Sure, I know we all want quota, blah, blah, blah, but these are phenomenal results by any standard. Alabama just pledged more new members than most colleges do in a four year window.

And a 60+ pledge class is a heck of a successful recruitment if you ask anyone who is sane.

um, I'm not sure if this was directed at me because I definitely didn't mean to sound like any chapter did bad but since it was my post you quoted I'm assuming it was. I never said the chapters shouldn't be happy with 60+ pledges and I assure you I am completely sane. I was just surprised that KD didn't make quota because they're considered such a strong sorority there. I have a friend who pledged KD there last year and her pledge class was huge. It wasn't meant to be an insult in any way. And it makes sense that their chapter had gotten so big they were just being extra exclusive. I think everyone wishes their chapter had that luxury!

What a beautiful chapter! It's so nice to see so many sisters spreading the AOII way of life.

Sorry! I was just quoting you because it had the numbers, not because of any comments you made.

I think we all get a little weird about quota when we should just enjoy the good results.

oops, no worries then! I just didn't want anyone to think that I was commenting on how badly a chapter had done for only getting 60+ members... that's the size of two pledge classes combined at my school!

I also hope all of you didn't think I was putting anyone down for not making quota - I only thought it was strange that my chapter did not, because they usually do so well and from what I have heard this year is no exception.

I do know that the larger chapters are allowed (required?) to drop a higher percentage of PNMs at each release session, I do not know if because KD is the largest house on campus, if they can determine if they want to meet quota or not. I do know that last year they had over 220+ members and speaking from experience - that house is too small to fit all those girls!!! :)

I'm sure nothing went "wrong" with KD at Bama--they are still one of the strongest chapters in the country for Kappa Delta, regardless of whether or not they took quota this year.

Super Proud!
 

I am soooooooooo darn proud :D of my Bama Gamma Phi sisters! This the best they have done in years and so well-deserved!! Wahoo!!:D

Thanks!! Us advisors are going to need all the alum support we can get! ;):D

Congratulations to ALL the chapters at Bama! For all of the chapters to do that well, your recruitment system is obviously working well and each chapter should be proud of the accomplishment!

Congrats to all the new members & chapters for doing such a great job! (esp. ADPi :cool:)

chapters with higher return rates are required to release more pnms than a chapter with a less successful return rate. each sorority can decide how many pnms they want to invite back as long as they do not exceed the percentage allowable by campus panhellenic. they can also decide how many girls they want to extend a bid to-i do not believe that it is mandatory to pledge to quota.

I wish I lived closer because I would love to help in person; email me if there is something I can do from a distance! :)

Did I miss it?
 

Maybe I missed something in earlier posts...what chapters can still participate in COB? My daughter ended up dropping out :(, but she's signed up for COB. Also, did any chapter do snap bidding?

The groups that can still COB are those that are under campus total. You should probably contact the Greek Life office to see which these are. :)

KD
 

I will preface my comments by saying that KD at Alabama is very strong. This year freshman quota was 73. KD originally had 52 women on their bid list. They have since picked up 16 and have a pledge class of 68. They have an excellent pledge class and will be fine. I guess they will need to work on rush for next year.

YES YES, I agree wholeheartedly.....:D

That can certainly be a wake-up call. I know we've all had chapters in that situation.

Well, the concept of snap bidding is so those who didn't get a bid can still be picked up and included in the Bid Class, without anyone knowing. COB is your daughter's way to go now. :)

Thats so cool that you remember her!!

Thanks for all your work as an advisor!! I too am a chapter advisor and its alot of work but well worth it! It is so hard for me to think in terms this HUGE. These chapters are so big, do you really know all your sisters?

Congrats again to all the npc groups!!

in addition to chapters under total, chapters who did not pledge to quota may cob until they reach the quota mark.

KD
 

So does that mean only 52 girls matched up with them as first choice?

Or does it mean that they only invited 52 girls to pref?

If 52 is how many pledges they had after Bid Matching, they went to the bottom of their Bid List and didn't fill quota. I'm sure they had more than 52 at the pref parties -- no one gets 100% return after pref.

Tell me about it! Our entire chapter isn't even as big as these pledge classes. :p

I think in all the sororities at Bama, most sisters know mainly their pledge class. However, I roomed with a senior in the house during my sophomore year, and I got to know a lot of the older girls that way. Then when I was on Exec board, I got to know all the younger members.

I would just like to say that the description of sisterhood on the Gamma Phi's page for Bama is beautiful and makes me get kinda mushy even though I'm not in a sorority. It's the best explanation of what you all try to convey each time you talk about 'sisterhood' that I, as a non-greek, have read yet. Kudos to you ladies, and congrats on a successful recruitment :)

gamma phi sisterhood description
 

where is the gamma phi description of sisterhood given--is it written by a bama gamma phi?

It's under the "scrapbook" section: http://www.uagammaphibeta.com/scrapbook.htm

It's credited to anonymous, but I think it's lovely regardless.

My chapter reads that at pref.

It is a great description of sisterhood! I'm amazed at the sisterhood within the Bama Gamma Phis .... but I know that the bond is strong at many chapters across the nation as well. ;)

Hi! I was a Phi Mu at UA (forever ago). What did you think of our rush class this year?

I didn't really get a good look at them since our house is behind theirs on Sorority Row. But one of the Phi Mu girl's grandmother is Gamma Phis housemother. Small world!

I'm sorry KK!! I meant to quick reply to Bama Phi Mu's thread, but I appreciate you answering anyway! I'm sure that didn't make any sense! :>)

LOL I was kind of wondering... but I did get a look at quite a few of the pledges from all over Sorority Row, and they ALL looked like great women.

I know, seriously. After so many years of "the Greek system is evil" it's really nice that things have picked up.
Are the frats doing as well? I know for a few years they all about fell apart in terms of popularity.

OK, I'm trying this again (sorry KK). BamaPhiMu, I was at UA forever ago. Since you've been down there, what did you think of this year's pledge class?

Quite true.

Let me say this I have absolutely no first hand knowledge aside from the undeniable fact that KD is an incredibly fantastic and strong Chapter on this campus. I can only imagine that they are taking a very close look at how and why it happened. Though kudos to them for their "snappy" attitude! :D

Let me close by saying how incredibly impressed I am with Gamma Phi. Bravo ladies! Well done! I'm filled with Panhellenic pride!

Kappa Delta Number of Pledges
 

Ah...you girls bring back such fond memories of Magnolia Drive :-)
I feel old or sound like my mom saying this...but does anybody remember the good old days when it was called rush, not recruitment, & the girls were only ever called rushees, not pnm's? I'm only in my 30's so it wasn't THAT long ago! The terms just sound so sterile & not personal & more like a robotic process when rush at Alabama is so unique & practically it's own institution, especially compared with some schools!

The whole KD situation reminds me of one year at Alabama when Kappa didn't meet quota...back in the day when every sorority typically did. It seems to me KD made this decision on their own to have fewer pledges in their new class this year. Not to sound rude or put Kappa down, but their not filling quota that particular year was not by choice, as they even generally conceded to. EVERYONE seemed to go crazy ridiculing them, particularly the houses Kappa typically competes against for the girls they are interested in. Out of the other 4 sororities that got a good kick out of a rare weak rush for a strong sorority such as Kappa, one of them even went so far as to print up long-sleeved tees with the number of Kappa's pledge class on the front & some crude statement on the back!! That's right... they even thought ahead so the tees would be worn throughout the fall.

I thought this was tacky & was not amused...showed no class...but those tees were the most visible things going across the quad for quite a while.
Imagine how this made the new pledges feel :-( Actives were on the defensive, as anyone would be, telling anyone that even looked at them the wrong way..."It's QUALITY...not Quantity!'' Maybe the KD's this year should print tees & adopt Kappa's mantra from that year for them!!! Ha!

I'm just kidding but I think with a sorority having as rich a history as KD has at Alabama, people don't need to worry about their chapter or question their member's choices. I can tell you one thing...the strong sororities at Alabama know who they want practically years in advance...the girls in the houses know who is "back at home" & will be joining them in the near future. They know not only who they want but who they will be fighting to get them. It's not like they are going into rush to meet all the girls & see who they like from a few brief encounters during the week, although some sororities do pledge girls they just met & grew to adore. The focus of most actives who have a girl from home or a relative they are pulling to pledge is to make sure their girl meets the rest of the girls that aren't from her hometown or that haven't met her previously from a spring party or visit to the University.

That's all they really have to be concerned with...they are not in a frantic rush to meet these rushees & decide who they would prefer to have join. This year in particular,all of the sororities should be proud to have pulled
off such a feat with such large numbers & in that heat no less!!!

Does anyone have any more pics from bid day? I was thrilled to see Gamma Phi Beta & A O Pi but want MORE MORE!!

Come on ladies...post those pics!