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Flashback... I completely forgot about this until I saw the video at the gym today.
We changed the words to Karma Chameleon from "Red, Gold and Green" to "Red, Buff and Greeen" |
The drinking age was 19 . . .
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ummm....18.
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19 when I was an undergrad in Texas.
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It changed to 21 from 19 in the early 80s in Texas.
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There was a drinking age?
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And yes, LB would drop by and check ID's. Fines would be issued to both the bar as well as you. At the time age was 18/19 where I lived while 21 in WA. |
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21 here always, but you could go across the border to Ohio or WV & get grandfathered in. We found pictures in our scrapbooks from the 70's of formals that had been in New York State and didn't get it...until we thought about it. "Oh. Lower drinking age. Duh." |
I rushed in '82...
Real candles, dresses below the knee and heels for chapter, sweetheart ceremonies, phone duty, pledge notebooks, toga parties little sisters and big brothers... We had the dance from Come On, Eileen (Dexy's Midnight Runners) down and the song played at every mixer. Lining up on fraternity row during Hell Week like we were waiting for a parade - just to see whose house would be the loudest. Steak and eggs at the diner at 4 am before heading home after the fraternity parties. Throwing white roses out of the windows to the fraternity men serenading us. Touch football in the suite. Christmas cocktail parties with real cocktails. And one thing I remember most about fraternity Hell Week because we all felt so bad for the Kappas - their house was at the end of frat row - drunk pledges heading to the Kappa house at 3 in the morning singing at the top of their lungs (and one or two always ended up peeing on the lawn - ew!). Totally off key and half of the words forgotten. I later learned that most of the girls spent the week elsewhere and only those that volunteered to "hold down the fort" stayed behind. |
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I remember when Texas went from 18 to 19 - it happened the day before I turned 18. The bastards...
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It was that or pull out my DL, 3 CC's in my own name and everything else I had in my wallet to prove I was 21. IIRC the only photo ID's I had were my PADI/NAUI certs. |
More 78 - early 80's
I forgot - we had Big Brothers at our house, which was a big deal. We pledges had to go get the rushee and escort him to and from the rush parties. Ironically enough, I ended up having my husband as my rushee - even though I didn't start dating him until 4 years later!
All of our songs during RUSH (not recruitement) were based on old show songs - the kind of songs you hear as elevator music....like Girl of AOII, You'll Be One Forever...sometimes I'll hear one of those oldies and think of the AOII words....my favorite was "Remember" - and my Theta mom and sis knew the Theta version so we would sing it at the same time...and everyone sang a version of "Pass It On" when you were doing something super serious, or passing a candle around. We had a slide show that was a big deal - the sisterhood songs were "Thank You For Being A Friend", "All My Sisters" (a song by Anne Murray, I think) Friends " (Elton John) and one other that I don't remember. I found the Anne Murray song one day on Rhapsody --- wow, that brought back memories! We did have phones on the wall in our rooms. Long cords. So your bed was close to the wall so you could answer the phone in the middle of the night. REO Speedwagon was big, and Journey. Everyone else liked Air Supply but I hated them. Yuck! |
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I've been reading a lot of responses, and I'm a little curious.... do most sorority chapter use fake candles for ceromonies now? My chapter still uses real candles for initiation, ritual and candle passing. Thankfully we've never had a problem with it.
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I have seen both. One in a house association house, used real candles. The other, in a school-owned room used fake (required by the university). They were different chapters.
Note, the one that used fake, used real ones last year. But, another sorority used real ones and dropped wax on the carpet. After that, the school banned use of real candles in their facilities. |
Officially, we now use battery-operated candles only. Makes no difference if the property is owned by a house corp or a college.
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The way I always understood it (and what my friends who went over the border to Ohio told me) was...if you had turned 18 in a year when the drinking age was still 18 there, you were allowed to drink. It had nothing to do with what state you personally were from. I have no idea what they did in Washington. Since I believe Benzgirl is talking about Ohio that's why I didn't understand why her friend had this issue. |
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I can only go by what happened to me. I have never experienced nor heard of being "grandfathered" in the case of liquor laws. Come to think of it now, I was most likely breaking a few laws by transporting bottles to school.:o |
The good old days of the past....
- Around the World parties (I hated Mexico. Damn tequila). - Pledge Sneaks. - Little Sisters. - Scavenger Hunts. - Working the beer trough during house parties. - House vs. House snowball fights. - Family Drinks. |
Family drinks?
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Yeah. My family's drink was Rattlesnake shots (equal parts Southern Comfort, Cherry Brandy, Sweet and Sour).
I remember being a pledge and drinking them with my pledge pop, and his pledge pop. Long long time ago. |
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Didn't matter to me - I was 10. |
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You were probably close to my time at FSU. I preffed Zeta, by the way. 67-71. Rush was VERY formal, there were 18 houses and ice waters took two days. It seems like rush took almost two weeks. The fraternities would cruise the streets checking out the rushees. KA's rented a huge flatbed truck with hay and a keg and drove around yelling out stuff to the rushees. These are the senior executives and attorneys and judges of today. Who woulda thunk they'd even graduate? Dinner at 5:30 sit down, family style, sing the blessing before and after the meal, bus boys, Mom is escorted out before the ladies were allowed to leave. Announcements, calling on pledges to recite the greek alphabet, fraternity boys coming by to tap girls for little sisters, honoraries coming by during dinner to tap new members, announcing a candlelight in the living room, singing around the anchor. Monday night was chapter night all over campus. And yes, Ken's was a fun place. The Derby I snagged in 1969 hung over the bar for almost 30 years and my husband and I are forever memorialized with our names still written on the wall. Fraternity weekends at Panama City. Pledge pins with your colors on a little bow on top. Group seating at football games where we wore dresses and the guys wore coats and ties. Girls purses were the perfect place to hide the Jack Daniels and Southern Comfort. I could go on and on. |
Ah....happy days!;)
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70-74 at Mizzou
As others have said, rush had frills. Sidewalk songs were big with the actives "singing the rushees in." Frat guys also lined the sidewalks checking out the rushees. Monday night was "formal dinner." Pledge came to the house for 5 p.m. pledge meeting; then dinner (cloth tablecloths); 6:30 was chapter meeting. Everyone did it that way. The chapter room was a mysterious place that the pledges did not go in. (What a letdown to find out it was only a big room.) 1970 was the year that the pantsuit hit the fashion world and jeans became acceptable for everydaywear. Polyester doubleknit was the miracle fabric--no wrinkle, wore like iron. In 1970 we defined when it was okay to wear pants ("as part of an outfit"). By 1974 we asked members to wear bras and to not smoke marijuana in the house. The house was locked at 11 p.m. on weekdays, midnight on Saturdays. Dorms had similar hours. Men were allowed upstairs only on very special occasions. (Coed dorms began in the 70's.) You could get a phone in your room if you wanted to pay for it. Otherwise you used the phone in the hall. We changed rooms 3 times a year. If you had a phone you could stay in the same room twice in a row. Coors beer was distributed only to the Kansas/Missouri line. People who went home to KC or to KU for the weekend brought Coors back. Columbia had only one Mexican restaurant (Connie's El Sombrero), though there was a Taco Bell on Providence. The 18th Amendment and Harpo's were the big bars. We found out that the bar at the Tiger Hotel didn't card and was much quieter (more grownup).....Bagels were a novelty, unavailable in Columbia. One of my chapter sisters would bring back a bag from a deli in St. Louis. Streaking was the big news of 1974! You'd be walking to class and a guy would run past you wearing only sneakers and a stocking cap. |
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oh there will be :) and i'll start it. you're gonna have to give me a few more years to get out of college and start making money etc.. etc.. But here are the details. Alpha Zeta Nursing Home Helping Greeks reminisce about the old days. and the requirements to get in..... a) a scavenger hunt b) a chugging contest c) there shall be a pledge period and initiation d) and anything else yall would like to add :D |
I can smell the paint pens just reading this thread! All my friends on my floor would bring me stuff to paint their letters on, which was good since I had already put KKG on everything I could find. I got really good at drawing Theta kites.
We received pref gifts that we took with us, and the ADPis bid cards were done in counted cross stitch. The sisters on that committee worked on them all summer long. Formal chapter meetings were a sea of Laura Ashley dresses. Our pref dresses were navy taffeta for two years, then changed to our choice of white with light blue or dark blue chintz sashes. Did anyone else find out who their big sister was with a scavenger hunt? Or get taken out for a pledge kidnap breakfast? |
Ah, lets go back to the 60-70's!:)
Much more formal as far as dress went on Campus!:) Dress was semi formal for guys, coats and ties for meetings. Meeting days were every Tuesday night and we wore appropriate attire on campus and meetings. Let the Campus know who we were! Weekends, oh well, look out as that was fun time!:D But, letters were worn on T-Shirts once again to let them know who were are/were! Now!:mad: They wear beer, or shoes, GAP, Old Navy shirts! That really promotes GLOs!:rolleyes: |
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I live in Ohio, but was in Texas when it was 18. Cousin lived in Texas and was not Grandfathered when the legal age changed. However, Ohio at the time was an 18 state for 3.2 Beer (tasted awful) and 21 for everything else. Since then, everything went 21 in both states. |
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We went to Mcdonalds for everything, especially large Cokes and Fries when they were doing the Monopoly game. And then there were those that did dumpster diving.....yuck! but they would come back with bags of still warm food that was thrown in the dumpster at the end of the shift. |
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Of course, I was in high school when they were doing this, it was all 21 by the time I was in college. |
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Ohhhh....those were the days (before I burned out my brain cells) |
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The university ID's had pictures, but drivers licenses and draft cards didn't. Heck, I had a fake ID in high school in Ohio. Didn't matter much, though, except in the bars. In those days the older brothers would buy pretty much anything you wanted. And, yes, as I recall, when the drinking age was changed to twenty-one, those between eighteen at twenty-one were grandfathered. I was twenty-one by then, so I really didn't care. |
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