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IHeartUGA 09-14-2007 10:04 PM

"giggle528
Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 27

I have a tri sig, alpha delta pi, and alpha phi in my math class

and actually i think thats it.."

Well...we know that her school has Tri Sigma, ADPi, and Alpha Phi.

guardgirl88 09-15-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHeartUGA (Post 1519636)
"giggle528
Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 27

I have a tri sig, alpha delta pi, and alpha phi in my math class

and actually i think thats it.."

Well...we know that her school has Tri Sigma, ADPi, and Alpha Phi.


ok
what was the point of that?

mystikchick 09-15-2007 10:36 PM

It means that in about fifteen minutes or less of google searching someone can figure out what school you go to (yes, some people do take the time).

Tippiechick 09-15-2007 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mystikchick (Post 1520089)
It means that in about fifteen minutes or less of google searching someone can figure out what school you go to (yes, some people do take the time).

Or, they can figure out your whole name in a three second google of your username... Yep, did it and will do it again. Three seconds out of my life for entertainment purposes is definitely worth it:)

mystikchick 09-15-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1520100)
Or, they can figure out your whole name in a three second google of your username... Yep, did it and will do it again. Three seconds out of my life for entertainment purposes is definitely worth it:)

Now she's going to insist that it's not her and any information you may have on her is totally false and don't you have anything better to do with your time you weird biatches :p Then I predict a flounce.

adpiucf 09-16-2007 12:58 AM

Is it necessary to psycho-stalk people on Google?

Tippiechick 09-16-2007 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1520140)
Is it necessary to psycho-stalk people on Google?

Is it necessary to be overly-sensitive in so many threads? Jeez, are you having some kind of personal crisis in your life? You seem to be all, "Save the stupid newbies" lately. I don't think googling someone's username is CYBERSTALKING. What is up with you, srsly?

guardgirl88 09-16-2007 01:18 PM

hahah wow...

guardgirl88 09-16-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SECdomination (Post 1520297)
adpiucf, I completely agree with you.

I don't have 1000+ posts, but I've read enough to see that many of the poor new posters get their heads handed to them over innocent (admittedly stupid) questions and typing errors.

Seriously? Yes, it's annoying. But you all are just as bad if you don't even have the self control to stop yourselves from lashing out at a bunch of 18 year old girls in an internet forum. Sometimes, it's derserving, but most of the time, it is not.

I haven't said anything because I'm newer, but sometimes, this just gets totally out of control. Stop posting in threads if all you're going to do is make fun of the poster or try and invalidate everything they are saying.

I just don't get it.

totally agree with you!

adpiucf 09-16-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1520148)
Is it necessary to be overly-sensitive in so many threads? Jeez, are you having some kind of personal crisis in your life? You seem to be all, "Save the stupid newbies" lately. I don't think googling someone's username is CYBERSTALKING. What is up with you, srsly?

It wasn't too long ago that you yourself were the victim of cyberstalking by a now-banned Greek Chat Member.

And I appreciate your concern for my well-being. Srlsly.

jon1856 09-16-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1520140)
Is it necessary to psycho-stalk people on Google?

:):cool:

Helicopter1 09-16-2007 04:58 PM

I just googled myself and found some really neat helicopter shirts.

Sadly, I was unable to find myself.

icelandelf 09-16-2007 05:14 PM

ho hummm. in before the lock...

AnchorAlumna 09-16-2007 06:07 PM

Me, too! And begging the mod to lock it off!

guardgirl88 09-16-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helicopter1 (Post 1520367)
I just googled myself and found some really neat helicopter shirts.

Sadly, I was unable to find myself.



hhahaha thats awesome:cool:

Tippiechick 09-16-2007 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1520336)
It wasn't too long ago that you yourself were the victim of cyberstalking by a now-banned Greek Chat Member.

And I appreciate your concern for my well-being. Srlsly.

Have I been cyberstalked? Yes. I think that kinda gives me a first-hand knowledge of what it is and isn't...

Do I call doing a three second google on someone stalking? Hardly not. If googling someone is stalking, I am sure 99% of members here are guilty of stalking.

What is wrong with you lately?

UGAalum94 09-16-2007 09:00 PM

Obviously, I can't speak for adpiucf, but it does seem like people are jumping on new posters for particularly trivial things in some cases which just gives the place overall kind of a petty vibe.

adpiucf 09-16-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1520477)

What is wrong with you lately?

There's nothing wrong with me lately, but I appreciate your concern. I don't agree with veteran posters jumping all over the newbies, and I'm just as entitled to express that opinion as those who want to snark are entitled to express their opinions. I'm not violating the TOS or calling an particular person out for their actions. I am merely stating a general opinion.

I don't think that expressing a general opinion entitles asking me if I am having a personal problem in my life... It's actually insulting, which I gather is your intent and which I find surprising, seeing as you and I have traded PMs from time to time and I have supported you in the past. I am disappointed. I respect you a lot more than the comments you have flung toward me of late, and I assumed the respect was mutual.

There's nothing wrong with googling someone. But publishing it or using it to make fun of someone is out of line, and plenty of people have outed someone, IE: "Oh you're talking about Bama..." etc., based on a poster's comments. It's come up before and it's generally agreed that it's not nice to "out" people if they haven't explicitly shared what school they are attending. No one has done that in this case, but bringing up the implication that you could figure it out AND doing it in such a way that isn't warning the poster to be more discreet has been regarded in the past as being out of line.

So in summary, there's no need for the mods to lock this post if the intent is to keep me and you from killing each other. I'm not engaging anyone in a war of words or responding to any insults in kind b/c it's just not warranted. I do maintain, however, based on past mod actions, GC frowns on outing people... so making a joke about outing them or implying that you could out them is poor sportsmanship (or the online equivalent).

Unregistered- 09-16-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1520494)
Obviously, I can't speak for adpiucf, but it does seem like people are jumping on new posters for particularly trivial things in some cases which just gives the place overall kind of a petty vibe.

I've been trying my best to not get into the whole jumping on the newbies, but I've been observing a few things:

Newbies post their questions and (without naming names) the usual suspects answer them or point them into the right direction. The answer (or the link) often isn't good enough and they indicate this, and newbies cop an attitude...which then unleashes the fury of the usual suspects.

90% of the time, the newbies deserve it. JMHO. The blame shouldn't necessarily be limited to the GC usual suspects.

I've noticed that a lot of people are speaking out against the treatment of new posters. You guys are fools if you guys think that this place will get any better any time soon. :rolleyes: If you think otherwise, I seriously doubt you'll be able to enforce that.

LPIDelta 09-16-2007 09:48 PM

I think Googling someone and their school (or threatening to do so) really is cyberstalking and not being very nice to newbies. So what if they ask stupid questions? Isn't that what young people do? And let's not forget--most of the time these are young, college age folks. 18 and 19 years old. Why does it bother people so much that they feel the need to take such action as to Google or otherwise harass?

Yes it get tiring answering the same questions over and over again--then maybe GC isn't for you anymore or just not answer. JMHO. And attacking a veteran user such as adpiucf, who sticks up for newbies and tries to help, really isn't helping matters.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??

Tippiechick 09-16-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1520497)
There's nothing wrong with me lately, but I appreciate your concern. I don't agree with veteran posters jumping all over the newbies, and I'm just as entitled to express that opinion as those who want to snark are entitled to express their opinions. I'm not violating the TOS or calling an particular person out for their actions. I am merely stating a general opinion.

I don't think that expressing a general opinion entitles asking me if I am having a personal problem in my life... It's actually insulting, which I gather is your intent and which I find surprising, seeing as you and I have traded PMs from time to time and I have supported you in the past. I am disappointed. I respect you a lot more than the comments you have flung toward me of late, and I assumed the respect was mutual.

There's nothing wrong with googling someone. But publishing it or using it to make fun of someone is out of line, and plenty of people have outed someone, IE: "Oh you're talking about Bama..." etc., based on a poster's comments. It's come up before and it's generally agreed that it's not nice to "out" people if they haven't explicitly shared what school they are attending. No one has done that in this case, but bringing up the implication that you could figure it out AND doing it in such a way that isn't warning the poster to be more discreet has been regarded in the past as being out of line.

So in summary, there's no need for the mods to lock this post if the intent is to keep me and you from killing each other. I'm not engaging anyone in a war of words or responding to any insults in kind b/c it's just not warranted. I do maintain, however, based on past mod actions, GC frowns on outing people... so making a joke about outing them or implying that you could out them is poor sportsmanship (or the online equivalent).


I agree there is no need to lock this over us. I was really asking to see if something was going on that would make you seem snippier to me. I noticed that you have seemed different lately. I was genuinely asking if something was going on because it is not like you to jump all over me like you have on some comments I felt were fairly innocuous. I don't think what I did was outing her. Hell, anyone can (and many already have) googled her username. I don't think I outed her. I didn't say her name. I simply said that it's easy to figure out who she is with one search.

LPIDelta 09-16-2007 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1520535)
I simply said that it's easy to figure out who she is with one search.

I know you were talking to someone else but--you don't think simply saying something isn't threatening? Now that everyone know how easy it is, they'll probably do it too--and that doesn't seem very nice. If you are genuinely concerned for the poster, then why not PM and let her know how easy it was to locate her info, rather than out her publicly?

I am not trying to start anything, I am just trying to point out that we can't say things like this and then claim we didn't do anything.

adpiucf 09-16-2007 10:39 PM

Oh ok. I wasn't jumping on anyone-- just stating a general opinion. Honestly, I was just referencing the recent comments that it wouldn't be too hard to figure out where the OP was. I had BA flashbacks-- GC was not a happy place around that time.

Definitely I agree with OTW that things aren't going to change, LOL, but after a certain point things can get a little silly around here with the snark and I just felt the need to speak up. I know I'm not alone in feeling that way.

Honestly, I'm just voicing feelings I've had for a while. I get a little tired of people treating their GLO like it's a religion (yes, it is an important part of our lives, but it is a self-selecting social club promoting good ethics, friendship and service), and while I agree there are some ridiculous newbies on board, I'm trying not to get too jaded and give new users the benefit of the doubt! ;)

guardgirl88 09-16-2007 11:34 PM

How do you find people if you dont know their name or where they are from?

Tippiechick 09-16-2007 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPIDelta (Post 1520555)
I know you were talking to someone else but--you don't think simply saying something isn't threatening? Now that everyone know how easy it is, they'll probably do it too--and that doesn't seem very nice. If you are genuinely concerned for the poster, then why not PM and let her know how easy it was to locate her info, rather than out her publicly?

I am not trying to start anything, I am just trying to point out that we can't say things like this and then claim we didn't do anything.

If I have to tell people they can google someone's username then people aren't very bright. Also, I really have started to care less and less about people who put it all out on the internet. If it's out there, it'll be seen. Some haven't learned that lesson yet. My post was simply saying that it can be found. What she does with her info is really none of my concern.

Peeps, you guys take this shit too seriously. Who cares?

texas*princess 09-16-2007 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SECdomination (Post 1520297)
adpiucf, I completely agree with you.

I don't have 1000+ posts, but I've read enough to see that many of the poor new posters get their heads handed to them over innocent (admittedly stupid) questions and typing errors.

Seriously? Yes, it's annoying. But you all are just as bad if you don't even have the self control to stop yourselves from lashing out at a bunch of 18 year old girls in an internet forum. Sometimes, it's derserving, but most of the time, it is not.

I haven't said anything because I'm newer, but sometimes, this just gets totally out of control. Stop posting in threads if all you're going to do is make fun of the poster or try and invalidate everything they are saying.

I just don't get it.


FWIW, a lot of the newbies getting their heads handed to them this recruitment season are grown women who are well beyond their college years.

Just sayin'.

texas*princess 09-16-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1520515)
I've been trying my best to not get into the whole jumping on the newbies, but I've been observing a few things:

Newbies post their questions and (without naming names) the usual suspects answer them or point them into the right direction. The answer (or the link) often isn't good enough and they indicate this, and newbies cop an attitude...which then unleashes the fury of the usual suspects.

90% of the time, the newbies deserve it. JMHO. The blame shouldn't necessarily be limited to the GC usual suspects.

I've noticed that a lot of people are speaking out against the treatment of new posters. You guys are fools if you guys think that this place will get any better any time soon. :rolleyes: If you think otherwise, I seriously doubt you'll be able to enforce that.


This is sooooooo true.

Case in point -- that crazy mom who was trying to get 'ASU sorority reputations' on GC after being told by at least 4 or 5 different GCers, "Your daughter will get the chance to meet all of the sororities and hopefully find the home that is right for her", that answer wasn't good enough for her and she kept pushing harder every single time those answers were not good enough for her then things in that thread got nasty and people started jumping on the "LEAAAAVE TEH NEWBIES ALONE!!!!!" train.

sarasmile 09-16-2007 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guardgirl88 (Post 1520585)
How do you find people if you dont know their name or where they are from?

Its easier than you think if a person has left enough clues online. (Not saying that it can be done in all circumstances, of course, but plenty of people aren't careful about how much they reveal online.)

Unregistered- 09-17-2007 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarasmile (Post 1520595)
Its easier than you think if a person has left enough clues online. (Not saying that it can be done in all circumstances, of course, but plenty of people aren't careful about how much they reveal online.)

It also needs to be said that it's not just limited to GreekChat. Oftentimes, GCers belong to other message boards with the same username/usernames that clearly point to their identity.

Just ask the PNMs who've had shitty rush results because of what they've said online. :rolleyes:

AlexMack 09-17-2007 05:27 PM

FYI, in defense of Tippie, the googling of this particular screenname produces a real name so common there is no way to tell who she really is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarasmile (Post 1520600)
Correct.

I already figured out guardgirl88's real first and last name too - pointed out to her via PM how easy it is to find info out about someone. (Not b/c I have any malicious intent...far from it. I just wanted to point out that its not as hard to find things out about people online as you might think, and hopefully people become more careful before someone who truly does have malicious intent decides to take advantage of that.)

Kinda scary, really. Makes me wonder how much more things are going to change by the time my kids are old enough to start hitting websites, discussion boards, chat rooms, etc. :eek:

I googled that too. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the song on her myspace. Now I don't want this to turn into a rash of 'let's google each other' because that is crazy stalkerish and then we're getting retro and trust me-I have had to make changes to my online behaviour etc. because of the retro so I'm not a fan.
Simply put-use your screen name other places and here if you're not ashamed or worried about what you've got going on online. Otherwise make some changes because there are some batshit people out there who stop at nothing.

UGAalum94 09-17-2007 05:28 PM

I agree with OTW that there is sometimes a pattern with new posters, particularly the train wreck type threads. I was PMing with someone about this recently. Here's the pattern:

Somewhat ridiculous but heartfelt post by new user.

Response from one of the kinder, gentler GC users affirming and offering sympathy.

Response from polite by realistic GC user pointing out the obvious in a not-particularly-inflammatory-yet not affirming way.

Outraged or argumentative post from OP.

Flaming posts from mean people.

Interspersed with reaction from OP and nicer GCer defending him or her.

It's not that I expect things to change really or that I think the new posters have entirely clean hands when it comes to how stuff goes really wrong. It's just that it seems really petty lately. Maybe it's just having followed GC for a full year the novelty has worn off and now it just seems silly to repeated by outraged by everything.

I admit that LMV got under my skin and that the OP in this thread was a little too inclined to see herself as a victim entitled to immediate redress, in my opinion. But when we all flip out about everything, we just look mean spirited and petty.

guardgirl88 09-17-2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexMack (Post 1521054)
FYI, in defense of Tippie, the googling of this particular screenname produces a real name so common there is no way to tell who she really is.



I googled that too. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the song on her myspace. Now I don't want this to turn into a rash of 'let's google each other' because that is crazy stalkerish and then we're getting retro and trust me-I have had to make changes to my online behaviour etc. because of the retro so I'm not a fan.
Simply put-use your screen name other places and here if you're not ashamed or worried about what you've got going on online. Otherwise make some changes because there are some batshit people out there who stop at nothing.

she is incorrect. she actually PMed me asking if it was the right person and it is not. i'm not from california and im not a member of AKA.

Ilaria Ame 09-17-2007 07:42 PM

i just don't...GET...this. why initiate into a sorority where you don't talk to half your chapter and generally don't like the chapter itself? i think it's pretty safe to assume no one held a gun to your head and said "accept this bid from ABC or die!!!" geez...i wouldn't blame the new chapter for not wanting to accept you if the attitude you present here is the same you give them.

Tippiechick 09-17-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guardgirl88 (Post 1521075)
she is incorrect. she actually PMed me asking if it was the right person and it is not. i'm not from california and im not a member of AKA.

You mean Sarasmiles, right?

guardgirl88 09-17-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1521169)
You mean Sarasmiles, right?

hahaahah no shes not. im not black, and i dont live on the west coast. complete opposites actually.

AlexMack 09-17-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guardgirl88 (Post 1521075)
she is incorrect. she actually PMed me asking if it was the right person and it is not. i'm not from california and im not a member of AKA.

Someone's perping you! Call the po-lice!

icelandelf 09-17-2007 10:06 PM

now THAT'S funny!

Unregistered- 09-17-2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexMack (Post 1521232)
Someone's perping you! Call the po-lice!

Actually I liked her answer better than "OMG I'm soooooo sooooo sorry guys. I left my computer on and my roommate decided to be funny and post as me."

AGDLynn 10-05-2007 05:51 PM

Here's my thoughts.

I definitely see how Initiation paperwork can be lost or not mailed in at all. This can make it very difficult when chapters have situations like my chapter where Initiation is a couple of weeks before elections. That means when school starts back in January, you are dealing with a whole new set of officers. Hopefully, the advisors are keeping track just in case HQ doesn't realize that the paperwork wasn't received.

I don't know if it's the same process for all 26 NPC groups, but some may have where the transferee has to apply to be accepted as a member of the new chapter and the new chapter votes. For whatever reason the new group can't/won't accept the member. That doesn't mean that the member can't wear her/his letters. It means they are an alumna/alumni/however it's spelled for guys;). Be active as such. There may be others on campus in the same situation.

I too am tired of newbies posting and the same ole GCers jump on them. Give them enough rope until they hang themselves; it won't take long if they are not on the up-and-up.


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