I'd be interested in hearing how that goes.[/QUOTE]

Those groups will ignore what is said about them. Because it's Texas. And the women who go through the process at UT would rather pledge a local at Sam Houston State (if there was one) than poke the bears that are the Big 3.

They look you over at Roundup. They know before you ever hit Austin City Limits if you are going to be one of them.

OMG peeps, I'm on painkillers and i figured this out.

1. Agsis complained about a poster from Greek rank lifting a post from this site nd copying it to g rank.
2. Nan said she's sorry someone at gr did that but that's life.
3. Ag azks for no GCers to quote her. I'm assuming she means on GC.
4. Nan says that's kinda lame.(shes also assuming ag means on gc)
5. Everyone flips their zhit and thinks Nan is posting things from here all over the interweb.

I don't think any regular poster on this site would copy other people's posts from this site and put them on gr.

Now on another note.

I've come to the conclusion that UT should just get rid of formal rush and do informal rush to bid up to total. That way no one has to talk to anyone that they don't want to talk to. It would probably be a lot healthier for the rushees. Now if the person who is borderline anal about freshmen meeting all chapters is saying that, what does that tell you?

No, not at all. I took quoting as having her posts quoted within this thread/Greek chat. Not the other site.

^^^I was confused as well, so I edited my post, and I apologize for being confused. I am not going to type one more word today. I'm going to the pool.

Thank you! I'm really sorry it came off the other way.

I'm hoping this is tongue in cheek, because THIS would be the mother of all fluster clucks. Recruitment needs some reforming, but informal - and hey, why not informal deferred, while we're talking about ways to totally insure that the vast majority of girls don't get placed. It's only a few chapters that are the problem, and THEY are the ones who need reforming, not those who abide by the rules and get women who might not consider them without going through formal recruitment.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

They don't need to do informal, they just need to go to NO frills like the schools around me have done. Define what decorations, music, etc. are allowed. No glitter, no beverages or food besides plain water, no flowers, no music for a dance party. It's not that hard. It saves a ton of money. It seems like, from pics I've seen, a lot of these schools haven't cut the frills one tiny bit and they seem to be getting quite frilly again. It's ridiculous. No videos, no skits, just talk to these women and get to know them, period.

Preach it, Triad sister!

Belle, I'm proud of the young lady you mentored. Where did she pledge? My rec girl is going through rush there right now.

At my school it was pretty strict. We had skits and slide shows, but otherwise it was very no frills. The only flowers were our pink rose for decoration.

I'd like to be tongue in cheek, but then people say (and I know they're being honest and wish this wasn't, but is):

Perhaps I'm having a particularly cynical day, but when the most prestigious chapters are those with the most horrible behavior, and the rest of the Greek system hasn't run them out of town on a rail, I don't know how to fix that.

In all honesty, and this is just my observation, those 3 groups have their own recruitment "list" of maybe 200 + a few more pnms. Not all of them will make that "cut", but I'm not that far off. There is another group on campus that is strictly for one religious group and then there is everybody else. Most, if not all of the "other" chapters are well aware of this and not naive at all. They go along their way and pledge the best girls for their chapter leaving these "chosen ones" out of their mix unless they have information otherwise. It is a most impressive selection process for the "other" groups. I have to say kudos to them for working it.

I also edited my post! Sorry for the confusion.

Oh, I understood her reference to quoting was almost entirely in reference to lifting her quotes and putting them on the other site. I agree that that is highly uncool, whereas quoting within GreekChat is to be expected.

Woot - double post!
Belle - I think you pointed out on the "dream expansions" thread that Texas has a culture problem that needs to be addressed before expansion can be successful. As a total outsider looking in on this system purely through internet sources, it sounds like you hit the nail on the head regarding recruitment issues, too.

This, I think, is particularly problematic. The entire system (chapters and PNMs) continue to reward the bad behavior. No, not all chapters and PNMs, but enough of them to maintain the status quo.

After reading through some of the comments on GC, I read through the other site and I was amazed at the level of vitriol posted there, particularly in regards to who is participating in formal recruitment this year. I didn't even see just a couple of panhellenic posts to counter to the hate. Just, wow.