On another note, Honeykiss, where did you get that quote from?
I heard it the other day and I can't figure out where, and it's driving me insane.

Yes, there were Africans who participated in the slave trade, a fact that is often minimized by pro-reparationists. Many African tribes had slaves from the rival tribes And of course it was not only America that had slaves -- most countries in Europe, the Carribean islands and (I think) even southwest Asian countries had slaves or at least participated in their slave trading in other countries. Still, that doesn't make it OKAY in any way.

Furthermore, many of the problems in Africa can be (directly or indirectly) attributed to the fact that the strongest and healthiest Africans were removed from the country and sent into slavery. I think it would be very interesting to see how Africa would have turned out if slavery had never existed. It would be a whole lot different, I'm sure. Not only would Africa be a lot stronger, but America would be a lot weaker.

As I said before, I think the argument for reparations (at least in their current form, i.e. direct compensation to all African-Americans by all non-African-Americans) is ridiculous -- but there is no way that you can argue that this country doesn't owe quite a bit of its reputation as "the world's only superpower" to the fact that we once had a legal slave trade.

Thanks Damasa...

I got this quote from a discussion on the SGR board. Someone posted it as part of their response, so I kind of "borrowed it".:D

Have you all gone mad!!??? This is getting way out of hand. End this now!!!! There is no point wasting your time on this subject. The controversial subject of reparations has been blasted, thought over and criticized for years now. Will it ever happen? Only time will tell, till then, lets please move on.

Just a little interjection...

A Portland Oregon based Talk Radio station is collecting dirt (yes, dirt) to send with a mule to this guy. They are attempting to get 1 acre by 1/4 inch deep worth of dirt.

Yawn. My suggestion is to go hit your books, and don't quote In Living Color with the snaps because after all, it was a creation of people who bug you.

BTW, I love big words. I've used big words all my life.
I like a good debate, but with people who are receptive to other ideas. And you don't seem to be, judging from your posts.
I'm too busy living to deal with pathetic cases.

What does you being called a F___ W____ B_____ have to do with idea of being that person being better or "more equaal" :confused: than you? You still can't seem to realize that maybe.....
just maybe....
you just pissed someone off and that was it???

Oh Lawd, I am truly in amazement at some of things that just keeping coming this chile!:eek:

That makes 2 of us!

PM_Mama, do you really think that all of this is as simple as blaming white people for everything?? Sigh.

You seem to group EVERY complaint that you hear from a Black person under one category: Just another black person blaming whitey. Sorry, but not everyone IS blaming white people for everything. However, it is TRUE that the plight of Black people today is due to:

systematic

and

institutionalized

racism

and it is the direct result of hundreds of years of oppression (which, indeed, continues today).

I am glad you have said outright that you are prejudiced, you have been in denial for a little while now.

Jews and Blacks cannot be compared, nor can any other minority's past/present/future...and despite your rebuttal, comparing them is absolutely what you did.

PM_Mama, I cannot fathom how you can call yoursef "open-minded" and in the same breath say you are prejudiced. Does that make sense to anyone??

And yes, I too am tired of the whiners. I am very weary of those paranoid people who believe that everything is a conspiracy against Blacks. Not EVERYTHING is. But when it comes to the present ramifications of slavery, I am sorry, but that cannot be denied or refuted. And if it tires you to hear about it, that's fine. STOP PERPETUATING IT. Then maybe you won't have to hear it so much.

And you wonder why....Sometimes I wonder how white people would function if they just happened to be born black or any other non-white ethnicity. So I'm guessing you are going to teach your children the same prejudice and racism that you have...

Anyone that wants 40 acres and a mule is just looking for a free ride.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. You took the words/thoughts right out of my mouth.

While it saddens me that a supposedly educated, upwardly mobile young woman (PM_Mama) would spout such nonsensical garbage, I am also grateful for her honesty. It keeps me on my toes, reminds me to never get too comfortable and reinforces that bigotry and intolerance are still alive and kicking in 2002, even among my peers. It brings to mind the saying, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". PM_Mama, you have really shown your true colors in this and in other threads, but at least you have the balls to do it. So, keep telling us how you really feel. And thank you for distancing yourself from Phi Mu. That way you're only embarrassing yourself and not your entire organization.

Well, PM_Mama - - you're prejudism ought to really start trippin' out when I tell you this....I'm racially mixed..

Sicilian (25%), Spanish (Malaga) (25%) and BLACK (50%).

Got a problem with that? You think you're blood is hot...mine is straight up boiling over the bull crap that you've posted on this thread.