They actually had a hearing yesterday and they are just on Disiplinary Suspension...
they can reform at the start of next fall.
the only reason it is a big deal is b.c they were denied permission to sell the shirts in the first place, and decided to sell them anyway....
and also this came at a time where Tech is trying to improve its image to outsiders... Compared to A&M and UT people see us as rude, 'classless clowns.' and yes going to tech i agree we are rude for no reason.
that being said. i thought the shirts we hilarious.... would i buy one.... no...
but thats just me...
WRECK EM!

What's the deal with selling T-Shirts up there. I've been to several sorority functions at Tech and have bought t-shirts that were made by the houses on plenty of occasions.

Not seeing how this is any different.

^Because someone always has to have something to bitch/protest about. Look at recent events all over the nation...
Granted, I'm not saying the shirts are right/wrong but honestly, It's a joke. It's not like they're going to do what Vick did.

I'm a Texas Aggie and I'm offended. Not so much that it is 'just a t-shirt', but what the t-shirt represents - that Tech should do to the Aggies what Vick did to those dogs. To me that is what the t-shirt implies.

To make light of how the dogs were treated by Vick and his associates is just tasteless and tacky. If these fraternity men are all about honor, truth and whatnot, then they would have never thought to do the shirt.

Someone will always be offended, no matter what is done. The shirts could have daises and monkeys and someone will find a reason to be offended. Like I said, it's not like they're actually going to do what Vick did. Why are so many Americans sensitive to everything? People (in general) really need to grow thicker skin. Now, if the Theta Chis or whomever printed the tees do partake in dog fighting, then I can see a reason for reprimand. If it was THAT big of the deal, the company that printed the shirts would not have done so.

I am an animal lover but I personally don't see what the big deal is. No animals were harmed in the making of the t-shirts.

Maybe it's a metaphor? Or, y'know, not literal?

Tasteless and tacky does not mean dishonorable or deceitful. This is a total strawman.

"Making light" of something is pretty much the American way - should I become moribund every time I'm around a dog? Maybe I'll take a moment of silence for their pitbull brethren . . .

No sweat. Some people have empathy, some people don't. :shrugs:

Do as you wish. Another great American way. I just expressed my feelings on the topic.

Wow.

I agree that you can express your feelings, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to question the honor or trustworthiness of a group based on an inappropriate t-shirt design.

It seems like you're allowing other feelings to creep into this discussion.

I can and I did.

Of course, they are my feelings. I do with them as I please.

OK - I'll try another angle.

How does an inappropriate t-shirt relate at all to founding ideals of truth and honor? This was silly and ill-advised, but I cannot see any way in which it is dishonorable. Why do you feel the way you do?

'cuz

Be honest. You're just upset because A&M students have a freakish obsession with a dog that is mildly disturbing.


Maybe I should try to put a stop to A&M's "Saw 'Em Off" stickers with our mascot's horns cut in half. As a Texas student and lover of all things bovine it shocks and appalls me.

No more disturbing that U Texas' freakish obsession with a cow. Tell me again, how did Bevo get it's name.....? ;)

Your school tried that already, and failed. But hey, maybe you can get that movement started again. :D

Sent to me. Do not answer me but the issue!



This was written to the head of the NAACP in Atlanta on the Michael Vick affair.

I love it when a guy can gently yet logically put things into perspective.

Saturday, August 18, 2007 An Open Letter To The

Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP



Dear Dr. R L White, Head of the Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP,



My name is Mike. I am 27, and I am neither a member of your organization nor a resident of Atlanta.

Normally I wouldn't bother you, but then I came across this article, and it compelled me to write.



Since I am white, I am going to tread carefully, so as not to offend your gentle sensibilities.

But, Dr. White, you are a stupid shit.



Speaking for white people everywhere, let me fill you in on something. This case was not a race issue. It was about killing dogs. And if there is one thing people don't stand for, regardless of race, it's killing dogs. You compared it to deer hunting. Again, Dr. White, you are a stupid shit. When was the last time a deer greeted you at the door when you got home from work? Or curled up next to you and gently nuzzled in to take a nap? Dogs are pets, you moron. They aren't meant to be killed for sport. The failure to make this distinction only makes you look stupider. Sorry, I lost my temper there. Here's the thing, Dr. White. The reason people were outraged by this was because he killed dogs. If Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Favre had done it, the reaction would have been the same, I guarantee you. The difference is, had Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Favre done this, you wouldn't see white supporters rallying behind them, proclaiming he was innocent in the face of mountains of damning evidence, supporting him regardless of the outcome. Let me let you in on a secret about white people; when one of our own makes us look bad, we condemn him and disown them. I suggest you adopt a similar policy. If your group's mission is truly to advance "colored" people (your word, not mine) you'd disassociate from the idiots in your race. It can't go wrong, trust me.



Anyway, Dr. White, I don't want this to come off as racist, because it isn't. Michael Vick is a despicable person who happens to be black. The sooner you realize that, the less of a stupid shit you'll look

I like it.

I am a Silver Spur and help care for BEVO and even I can say with confidence that no such "obsession" exists with BEVO. A&M is a giant cult. Not arguable.

This is scary:

"Reveille is considered a cadet general and the highest ranking member in the Corps of Cadets. To designate her rank, Reveille wears 5 diamonds on her maroon-and-white blanket. Freshmen cadets are required to address her as "Miss Rev, ma'am." Reveille is the only animal on campus, other than service animals, who is permitted to enter any campus building. So as not to inconvenience her, if Reveille decides to sleep on a cadet's bed, that cadet is required to sleep on the floor. By tradition, if she barks in class, that session is canceled. Reveille has her own cell phone, operated by the mascot corporal, and her own student identification card."

........and actually, the first Longhorn to be named BEVO appeared during halftime of the 1916 A&M/Texas game in which we would win 22-7. Ben Dyer, editor of the Texas Exes Magazine, is responsible for the moniker.

February of 1917 is when A&M students branded him "13-0". BEVO then got moved to a ranch 60 miles outside of Austin because of rumors that A&M was planning on stealing him. After WWI the original BEVO was fattened up and eaten because it was costing the University too much money. BBQ from him was served at the 1920 UT Football Banquet and Aggies were invited to attend and eat the side that they branded. We also presented A&M with the part of the hide that had the brand on it.

No we're not. :p Texas Aggies just have a love and devotion to our school like no other. :D

I know....it's just a little scary at times. That's all.

Always gotta give Aggie some grief.

It's okay. I'm used to it!!! ;):p

What would UT and A & M do if they didn't have each other to pick on?:)

hmmmm, there is always Baylor, Texas Tech, SMU, UH, Rice......oh, the list could continue. :p

Wasn’t UT’s first mascot a dog? I know I’ve read that somewhere before.

My hatred for Oklahoma and Texas Tech is much worse than A&M.

Tech is probably the worst out of all three. I absolutely despise everything associated with that school, not including friends that go there, haha.

Yep. "Pig" Bellmont.

"Pig was only seven weeks old when he was brought to Austin by L. Theo Bellmont, a co-founder of the Southwest Athletic Conference and the University's first athletic director. The dog was named for Gus "Pig" Dittmar, who played center for the Longhorn football team. Dittmar was known to slip through the defensive line like "a greased pig," said Nicar. "During a game in 1914, the athlete and the dog stood next to each other on the sidelines and students noticed that both were bowlegged. It was not long before the dog had found a namesake."

don't worry i hate everything associated with UT.... and A&M for that matter...
minus my friends that go there.
we have a blast picking on each other about it....
but I love OU!
second to TECH of course...
its a mutual feeling....

Michael Vick surrenders early to begin serving sentence:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns

He's trying to avoid all that Christmas shopping..

Vick sentenced to 23 months
Suspended QB unlikely to play again until '10 season, if then

By BILL RANKIN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 12/10/07

Richmond, Va. — Michael Vick received a 23-month prison sentence Monday for his role in a dogfighting operation.

The sentence, handed down by U.S. District Court Judge Henry E. Hudson, ended an eight month legal odyssey for Vick that saw him go from NFL star and the face of the Atlanta Falcons franchise to a prison inmate. The sentence on federal felony charges means Vick, suspended indefinitely by the NFL, won't play again until at least 2010. He still faces the league suspension. He has also been indicted in Virginia on state dogfighting charges and faces lawsuits from several banks. The Falcons are awaiting an arbitration ruling in an attempt to recoup $20 million in bonus money paid to Vick.

establishing Bad Newz Kennels, a dogfighting operation run from a house Vick owned in Surry County, Virginia. Vick faced a maximum sentence of five years. Two of the co-defendants were sentenced last week. Purnell Peace received 18 months and Quanis Phillips received 21 months. Tony Taylor will be sentenced on Friday.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...vick_1211.html

amazing a man can get 23 months for killing some dogs but some people kill other people and walk in less time.

O well

the only time someone can possibly walk in less than 23 months in a case involving the death of another person is when it is a manslaughter case. manslaughter cases do not deal with premeditated acts such as lining dogs up to kill eachother. premeditated cases in which a human dies end up with murder charges and murderers don't get out in 2 years

Wow this post reeks of ignorance.

I think he got 23 months for sadistically brutalizing and murdering domesticated animals and funding an illegal interstate gambling ring (pretty much a racket).......which is a fairly serious felony.

.....and if you're talking about humans.....I would liken what he did to premeditated murder. I don't hear of many people getting out of prison in less than 23 months. If he did to a human what he did to those dogs he'd be on death row (at least in my state he would).

What an asshole.

vick (or should I say Ron Mexico) is a piece of shit and that is why the NFL has banned him for life

IIRC-he is not (yet?) banned for life from NFL.
Until 2010 or so.