UT as in Texas or Tennessee?

I think our greek system is one of the strongest in the country. I don't know much at Tennessee, never had any friends go there...........which is actually kind of odd now that I think about it. I can think of people I know at every school in the SEC.......except Tenn.

I'm a grad student at Texas. I can't see why Greek Life would matter in making a grad school decision. :confused: I've seen people mention this before, and if you choose a grad school based on Greek Life, you're probably making a poor decision. To me, it's completely irrelevant. I guess you might consider alum activities in the region, but even still, with grad school you should just generally go to the best school you are accepted to.

Or the best school you get accepted to and can afford.

I could see Greek Life playing a part in grad school for some people, like if they want to advise a chapter of their GLO, or be an advisor for their Greek council or for the Greek Life office. Then again, you can still do those things if you go to a grad school with no Greek Life, or a grad school without a chapter of your GLO, as long as there is one close by.

lol its by no means making the decision, just Texas has a strong business program for big Southern Schools

just curious

i meant Texas, i hate tennessee with a passion <--- Bulldawg fan :p

Greek Life at Texas rocks. The only fault I could find with it back in my day was that the houses tended to be more territorial about socials and the like. At Georgia and Auburn, plus a couple of other common road trip stops, parties tended to be bigger and more open. At Texas they are fairly closed- due in large part I think to costs and various noise/crowd restrictions which are pretty tightly enforced.

When I was going to Georgia, my girlfriend and I were regularly invited to mixers for other GLOs. But at Texas not so much.

I got my MBA at UT- went right into the program after undergrad and actually still lived in the house my first semester (not the best idea, but fun.) PM me if you ever want more info on the program here. It is first rate and if you want to stay and work in Texas- the Texas MBA is what you want for networking and to make a very strong statement about who you are.

dang sounds like we got the same game plan here, i wanted to do undergrad business at UGA or South Carolina, wherever i end up staying at. and then goin to Texas for MBA, and then possibly Vanderbilt or UVA for law school... lol i'm all over the place i know.

But i was thinking highly about doing FIJI at UGA as i got 2 good friends in it, and i hear they are legendary at Texas. I know it doesnt matter as i stated before as ur undergrad is what really matters, but i still think it would be cool.

I'll get back at ya down the road and keep in touch, thanks for the advice and offer!

Still pretty restricted. You need to know people or be on a list generally....unless you're a female.

Some of the finest men I have ever met. Excellent, excellent house.

now are these the kind of guys that party hard and also are upstanding members of the college community, or the type that know they are in the best fraternity on campus and are just drugged out and arrogant.

I mean no disrespect, but i definately ran into both types of "top tier" houses, you know what i mean.

Drugs are present in fraternities to the same extent they are present in the general population- being a user or non-user in and of itself should not inform your decision for the most part. At Georgia there are some houses known for marijuana use- which I find rather low class- but aside from avoiding houses like that where most people are pot smokers, I would not get too worried about the drug question.

FIJI is a top house at both Georgia and Texas and it would be greatly to your credit to be a member if that is your destiny.

Party hard.......upstanding members of the college community.

There's going to be some drugged out types in every house though. It is unavoidable....it's just a matter of how many.....which in their case is slim to none.

well i almost expect marijuana to be present either in the open or behind closed door in any fraternity these days, really just the way it is. But you would be surprised at how openly cocaine is present these days.

I don't like to associate with something known for being a "coke fraternity". Because i def know of a couple of those types on dif campuses

100% best statement on the matter I have seen. It is true to my experience at W&L at least.

Same goes for Brown. I would say that at the fraternity level, marijuana was pretty standard. Coke was becoming pretty standard back in '03, so I can't imagine what it's like now.

exactly, it seems to me the more "presitge" a fraternity has for being a member of it or the more popular it is with the girls, the more harder drugs like acid and coke and all types of pills are present. I don't know why the two would be linked at all, but thats really how it is these days. Theres def a trend at USC, and so i hear at UGA or Bama.

So when you said KA, SAE, and EN were top in the south, why didn't Fiji/ Phi Gam get a mention? We're bottom tier at UF and USC. Top at UGA, UTenn, UTexas, Bama, Auburn and middle everywhere else. SAE is bottom tier here and EN is near the bottom of the middle.

Fiji doesn't get alot of respect because it's not a Southern fraternity, honestly. KA, EN, and SAE are. And I'd throw in Phi Delt even though they're not southern. Though, I'm not terribly sure about them being top at Auburn. And at Bama, they're old row but i'm told they take too many legacies.

Coke is back.....that's for sure.

PhiGam, who are you quoting that said the above?

Helluva drug

hahah. F yo couch.

exalt to you.

This amazes me. Has the price gone down that much?

It's cheap here....but that's just location.

30$ a gram for the high society. Varies regionally though.

For the people I know who did coke in college, price was no object. Actually that would be an understatement.

The thing about coke use in (and agreed that "top" fraternities are more likely to do certain drugs than others) is that it's not always that apparent to people from the outside that such activities are going on. They can be very well covered up from freshmen and even sophomores in some case. I was surprised to discover this when I hit sophomore/junior year of college and everyone moved off campus. Although when I was in college the "coke" fraternity didn't really appear to suffer much in reputation. Not sure that will last though. A former "top" fraternity became very involved in pill/drug use (as well as multiple other issues, but drug use was the start) and went completely down the gutter--just in my 4 years at W&L. It started with coke, branched to pills, and then just went haywire. The first group I mentioned was only really known for some moderate coke use, and it was the top and remained so all my 4 years though. So I dunno.

Not in Fayetteville.

Not that it matters all that much, but 60-80 for a gram is normal here.

Back home, another story...30-40 a gram...

it's back in full swing in the fraternity houses.

It is very interesting that a discussion of tiers in the SEC has turned into tiers of drug users and addicts.

Society ranks users and addicts like that, too.

But I don't. They're all low level human beings (ok, that's kinda harsh, but still...) with a problem. Regardless of how much they spent for their habit, who they are, and what they do.

I actually agree with you there. Drugs = disgusting. Just recognizing the reality of public perception even though it's completely ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, this makes me sad.

Hey, my powder cocaine addiction trumps your crack cocaine addiction. That means I'm wealthierererer and coolerererer than you.

You poor PCP-laced crack addicts who can't afford more than a public defender.

God forbid any of our high end fraternities see the likes of you! And, get this, no one would ever GUESS that WE'RE the drug addicts. But you all sooooo look and live like drug addicts. Ha!

We posted a couple responses stating what the prices were for some blow......because someone asked.

I could tell you how much just about every drug costs down here.........doesn't mean I do them all ;)

Why?

Does it make you sad when people drink?

Uh...go away...your posts were "interesting," too, but I wasn't talking about your price analysis.


;)

You're confusing which posts I'm talking about. But that's okay because the point I'm making is not up for debate. ;)

Says the girl in the fraternity thread. Although given your amount of replies in these threads, I question your sex as well. Is DST a fraternity?

I applaud you on your effort of moralizing and hijacking thread. Although it's pretty typical from you. The cocaine had to do with SEC Greek life, your moralizing, class obsession, and otherwise did not.

Please leave.

Depending on the circumstances, it might.

But you don't really put drinking on par with cocaine (or other drug) use, do you?

Fixed that for you.

What next? ;)

Oh yeah, I was teasing macallan as I sometimes do so I edited my post to reflect that. Put your cape away, k?

Alcohol abuse is on par with drug abuse. Alcohol possession and use was only on par with drug possession and use in the 1920s prohibition movement.

Every fraternity has pot smokers, but when I was an active- and to this day- it is not tolerated in our house. You just can't have that.

Cocaine was not really a big thing when I was in college, but seems to be moreso now.

I have never cared for hard drugs, nor even tried any of them. So I am sure things go on that I never knew about. But even then, back in my time I think hard drug use was not a major staple of any fraternity's existence. Sure I knew some, but it seems much more common now.

I could care less if people want to use them discreetly or away from my living space- but with the benefit of age and experience I have known too many "fratstars" who thought they could quit when they graduated or at least keep it under control, and were proven fatally wrong. Even if one survives it, a coke habit and all the trappings that come with it can blow through even a pretty good sized trust fund in a hurry.

I understand abuse is abuse. But I'm talking about even just recreational use here. Macallan seemed to imply that I should get as upset about someone drinking as I would about someone doing cocaine (again, I assume we're talking "recreationally").

ETA: This post was in response to DSTChaos, but I want to note that I also very much agree with EE-BO's last paragraph -- this is what my base concern is.