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dgdramadawg 08-18-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by I.C. a Pi Phi (Post 1700587)
I heard quota was 58, and the rest are QA's.

I just heard 55 for quota. Does anyone know for sure?

GreekAlphaSoup 08-18-2008 08:13 PM

http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/

Check here tomorrow or the next day.

shadden 08-18-2008 08:16 PM

My daughter said 58, but looks like most groups are taking more than that.

GPhiBLtColonel 08-18-2008 08:16 PM

It was probably because they had a rather major upheaval in the Greek Life office from what I understand; Claudia Shamp is back as the Director after having previously retired!:eek: Can you imagine being ready to relax and then getting the call to come back????

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Originally Posted by UGAALUM (Post 1700627)
I have the list from my house, but if anyone finds the link of all the houses please post. I am sure I shouldn't post this, but I have a real problem with the UGA Panhel. I sent over 6 e-mails messages this summer asking why the scholarship report for Spring 2008 wasn't posted as the fraternity grades for Spring was posted. I had girls going through rush that wanted to see the grade point averages of the sororities. I NEVER RECEIVED ANY REPLIES BACK which I thought was very unprofessional.


Benzgirl 08-18-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy (Post 1700646)
who are the top 3 sororities at uga

We don't discuss that on GC.

preciousjeni 08-18-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel (Post 1700644)
It was probably because they had a rather major upheaval in the Greek Life office from what I understand; Claudia Shamp is back as the Director after having previously retired!:eek: Can you imagine being ready to relax and then getting the call to come back????

Wow! I didn't even realize that Claudia was out though.

GPhiBLtColonel 08-18-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1700654)
Wow! I didn't even realize that Claudia was out though.


She had retired last school year or the year before as I recall.....

GreekAlphaSoup 08-18-2008 08:25 PM

Besides, there is scholastic rank, rank in size, rank in dues, rank in number in the house, etc.

Here's a scholastic link.

http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/forms/Rank.pdf

UGAALUM 08-18-2008 08:47 PM

GreekAlpha Soup I appreciate it , but this is the Fall 2007. The Spring 2008 was out 4 months ago , but Panhel won't publish it for some reason. The Frat boys had their Spring 2008 grades up 3 months ago. Last year they were posted by June. I didn't realize Claudia had retired which now explains the problem I have noted in the office in the past months.

UGAMOMof4 08-18-2008 08:49 PM

Sorry to have been off so long, I know many of you have been looking for me. DD just texted to let me know that they are at the house and "already havin fun!" So glad to hear that! I'm not going to say where, but I think she's found a great spot!

I hope everyone's story is ending happily tonight!

Regarding some of the other earlier posts on recruitment, I think UGADad has a great point when he suggests that it occur later in the year. Many schools do this. Not only does it give the pnm's a better chance to get to know the sororities, but the sororities also get a chance to know more about the pnm's and see them in action...whether it be volunteering at a shelter or making the walk of shame from a fraternity house at 6:00am!

MerryGPhiB 08-18-2008 08:58 PM

Please tell us!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by UGAMOMof4 (Post 1700675)
Sorry to have been off so long, I know many of you have been looking for me. DD just texted to let me know that they are at the house and "already havin fun!" So glad to hear that! I'm not going to say where, but I think she's found a great spot!

I hope everyone's story is ending happily tonight!

Regarding some of the other earlier posts on recruitment, I think UGADad has a great point when he suggests that it occur later in the year. Many schools do this. Not only does it give the pnm's a better chance to get to know the sororities, but the sororities also get a chance to know more about the pnm's and see them in action...whether it be volunteering at a shelter or making the walk of shame from a fraternity house at 6:00am!

Where did she pledge????? You're killng me ( Please note: patience is not my strong suit!)

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 09:01 PM

I was looking for the grade report a few weeks ago and was surprised it wasn't up. While it has information that is good to know, I don't there was anything on there that was radically different from the last couple of semesters. I also can't imagine someone making a decision about which group to list on a bid card based on one semester's grade report. (which isn't to say that I wasn't looking for it).

Some campuses don't even post them at all, so I'm sure sure that UGA's greek life office was especially remiss. You might want to dial back your expectations for responsiveness or you are likely to be very unhappy dealing with UGA while you or your child are enrolled there. I love that school, but you have absolutely no hope of prevailing on staff to change the way they run it through multiple demanding emails. If you do hope to effect a change, you'll have a much better shot working from the inside serving on panhellenic than demanding from the outside.

I.C. a Pi Phi 08-18-2008 09:05 PM

Claudia's back... but they also have a new Panhellenic advisor they hired in Dec... Kat Gillen (?) I think she's a tri-sig which is one of the few sororities not at UGA.

GreekAlphaSoup 08-18-2008 09:08 PM

I agree with UGAMomof4....I, too, think recruitment should be later (and anything, really, could be better than ending with bids issued on the first day of class....duh....freshmen....huge campus....we started right off sending a message that greek was as (if not more) valuable than class what with all of the focus on the bid coming. Of course, I went right along with it all and didn't override that impression with my DD since I was just as wrapped up in waiting for the bid to come out, and how the first night at the house went for her. Classes? Who noticed classes?

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAMOMof4 (Post 1700675)

Regarding some of the other earlier posts on recruitment, I think UGADad has a great point when he suggests that it occur later in the year. Many schools do this. Not only does it give the pnm's a better chance to get to know the sororities, but the sororities also get a chance to know more about the pnm's and see them in action...whether it be volunteering at a shelter or making the walk of shame from a fraternity house at 6:00am!

But this change wouldn't come without costs. While the present system is imperfect, the number of girls participating would make running the process while classes were in session pretty challenging. The number of groups and parties mean the process would last a pretty long time because you could have fewer parties a day. While SEC recruitment is less frilly than it used to be, it's still expensive and very time consuming for the girls in the groups. I'm not sure that it would be less stressful for anyone to stretch it out.

Some campuses manage to do it, but if you talk to girls at Ole Miss, I'm not sure recruitment there is a bed of roses.

It's not that I'm particularly opposed to deferred recruitment, but UGA actually did a study and decided against it. Armchair quarterbacking recruitment is fun, but it's a little disrespectful to the people in the trenches to assume that you could do it better when most of us don't even know what goes into to doing it at all. (For the record, I have absolutely no official connection to recruitment at UGA other than writing a few recs.)

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekAlphaSoup (Post 1700688)
I agree with UGAMomof4....I, too, think recruitment should be later (and anything, really, could be better than ending with bids issued on the first day of class....duh....freshmen....huge campus....we started right off sending a message that greek was as (if not more) valuable than class what with all of the focus on the bid coming. Of course, I went right along with it all and didn't override that impression with my DD since I was just as wrapped up in waiting for the bid to come out, and how the first night at the house went for her. Classes? Who noticed classes?

Oddly, I think the decision to do bid day this way was actually an attempt to downplay recruitment. In the bad old days when recruitment was way before classes started, it was not unheard of for girls to decide to transfer after a bad rush.

Now, if you moved recruitment further into the semester, you don't have that problem, but you have a host of others.

shadden 08-18-2008 09:14 PM

It just seems like UGA is much less forthcoming with results than other comparable campuses like Auburn and Alabama. I am impressed by the fact that the post bid lists on bid day, and seem to maintain good stats over time.

Titchou 08-18-2008 09:15 PM

Someone earlier mentioned having it later like Ole Miss. Well, there it falls during mid terms. So, hmm, recruitment party or study for mid term??????? And besides, they only have 9 groups there which makes for fewer parties anyway and shorter days....but it is still tough to do it during school and over 2 weekends....

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shadden (Post 1700694)
It just seems like UGA is much less forthcoming with results than other comparable campuses like Auburn and Alabama. I am impressed by the fact that the post bid lists on bid day, and seem to maintain good stats over time.

Last year they did post the bid lists pretty promptly. I hoped it was part of a trend, but if they've moved back to the previous director, I'm not sure what that means.

And honestly, we're really only talking less forthcoming than two of the most open campuses in the country.

I.C. a Pi Phi 08-18-2008 09:20 PM

Stalker!
 
while its fun to have the lists published-- isn't that kinda of free info for the stalkers? {shudder}

estherjb 08-18-2008 09:21 PM

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who are the top 3 sororities at uga
The one you're in, the one you could have gotten in, and the one your mom was in. Duh.

UGAMOMof4 08-18-2008 09:22 PM

We were told at the parent meeting that bid day is on the first day of classes, because the school will not let the girls move into the dorms any earlier. It's just a timing thing. I know from my own daughter that having classes was a great distraction during the day. She told me that she even studied a little before going to the field.

UGAMOMof4 08-18-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by estherjb (Post 1700702)
The one you're in, the one you could have gotten in, and the one your mom was in. Duh.

You are absolutely right!

estherjb 08-18-2008 09:35 PM

Happily, my neighbor got her first choice. Congrats to Pi Phi for pledging her.

In other hometown news, all three sophomores got bids. That surprised and encouraged me.

On the other hand, one of the group was dropped on 6 party day. Very surprising as she had lots going for her.

alum 08-18-2008 09:45 PM

A friend of mine now has a Kite and Key family. Her UGa daughter just pledged Theta down in Athens. :)

OleMissGlitter 08-18-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 1700695)
Someone earlier mentioned having it later like Ole Miss. Well, there it falls during mid terms. So, hmm, recruitment party or study for mid term??????? And besides, they only have 9 groups there which makes for fewer parties anyway and shorter days....but it is still tough to do it during school and over 2 weekends....

We stay up late....just be/c we only have 9 NPC groups does not mean we aren't up late! When there are 9 NPC groups and about 900 new members there is lots of work to do to get the house ready and things like that... :) Oh and recruitment isn't always during Mid-terms. PNMs and actives learn how to take recruitment week in stride and it is all about time management and planning...but that's all I'll say since this thread is about UGA.

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAMOMof4 (Post 1700705)
We were told at the parent meeting that bid day is on the first day of classes, because the school will not let the girls move into the dorms any earlier. It's just a timing thing. I know from my own daughter that having classes was a great distraction during the day. She told me that she even studied a little before going to the field.

No doubt that's what they said at the meeting, but it seems a little implausible. I certainly could be wrong about what I said earlier though.

We're talking about backing it up one day so it's over before classes start? And they're saying that resident life is making the calls about when rush will be?

UGAMOMof4 08-18-2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1700731)
No doubt that's what they said at the meeting, but it seems a little implausible. I certainly could be wrong about what I said earlier though.

We're talking about backing it up on day so it's over before classes start? And there saying that resident life is making the calls about when rush will be?

Maybe you can't get a tuition refund once classes start! LOL!

UGAALUM 08-18-2008 10:39 PM

Be careful what you wish for about having recruitment later. When I was in school at UGA we were on the quarter system and class didn't start to about Sept. 15th and we could never have rush during the Jewish holidays (this was late 1970's). So rush would sometimes start about 2 days AFTER CLASSES BEGIN and you went to classes all day had rush parties at night then had selection sessions to 2 or 4 am in the morning and then have to go to class the next day. Needless to say by the time rush was over you were already a week behind in your classes (not good for the academics). Having said that I like the way UVA does it and have rush before Winter Semester begins that way the girls are adjusted to college life and campus and maybe make better decisions. I'm sure there are other ladies on here that remember these times at UGA because it is true at that time you were given cards that told you what houses you were invited back to and then you decided where to go ( no ranking then). I had forgotten until someone mentioned it, but the houses you decided to cut you could regret or regret with interest which meant if you were cut out of rush you were still interested in those houses.

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shadden (Post 1700694)
It just seems like UGA is much less forthcoming with results than other comparable campuses like Auburn and Alabama. I am impressed by the fact that the post bid lists on bid day, and seem to maintain good stats over time.

Alabama and Auburn are exceptions in publishing the bid lists and distributing them to newspapers. Most colleges and universities ignore this news - and it IS "news." A name and a hometown is hardly a lot of information. I'm very glad that they do this - the day they quit doing it, believe me, they'll hear about it!:p

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Originally Posted by UGAALUM (Post 1700758)
Be careful what you wish for about having recruitment later...

Have to agree...when you move recruitment - especially a massive one - to occur concurrently with classes, there's a lot of conflict. PNMs have to miss classes to go to parties...or vice versa. The longer you delay, the more vicious the tent talk and the more ridiculous the rumors. It's so much better to get it done and over with.

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Originally Posted by UGAMOMof4 (Post 1700742)
Maybe you can't get a tuition refund once classes start! LOL!

You're probably right! It's certainly not unheard of that girls leave school when they don't get their choice of sorority...stupid as that is.

AOEforme 08-18-2008 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 1700764)
You're probably right! It's certainly not unheard of that girls leave school when they don't get their choice of sorority...stupid as that is.

It's true: I have a friend who transferred schools three times until she got into Gamma Phi Beta.

UGAalum94 08-19-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme (Post 1700809)
It's true: I have a friend who transferred schools three times until she got into Gamma Phi Beta.

Well, they are an outstanding group. Woo Hoo Triad.

AOEforme 08-19-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1700813)
Well, they are an outstanding group. Woo Hoo Triad.

true, true.

It was funny because her mom was a KD and her sister a Chi O. She turned down a bid from one of the houses at one school and dropped out at a second school after Gamma Phi had dropped her, even though she had both Chi O and KD left.

She knew what she wanted though...

DGAdDawg 08-19-2008 09:54 AM

http://media.www.redandblack.com/med...-3399968.shtml

This article from The Red and Black has a video of Bid Day....as you can see, the new pledges aren't the only ones excited for Bid Day!

ausguals 08-19-2008 10:15 AM

holler @ the picture of the delta gamma girls :) its the largest picture on the actual paper!

srmom 08-19-2008 10:37 AM

Just got word that of the three girls from my high school who are new Dawgs, two pledged Chi Omega, and one pledged Pi Phi!!

GPhiBLtColonel 08-19-2008 11:11 AM

:):p Just found out that one of the girls from our local high school who I wrote a rec for pledged Gamma Phi Beta - YAY!! - as did another girl I did a rec for from Evans HS (she'd already made the cheerleading squad at UGA before she even started her freshman year at UGA?) Yay!!


:D

GPhiBLtColonel 08-19-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DGAdDawg (Post 1700952)
http://media.www.redandblack.com/med...-3399968.shtml

This article from The Red and Black has a video of Bid Day....as you can see, the new pledges aren't the only ones excited for Bid Day!

OMG! Of course I love the photo of the front page and the video - yay! GAMMA PHI BETA!!!

:D

Football Fan 08-19-2008 11:48 AM

Another result from UGA
 
An advisor from our UGA chapter just told me Tri Delta took quota of 58 plus 4 for a total of 62. She was very excited about the new members.

OnTheBanks 08-19-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme (Post 1700809)
It's true: I have a friend who transferred schools three times until she got into Gamma Phi Beta.

That is some serious devotion! Wow! When did this happen if you don't mind my asking? Sorry, I've just never heard of someone transferring schools *multiple times* for the sole intention of joining a particular sorority. Not that Gamma Phi isn't worth it :p


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