(

AKA2D '91 08-29-2007 09:19 PM

That too.

delph998 08-29-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanizdSkillz (Post 1509776)
I'm pretty convinced at this point that they have Apostle licenses on sale at Wal-Mart for 49.95. Apostle is the new Bishop I suppose. The funny thing is, an Apostle is someone who goes about and establishes churches under one fellowship IE: BISHOP Paul Morton, BISHOP Eddie L. Long. I emphasize Bishop because even though both of them act under the capacity of Apostles, they are yet still under the title of Bishop. I've come to find that those who take on this Apostle title are usually pastors of storefront churches whose membership peaks at about 50 on a good Sunday. Despise not small beginnings, true enough, but also be a steward over the few things first and not jump out of your lane into someone else's.

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1509801)
Re: Bishops and such... :rolleyes: @ Paul Morton. :rolleyes: My co-worker's son "oversees" one of his new churches in BR. I guess he'll be coined a Apostle, soon. She's kind of :mad: b/c I won't visit the church when I go home. Ummm, I don't visit my mother's church that often. I always make my way to my church on a Sunday AM. :D

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Originally Posted by UrbanizdSkillz (Post 1510195)
And yes, trust me I know the conversations and the mess that goes on behind the scenes with Bishop Morton. His brother pastors here in Atlanta as well. I've been present for one too many conversations where plots of an ungodly nature have been made for different church services/conferences/events. You'd be amazed at what is discussed in the "inner circle".


Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!

Why are there thousands of mega churches with a memberships between 5-30,000 members, but the world is getting worse and the members [meaning the Christians] are becoming more confused?

Why are there four to five Christian channels on television, but the world is getting worse?

Something clearly isn't right.

CrimsonTide4 08-29-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1510246)
Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!.

Maybe God just called them to GO to church, not PASTOR the church.
Maybe God's call to serve was more along the lines of the USHER BOARD not the pulpit.

And some of them just want a wider population to choose from to get their freaky sneaky on.

delph998 08-29-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1510248)
Maybe God just called them to GO to church, not PASTOR the church.
Maybe God's call to serve was more along the USHER BOARD not the pulpit.

And some of them just want a wider population to choose from to get their freaky sneaky on.

Sad but true! You preachin'! :)

Dionysus 08-29-2007 09:29 PM

Nice location CT4. ;) How come I just noticed it? lol

CrimsonTide4 08-29-2007 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dionysus (Post 1510252)
Nice location CT4. ;) How come I just noticed it? lol


I changed it after ShamikaT -- my favorite fictional GCer -- last posted.;)

UrbanizdSkillz 08-30-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1510248)
Maybe God just called them to GO to church, not PASTOR the church.
Maybe God's call to serve was more along the lines of the USHER BOARD not the pulpit.

And some of them just want a wider population to choose from to get their freaky sneaky on.

SAY THAT!

AKA2D '91 08-30-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1510246)
Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!

Why are there thousands of mega churches with a memberships between 5-30,000 members, but the world is getting worse and the members [meaning the Christians] are becoming more confused?

Why are there four to five Christian channels on television, but the world is getting worse?

Something clearly isn't right.

Valid questions and concerns. Things that make you go hmmmmm!

virgo921 08-30-2007 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1510246)
Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!

Why are there thousands of mega churches with a memberships between 5-30,000 members, but the world is getting worse and the members [meaning the Christians] are becoming more confused?

Why are there four to five Christian channels on television, but the world is getting worse?

Something clearly isn't right.

Say THAT!

What about the "in the world not of it" part? This is a MESS. Folks have forgotten that this whole "church business" isn't supposed to be about them, but the people they serve.

Sad I tell ya, just sad.

CrimsonTide4 08-30-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1510246)
Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!

Why are there thousands of mega churches with a memberships between 5-30,000 members, but the world is getting worse and the members [meaning the Christians] are becoming more confused?

Why are there four to five Christian channels on television, but the world is getting worse?

Something clearly isn't right.

I didn't realize you added to your post until just now.

Because some of these mega churches are doing it for the clout, not the Christ.

If you are really about Jesus, you'll be tested like everyone is, but God would always get the glory for helping you overcome and your ministry would be evidentiary support of that. It seems to me.

AKA2D '91 08-30-2007 09:25 AM

How do you all feel about the phrase "EVERYTHING is a blessing"?

If you rob a bank and from that robbery, you receive thousands of dollars, is that a blessing?

UrbanizdSkillz 08-30-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1510432)
How do you all feel about the phrase "EVERYTHING is a blessing"?

If you rob a bank and from that robbery, you receive thousands of dollars, is that a blessing?


I happen to live by the principal that if you get things in the wrong way, what was once meant to bless you will end up cursing you.

As far as everything being a blessing, and based upon the example given, God orchestrates everything true enough but He has also given us free will. I don't think God just spoke into somebody's spirit to go and rob a bank. We are commanded to obey the laws of the land and uhh I don't think they making robbery legal these days lol.

CrimsonTide4 08-30-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UrbanizdSkillz (Post 1510481)
I happen to live by the principal that if you get things in the wrong way, what was once meant to bless you will end up cursing you.

As far as everything being a blessing, and based upon the example given, God orchestrates everything true enough but He has also given us free will. I don't think God just spoke into somebody's spirit to go and rob a bank. We are commanded to obey the laws of the land and uhh I don't think they making robbery legal these days lol.

I agree with your entire post.


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