BTW, for the AGDs, I found this hex code for buff: #F0DC82

It gives you THIS.

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While that makes sense, it just means Tri Sigma is always sailing east. LOL.

Unless I am facing south looking at my computer... then it's facing west..

Regardless, ever forward :)

Seems pretty logical, but Theta Phi Alpha's pledge pin must always be worn directionally-correct... (ie North at the top)

http://www.pitt.edu/~thetaphi/Theta%...edge%20Pin.jpg

That's the only one I can think of for TPA.

I wish we did specify a standard green! Usually our chapter went towards a kelly green in terms of apparel. Although, the one exception was our matching lettered pullovers, which were more of a hunter green. I'm not a fan of inconsistency.

From my GC post on Buff Roses

I found a very interesting article in the Spring 1977 Quarterly, "What is a Buff Rose" by Jane McLane Reid, EA.

Editor's note before the article, "Early Fraternity history speaks of red and buff roses, but the record is not clear as to what color was actually meant by "buff". Founder Emily Butterfield's song says, "Here's to the Rose, the fair buff rose, in all it's purity...When Tau Chapter was installed in 1919, Ophelia roses were reportedly brought to Toronto b Louise Leonard, A, then Grand President, to be used with crimson ones. Varieties of roses "run out", however and new ones have to be bred; no particular rose is endorsed as Alpha Gamma Delta's "buff rose". The author summaries here what information is available about yellow and buff roses at the time the Fraternity was founded and throughout the years. "

"What did the Founders of Alpha Gamma Delta mean when, in 1905, they chose "crimson and buff roses" as Fraternity flowers?


Crimson roses have grown in gardens for thousands of year...

But a buff rose? True, the American Rose Society describes very few roses as "buff" - but what's buff? Even the dictionaries don't agree.

Webster's Third International Dictionary offers "4a; a moderate orange yellow" and "4b: a light to moderate yellow". The Random House Dictionary of the English Lanquage says "4. yellowish-brown, medium, or dark tan"...

My pledge class was told, informally and unofficially that in roses, "buff" meant "yellow". Yellow and red roses graced our teas, luncheons, and banquets. in Fraternity context, this makes sense. Clear, light-to-medium yellow roses make a pleasing partner to red roses..

Admitting yellow, however, does not unsnarl the puzzle. For good yellow roses are still far fewer than good red ones. And in Syracuse, New York, must have been very rare indeed. the color came to garden roses late. ...

Before 1900, wild yellow roses grew in a few gardens. And hybrid yellow roses, based on the tender Asian ones, flourished near the Gulf Coast - but not in the bitter winters of New York state.

Maybe the Founders' "buff" rose was based, not on a real flower, but on an ideal. Roses, after all, have been the focus of symbolism, sacred and secular, since the beginning of written records.

Regardless of the shade of color they happen to be, it's the association of buff and red roses together that has meaning for Alpha Gamma deltas.

(In the short bio about the author, it says, "Once a dedicated rose grower, she says she now finally gave up the struggle in New Jersey...and her former hybrid tea bed now grows tomatoes.".)

Wonder what she grows 10 years later.

Alpha Gamma Delta has actually had two badges. Our first badge--as it was worn on the day of our Founding--was a monogram with the Alpha chased on the bottom, the Gamma plain in the middle, and the Delta on top set in pearls. If you can envision it, it was basically backwards from what our badge is today.

Our Founders so disliked it that they commissioned jeweler J.F. Newman to come up with several new designs. The new badge was selected by Alpha on November 19, 1904. That badge was the one we all know, love, and wear proudly to this day.

I totally didn't know that, thanks! I love learning Alpha Gam facts:)

Ps. I can barely even imagine what it would look like, I actually had to draw it to figure it out.

Only quirk I can think of atm is with our pledge pin, not our badge. It has to be worn with the garnet half on top, except for Theta Chapter which can wear it Gold over Garnet. And at least one chapter changes which way it is worn each year.

I could be wrong, but I think you could find the buff rose in the middle of this rose: Bella'roma:

http://www.jacksonandperkins.com/web...ucts/24771.jpg

I know that there was an elderly lady who my mother knew when I was a child who had what I'd now call a buff rose.

And this one doesn't have the pinkish edge:

http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.206788...ellow-rose.jpg

I LOLed.

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Sigma Delta Tau's colors are supposed to be cafe au lait and old blue. Pretty much everything uses regular yellow and crayola standard blue. I really don't understand what is so hard about making something with our real colors. Or who decided yellow would look much better on everything. :mad:

Also, the shields on the composites throughout our house (the one's that are up, from the early 60's and on) all have different colors on the background!
Some are the old blue thats on the Wikipedia page (I guess that's the official Pantone color or something), some are a light seafoam, some are a yellowy light green, some are a baby blue..And it's not just aging of the ink, they're legitimately totally different colors. Drives me crazy.

I can't think of any little details like certain things being certain numbers.. Our pin is supposed to face up, although it's a torch, so facing down wouldn't really make sense anyway.

I'm used to "old gold" meaning a metallic gold rather than something more "yellowy," but I don't think I've ever heard "old blue" used before. What shade is meant by that?

Well I was under the impression that old blue had more grey/brown in it than standard blue and a more faded look...kind of like the color of the bar with the thread title in it on GC?
Although I was also told that the color on the crest is actually what old blue is...
http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/i..._delta_tau.gif
Maybe an older member can help me out on this one?
Either way, it's definitely not standard blue.

I'm more bothered by the use of yellow though, because while gold is hard to print sometimes, and yellow makes a good substitute, Cafe Au Lait can be easily printed, or at least light brown would be a better substitute than yellow. Maybe I'm just bitter about the yellow because I don't have the complexion to wear it :o

Thanks. Actually, your post prompted me to go to SDT's website -- the blue there is indeed close to the blue in the GC title thread, but truer:

http://www.sigmadeltatau.com/images/...ols/colors.png

It looks great with the cafe au lait.

just showed this to all of my sisters tonight at chapter. it certainly gives a deeper meaning to our commitment to AOII. thanks for sharing this!