There was a narc at my high school around 1979. It caused quite a stir once it was found out. I was still in junior high but my brother was there and the students had a walk out to protest.. it was a Very Big Deal. I can see them blending far more easily in college.

I imagine that, if there were only a few members in each chapter, those members may be suspended and the chapters will be watched like hawks for a while, just as they have been in Colorado, especially if those involved weren't in the house. I've been under the impression that the DEA uses these kinds of busts to get to the higher level suppliers so they may get some of these kids to turn and receive lesser charges.

Besides Theta Chi, the other suspended fraternities are Lambda Chi Alpha, Phi Kappa Psi, Phi Kappa Theta, Sigma Alpha Epsilon and Sigma Alpha Mu.

• Story Highlights
• 96 people, including 75 students, arrested in San Diego drug sweep
• Police say some fraternity members openly dealt drugs, text-messaged customers
• 2 kilograms of cocaine, Ecstasy, marijuana, meth, guns seized in raids
• One arrested student was about to get degree in criminal justice

Just got a e-mail about this from ireport.com

IT really is a shame that this is going to be so tangled up in greek life. My thoughts go out to all those involved.

OK, why do people keep posting this? This is I think the 5th time it's been posted exactly. Don't post if you haven't read the thread. Of course, not that they'll read this message, either.

NEW Postings-:D
Feds easily infiltrated SDSU drugs culture

Six fraternities suspended, dozens held in alleged drug-dealing ring

SAN DIEGO - Undercover agents who posed as college students to bust more than 100 suspected drug dealers at San Diego State University never had to crack a book to gain acceptance on campus. All it took was cash.
The federal agents went to one or two parties but never actually went to class or lived in the dorms. Instead, they merely arranged meetings with suspected dealers and asked about buying cocaine, Ecstasy, methamphetamine, marijuana and other drugs, authorities said Wednesday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24510514/
Student group protests SDSU drug bust
SAN DIEGO – In protest of Tuesday's drug bust, members of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy on Wednesday held a mock graduation ceremony at San Diego State University for the 75 students arrested plus the two who died on campus.
They want the university to establish a “Good Samaritan” policy that would protect students from punishment when they call to report drug overdoses involving peers.

The small protest drew a couple dozen spectators.
Randy Hencken, outgoing president of the student organization, said SDSU should not have called in federal drug enforcement agents, or arrested so many students.
“Most of the people arrested were minor drug users,” he said. The drug busts will not prevent drug abuse on campus, said Hencken, who also said his organization supports the legalization of drugs.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...07protest.html

SDSU drug victim’s brother: Most parents ‘unaware’

‘One mistake cost her her life,’ says man whose sister’s death spurred probe

Nate Poliakoff, whose sister’s death of a drug overdose one year ago sparked the undercover investigation at San Diego State University that resulted in the arrests of 96 people Tuesday, said parents underestimate the availability and intensity of drugs on college campuses today.
“I think parents are unaware of the severity of the drug problem,” Poliakoff told TODAY’s Matt Lauer Wednesday from Poway, Calif. “They may be comparing it back to when they were in school, when marijuana may have been the big, prevalent drug. People can experiment with that and it’s not going to cost you your life. It’s not as intense as cocaine, Ecstasy, OxyContin — things of that sort — so I think there’s a substantial difference in the drugs being used.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24500025/

Busted Student to Dad: 'Sorry I Screwed Up So Bad'


Arrested San Diego Student Apologizes to His Family; They Tell Him It's Too Late

"I'm sorry I screwed up so bad" were the shameful words of one of the arrested San Diego State University (SDSU) students to his stunned and saddened family.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/st...4806777&page=1

DA: 3rd Student OD'd During SDSU Drug Probe
SAN DIEGO -- New details are being revealed by prosecutors about the investigation that has now resulted in 101 arrests.
Deputy District Attorney Damon Mosler said Wednesday that a student at an San Diego State University fraternity was shot with a Taser gun and brought to the hospital after a drug overdose in April.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/16192684/detail.html

http://www.fox6.com/mostpopular/stor...8-7520e4d9f5e5

Wow!!! I just drove by State 2 weeks ago... And I had this bizarre passing thought that State's history will be changed... I wrote it off...

Well, unfortunately it looks like it had to happen... Same thing happened to my HS in San Diego. The Narc had COPIOUS notes... Dudes who sold to the Narc were dumbasses. That happened in 1984.

I think you misread my comment. I was not referring to my sorority but what one of my sisters was told by a member of another sorority.

That kind of stuff definitely didn't occur in my GLO and I couldn't believe that the girl from the other sorority would so casually mention it like that!

Two things that have made me say WHAAAAA?!:

- They used Cox Arena as a place to put all the people arrested... which is where all the graduations are going to take place in the coming weeks. You think they could have found a different place to do it, hahaha.

- The URL for the page with updates on the investigation is simply sdsu.edu/information. Not sdsu.edu/police/druginformation, nope, just INFORMATION.

Also on that page:

..........

Lastly I am watching the local news and they said one of the students sold Ecstasy to an undercover agent right inside one of the school-operated restaurants at the dorms. Smart one!

So, I scanned eight pages of "mug shots" and noticed that one of the young men who got arrested looked familiar. I realized this evening that I have, in fact, worked with him before. :(

.....Kelly :(

My question is that if some of the 6 fraternities that are on temporary probation are not proved guilty, how are they to return to regular operations without scrutiny?

Also, I question the point in which it turns to an individual issue, not chapter-wide.

I noticed, through several posts, that approx. 75 were arrested. IF its only a one or two per people from a certain chapter, how would the school handle the chapter?

At any rate, I'm sure the drug problem there is much bigger that what it appears even after the bust.

From the msn story above:
"At least 75 people arrested during the five-month sting were San Diego State students, and 13 of them were from seven fraternities. All together, there were 128 arrests, 61 on Tuesday. Theta Chi had the highest number of students arrested, with five."
Theta Chi is the chapter that the offices "bang on" during the press conferences IIRC.

Not being bias lol, but below is a statement from SAE Nationals:


Statement on Chapter at San Diego State

EVANSTON, IL – Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s national headquarters has been monitoring the situation that took place on San Diego State University’s campus, as the organization was one of six fraternities suspended by university officials.

As a result of its investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency provided names of three students to the university who were allegedly members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon. However, two of the men are not members. They are former pledges who broke their affiliation with SAE previous to this incident.

The third student, an active member, was interviewed by police for an unrelated matter prior to this incident. They released him without charges. In fact, no charges have been filed against any of Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s members. Law-enforcement officials did not search the Sigma Alpha Epsilon house.

A group of alumni advisers are working with chapter members to ensure operations remain in compliance with national guidelines. And both undergraduate and alumni members will continue to cooperate with both university and law-enforcement officials.


At any rate, bad publicity never leaves you.

Like this kind of thing isn't going on across just about every campus in the nation. Greeks, Sports Teams, Student Clubs, etc.

Unless you are completely obvious to your surroundings, we all know who is doing/selling drugs.

Thanks for the up-date Brother. I had been looking forward to a statement as well.

This seems to show a rather wide, shot-gun/net that both LO and school threw out.
Not necessarily a bad thing. However, just as you pointed out, the publicity will linger and I do not have a good feeling about any of this showing up on the front pages.:(
Hope to run into you on SAE's GC sometime. PDA???;)

In the words of Real World LA Tami...

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY!

http://advancement.sdsu.edu/marcomm/information/

The school is claiming only 33 of the the original 96 are students.

Front page of campus newspaper:
http://www.thedailyaztec.com/

Cartel connection uncovered in SDSU bust
http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/m...-3366789.shtml

There are like 30,000 students at SDSU and:

"To date, 33 students have been arrested; each of those students has been suspended. We believe we have arrested the majority of those involved."

..... they have got to be kidding, hahaha.

They're obviously not kidding.

Please remember not to post any rumors here. Just the facts.

Let's be honest here, do you really think at a "party" school like SDSU (or any large school for that matter), only 33 out of several tens of thousands of students are doing or dealing drugs? There's no way. I mean its definitely commendable but IMO they will never solve the drug problem.

I think you really should just keep your mouth shut. Please see Kevin's post about not posting rumors.

Srsly.

Found this rather interesting blog on this matter.
Seems to be all GLO's on this:
http://understandmyteen.com/blog/san...out-frats.html

What the hell? You all are WAY too quick to jump on people. How is that a rumor? Let's think statistically. Take ANY group of 30,000 young people and I will guarantee you that more than .001% of them are dealing or doing drugs.

Talk about taking things out of context.
Without looking up the speaker, I would say that they were directly referring to this matter, this case, this operation.
And nothing else.

The Union-Tribune posted an op-ed article today about the whole debacle that is pretty sensationalist/anti-Greek:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...c8jenkins.html

Why are you being hysterical about this? You are stereotyping people and stereotypes are dangerous. I believe your smugness masks an issue with drugs you're not dealing with.

OMG I swear you people will argue/freak out about anything.

My point = SDSU shouldn't start acting like they've completely eliminated the problem by running this operation. Obviously its commendable and good that they arrested this amount of people but the problem is so much bigger, not only at the school but in the entire city.

Who were the others? Random townies? Alums? People from other schools?

^^^Care to fix your violation of GC TOS and copy-write laws?
Link and a few lines are all that is needed.

Perhaps you should have posted this first;)
I do agree with this posting.

WOW, you could have just told me not to post the whole article.

Some of you guys are batshit crazy. Wouldn't it be nice to have a discussion without nitpicking every little thing and being completely snarky for no reason?

I'm over this, I don't argue on online forums about miniscule details. Peace out.

Feel free to cite your source and maybe I'll consider believing you. Like OMG.

I really hope you mean it this time. :)

I was trying to be diplomatic.

I think accuracy is important, but it's also important to understand that there are people who monitor these boards and a rumor, especially in a situation like this could potentially cause harm to someone down the road.

I also have to say that I find the dismissive attitude regarding these charges to be a little disturbing. Whatever you think about the wisdom of our drug laws or whether they're possible to enforce, members of greek organizations have been arrested in connection with selling drugs.

Had there been an overdose in a house or a shooting or something of that nature, bad things could happen to the entire organization, not to mention the SDSU greek community.

Be smart -- think a little beyond 'kids will be kids' and realize that sometimes actions have consequences.

Sometimes, the internet is serious business.

Hard to let you know when you do not take PM's:(
And you, and others here, should know by now about TOS and copy write laws.
I am sorry that I somehow hurt you:o

For what it's worth, I see what you are saying and I totally agree with you. I don't think you were being dismissive about the situation either. I also wouldn't call what you were doing "spreading rumors". Everyone who is jumping down her throat about that.......come off it and shut up.

Some of you assholes in this thread need to lighten the fuck up and stop attacking people.

What they did at the school was commendable, but to talk about this like it was some triumph against the sale and use of drugs, especially blow and weed is ridiculously laughable.

Hush, chile! Don't you know that's worse than saying Beetlejuice or Candyman????

Again, I agree. I'm not so sure about actually dealing drugs, but I will easily agree that if you continuously took 30,000 college age students at random and figured out how many of them casually do drugs it would be way higher than a thousandth of a percent of the group. There is no question about it.

I would almost guarantee that 1 out of every 5 or so of them smokes pot. I learned that statistic in a class actually........1 out of every 5-7 Americans smokes marijuana. I don't have the book that the statistic came from..........nor am I going to go digging through my stuff and the internet to find it, so tough.....if you choose not to believe anything without a "source" to back it up then I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think anyone is metaphorically high-fiving the drug task force. Rather, they're saying it might be a good plan for a student at the university to quit saying how amazingly drug-riddled it is.

Why should she stop being real about the situation?