Again,.... we know.

I really wish some of you could understand how silly and simple some of you sound trying to debate this point...

"Well some black people owned slaves too..."

"But a small percent of white people owned slaves"

"We are sorry about making you all slaves...but dont sue us."

"them" = the other races and nationalities and religions. I never said ALL. If I meant ALL, I would have said ALL. And yes, there are some African Americans who do believe that "we" owe them something. I never said anyone specifically on this board. You would never compare it to the Holocaust, but there are people who would and have.

What Freudian slip?


I was just happy that someone brought up other events where people were brutalized (I think I just made that word up) because of what they are. Some (note SOME)* people sweep those events under the rug.

I don't think anyone (ok maybe the KKK and whitepower jackasses) has or will ever forget that slavery existed.

*I said some.

Apparently we all want a big fat reparation check too! Ignorance is catching.

yeah...I want my 40 acres and mule....heh

http://www.africawithin.com/karenga/ethics.htm

*sigh* You're doing exactly what I said. Thanks for making my point.

The few instances you could name does not negate that the NORM of West African slavery (and we are only talking about W. African slavery) was nothing like the NORM of American chattel slavery. As a matter of fact, West Indian slavery was much more brutal than American chattel slavery and some of the barbarism that U.S. slavery got came from there. But, that still does not negate that the norm of W. African slavery was nothing like the norm of American slavery. It was a totally different system, altogether, actually.

And, thanks for not being too condescending to me :rolleyes:... but I have done the research, thanks. Have you done thorough research and not just read the things that would support the position you already held? :cool:

Yes, there were a FEW black slave owners in America, too. There have always been blacks that didn't identify with other blacks. So what?

I guess we don't know better....

Ignorance is catching.:rolleyes::D

Of course we don't. :cool:

We're supposed to know more about other people's history than our own. It's funny. I don't go around telling white people how to be white. More specifically, I would never presume to tell an ethic white person what they don't know about their own history. Now, doesn't that just sound crazy? :confused:

No one is trying to tell you a goddamn thing about your history. No one was arguing anything even remotely related to you two moron's point until you decided to "rebut" every argument with it.

Talking about black africans selling to slave ships =/= saying slavery was ok because africans had slaves too. But it is a wonderful strawman argument if you can't win on a topical point. That being said, at least in my understanding of it, that isn't where this argument came from either.

I think when people in this thread said that Obama's ancestors probably owned slaves too, they were referring to the fact that ALL OF HIS FAMILY IN AMERICA IS/WAS WHITE. But of course that isn't as easy to argue against, so proceed with your foolish misplaced outrage.

GC didn't send me any thread updates so I didn't even see this entire discussion. I don't believe the issue that the folks in the articles had was that there was slave-ownership, but rather that John McCain hasn't acknowledged these members of his extended family.

I think it would be very interesting for McCain to reach out to these relatives. Perhaps he could change their minds about him and his policies. Where better to start than with your own family?

Was it just a rumor or was it ever confirmed that Obama's mother's family in fact owned slaves?

guys...we are 'foolish' and 'morons'...we are so done here....heh

Gee...thank you for setting us straight Mistah Cracker.

No one is trying to win an argument and you're the only moron here. Comment on what you know about from now on. Thanks.