We all wish it, but she won't. Or at least if she did, she wouldn't stay long. She can't stand to be without the photographers and her entourage

I hope she gets the helps she needs. It's just sad... no more words left to describe her.

shall we start taking bets now?

I, for some reason have TMZ (train wreck TV) and it's like the umpteenth time that Brittanywatch is the top story



Ok


Let's do this:


All those who say she is gonna die....pick a date and a method





All those who say she's going to end up in rehab...ditto





I got:

1. Death by OD by April

2. Death by Car wreck by mid march

3. Death by suicide before Feb 14th

4. Death by 'mysterious causes' on April 15

5. still working on that one

The report I heard was that she hadn't slept since Saturday. Makes me think she's in a manic phase of bipolar disorder. I hope she gets and accepts some help this time.

They reported that she has been diagnosed as bi-polar and the meds were not working. I'm not convinced she took the meds regularly enough to get them to work

I do feel really bad for her, because obviously I think everyone just wants her to get some freakin help already.....


=but= at the same time am I the only one who feels like it's such a freaking waste of LA's resources by constantly having the police by her house, or escorting her places, or whatever? Seriously. Don't they have more significant crimes to be fighting or something?

I hope she doesn't do anything bad to herself, but she needs to want to get the help she needs to get better.... obviously loosing her kids has not made her hit that "rock bottom".

No. I think our resources could be better used by fighting drug dealers, better educating our students and ensuring all children have appropriate health care. IMHO, it's such a waste of money to escort her everywhere and, my God, protect the air space above her ambulance. She should pick up the tab, not the taxpayers.

By now, there is no excuse for her NOT to be under mandatory psychiatric detainment, but I don't know California's laws about that. It's not fun to 302 or whatever someone, but it really does need to be done.

The very best thing that could happen to Britney would be for her to check into the psycho ward of Betty Ford or wherever, and disappear for at least six months or a year, then take the time to learn who her children really are as people, not possessions, and if does she really want to be a celebrity. Then, if she did, go ever so quietly into a studio, and make a surprise splash in about two years.

And if she doesn't get that psychiatric help, then she's a ticking time bomb. I would so hate to have my every move photographed, I can't help but feel pity for her. Yet, t*p makes an excellent point, and maybe the Crisis Services of LA County need to reconsider how they're going to handle Britney's continued pleas for help.

^Reportedly Shar Jackson has said that Brit's kids don't even really realize she's not around. They're surrounded by Kevin and Shar's kids and all the family members. She says they ask for her but they don't truly understand that she's out of the picture for now. Since they're only 1 and 2 I kind of believe that.

Although they can't consciously express their feelings at those ages, they are also the ages where their relationship with their mother is most likely to affect them psychologically long term. It's much harder to work through very early trauma because there is no real memory of it. The mother-child bond at those ages is really important. I hope they will seek some professional advice for the kids too. It's easier when they are older and you can explain that mommy is sick and can't see them right now. Their whole sense of security is shaken right now and I wouldn't be surprised if they started to show some signs of separation anxiety.

With the exception of the helicopters, it's not unusual for the mentally ill to have a police escort to the hospital rather than an ambulance. When I worked with adults, more patients were brought to ER for evaluation by police than by anybody else. They are best equpped to deal with someone who is resisting. And, for some, it happened 8 or 9 times a year. It's hard to meet the criteria of "danger to self or others". The loophole criteria has to do with the inability to care for ones self. If she wasn't outright suicidal or agressive, not sleeping for 5 days could probably fall under the last criteria. Severe bipolar can be very hard to manage and frequent blood tests and medication adjustments can be necessary. Those who are determined to manage it (Patty Duke comes to mind) can do well, but it's work. It's more than just taking their meds. They need to get her stable enough that she can learn about the disease and become motivated to keep it under control. Perhaps, since she has money, they can keep her longer the than the norm, but for the average joe, insurance only pays for 3-5 days.. just long enough for the meds to kick in, not long enough to really work with someone on how to manage their disease. So frustrating for the people who work in that field and a serious flaw in our system. The push to de-institutionalize went way too far. While it's anecdotal evidence and I don't have research data to prove it, when I started in the field and adults could stay for 6 weeks and had trial home visits as part of the stay, they didn't return to the hospital several times a year as they did when it went down to less than a week.

The AP story I read says 40-100 people are committed against their will in Los Angeles County alone - per day.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20080...usic_spears_20

She had both. From what I could see (on the news) it looked like 6 motorcycled cops in front and 6 behind the ambulance.

I tell myself to log into TMZ.com only once a day now because I'm so sick of the Britney coverage.

Lots of legal stuff happened today -- Brit's manager was issued a restraining order by a judge to stay away from Brit and now her dad's acting as conservator of her estate. Apparently Britney went apeshit when she found out that her parents now have control over not only her finances...but her as well.

FINALLY!

It's about time her parents took control. Geez Louise, how much more could happen to the "child".

Yes, I know she brought a lot on herself but goodness gracious media jerks, go take a nap and come back in 2 months!

On a different yet related note, there was an interesting commentary in the paper the other day about the hypocrisy of slamming Jamie Lynn for her pregnancy but loving the Juno movie..

I hope they opt to go for the 14-day hold; 72 hours will not do it for her at this point.

Wait, when did her parents get control over her? That's very unusual and I'd think unlikely.

Her father has temporary control over her personal affairs, her psychiatrist has control over her medical treatment (and hopefully will keep her hospitalized longer). http://www.people.com/people/article...175797,00.html

Thanks I was just confused as it made it seem like her father/parents had actual control over HER and not just her estate, etc.

Apparently she is in the 14 day hold.

Could it really be that Sam Lutfi drugged Brit and made her this way? TMZ seems to think so.

Mama Lynne's declaration is :eek: !!!

Yeah, that declaration is somewhere beyond horrifying.

When I read it, it reminded me of the whole Anna Nicole situation and how Howard Stern allegely (sp) kept her drugged up (especially between the time of Daniel's death and her death--can't believe it's been a year already). I honesty believe that Britney needs to get away from all of them.

*Slight hijack*
Read Blonde Ambition by Rita Cosby. Good book on the Anna Nicole case.
*end hijack*

Oh, see, this isn't good news, she was released early again.

Is it too late to get in that pool you were starting, Daemon?

Britney's a grown woman. Next...

No sooner than she is out but she is already back to her old tricks...Daemon, can I get in on this pool also? It won't be long before she follows Anna Nicole Smith... :rolleyes:

I saw on Showbiz Tonight the allegations that Lynne made about Britney's manager, Sam Lufti. She said that Sam had called Britney a whore and and an unfit mother. Also, Sam had crushed pills and put them in Britney's foods and drinks. He even had hid her dog and stated to Lynne that when Britney dies, he will relieve himself on her grave.

Guys, this is sad. I'm glad that there is a restraining order against Sam. Because God knows what would have happened to Britney if she would be with Sam for one more minute.

As far as being released early, I don't agree with that decision.

Somehow, I have to think that if Britney wants to talk to Sam, she is going to talk to him. It wasn't even a few hours before she was back with Adnan. I am not sure who to trust in this situation. It seems like her parents are genuinely concerned about her well-being and want her to get the help she seems to desperately need.

I totally agree... I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she turns up dead in some hotel room - and I won't be the only one not surprised

[QUOTE=sunnyhibiscus;1595577]I saw on Showbiz Tonight the allegations that Lynne made about Britney's manager, Sam Lufti. She said that Sam had called Britney a whore and and an unfit mother. Also, Sam had crushed pills and put them in Britney's foods and drinks. He even had hid her dog and stated to Lynne that when Britney dies, he will relieve himself on her grave.

How does Britney's mother know this information? Because a manic person could easily believe that about someone, even though it isn't true. When I worked in psychiatric admissions, I dealt with a lot of manic and paranoid individuals...some would show me magazines and were totally convinced that the magazine was all about them. A lot of them also thought people were putting things in their food (although Sam may have been trying to get Britney's meds into her!). I'm just wondering how credible that information is.

PsychTau

In her written statement asking for the restraining order, she mentioned that she and two others witnessed firsthand Lutfi's treatment of her daughter.

Earlier I posted the link to the official court documents but it appears that the link no longer works. This article gives a good summary of it. In the article, Lynne Spears wrote that Sam Lutfi himself said "his plan was to get Britney into a sleep-induced coma so that her doctor could give her drugs 'to heal her brain'."

I'm not a mother, and while I don't think Lynne lied when making her statement, I do see the importance of doing what it takes to make sure her child's life isn't compromised by people who obviously don't care about her.

Hair stylist Kim Vo went to do her hair Wednesday and he said that everything in the house seemed perfectly normal. He said that she used her accent once while he was there, but only because it's impossible to call somewhere and be like "Hey, this is Britney Spears" so she was pretending to be someone else to get service for a car or something. He said her mom was there and they were very nice and everything went very well, and that they were all on the phone a lot.

Holy crap, she agreed to Kevin getting sole custody, she has visitation. http://www.people.com/people/article...s-topheadlines

She needs therapy.

Good observation. Call Dr. Phil, you should have a job.

Shut up! LOL!

I think that she wanted to keep the kids stable for a while. This arrangement is temporary until her conservatorship status is changed, I think. Brit needs to focus on Britney right now. We all want her to get better, right? :P

I agree. Sometimes surrendering and giving up the fight is the best thing to do.

I'll disagree about therapy, however. Her behavior screams that she needs a program.