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Kevin 07-05-2007 04:27 PM

My feeling is that this whole issue is something best ignored by the greek community. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

I guarantee you -- if greek organizations circulate petitions and cause a big stir regarding this show, we run the risk of the media picking that issue up. If the media covers our objections, that'll more than likely translate into ratings for this show.

Best to just sit back and let the show die a slow, quiet death.

AlexMack 07-05-2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1480178)
My feeling is that this whole issue is something best ignored by the greek community. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

I guarantee you -- if greek organizations circulate petitions and cause a big stir regarding this show, we run the risk of the media picking that issue up. If the media covers our objections, that'll more than likely translate into ratings for this show.

Best to just sit back and let the show die a slow, quiet death.

I can assure you that the slow death will happen if the rest of the season is anything like the pilot. Jesus...download it from itunes for the lulz.

SouthernGirl22 07-08-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porkfriedrice (Post 1480096)
So I watched the first episode and laughed extremely hard. It's stupid to the point of the polar opposite of true greek life.

The men had a rho chi for fraternity rush and they visited every house. The women went to the ones they wanted and were competing to get a senator's daughter as a member which naturally meant bribery with no shame.

The sorority was doing a fake recruitment workshop that basically centered around (omg last season prada shoes, obviously borrowed from a friend she has no money cut her) designer clothes. Then the sorority president says 'you've all done well. Now how about we go do some philanthropy work down at the senior center. [pause]just kidding, get your ID or fake ID and meet me at [local college bar].'

This show is so dumb it's almost offensive but then you just have to laugh instead because it's so ridiculous. I actually encourage PNMs to watch this show, believe that this is all greek life is and come through recruitment. God knows we could all use the laugh.

The show has already aired on TV? From your synopsis it sounds pretty stupid. Yes, I will be interested to see if any PNMs actually bring this show up during recruitment. lol.

raincoat 07-08-2007 11:30 PM

You guys realize this is a satire, right? It's not supposed to be all that realistic. :rolleyes:

And judging from how heavily they've been promoting it everywhere, I doubt they're going to just let it die easily. Who knows though.

Drolefille 07-08-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by raincoat (Post 1481446)
You guys realize this is a satire, right? It's not supposed to be all that realistic. :rolleyes:

And judging from how heavily they've been promoting it everywhere, I doubt they're going to just let it die easily. Who knows though.

It's not actually a satire. It would actually have to have a point.

SigKapCoug 07-09-2007 02:30 AM

I watched it on Itunes... I lol'd. It was fairly ridiculous and I don't feel like it's worth my personal effort to try and get it canceled.

PrettyBoy 07-09-2007 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by porkfriedrice (Post 1470578)
I've read many stupid threads on GC but this is the stupidest one yet. Congratulations!

LMAO :D

Axid angel 07-09-2007 04:24 AM

i went through sorority recruitment when sorority life was still on mtv. i can't wait to see what kind of pnms this show brings through recruitment thinking this show is an accurate portrayl of greek life.

MysticCat 07-09-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1480178)
I guarantee you -- if greek organizations circulate petitions and cause a big stir regarding this show, we run the risk of the media picking that issue up. If the media covers our objections, that'll more than likely translate into ratings for this show.

Having actually watched the show now, I agree completely. It will be more than a waste of time to protest -- it's simply not worth it, and it just makes the protesters look stupid and risks more publicity for the show. And as a great circus master once said, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

It's a TV show, a work of fiction. Unlike that MTV schlock, it doesn't make any claims to be an accurate portayal of Greek life anywhere. Alexandra Robbins isn't the producer. It's just entertainment. I was in college when Animal House came out. While it certainly spawned renewed interest in toga parties, anybody with half a brain understood that it was just a movie, not a documentary, and not to be taken too seriously.

And okay, I'll admit it -- I laughed much more than I thought I would. Not just at the crazy inaccuracies -- I nearly spit my drink out when the main character spouted that all-but-3-presidents-since-1825 garbage. Yes, there were way too many Animal House rips, but still, it had some very funny moments.

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Originally Posted by banditone (Post 1480102)
'you've all done well. Now how about we go do some philanthropy work down at the senior center. [pause]just kidding, get your ID or fake ID and meet me at [local college bar].'

^^^ now, that's funny!

Personally, I liked the Dale, the roommate:

Look, you came to college to have some fun,
and join a fraternity,
and sin in the eyes of God.

SoCalGirl 07-10-2007 12:46 AM

Why does the "Southern" roommate not have an accent????

I love Calvin "Rosenberg" Owens and Cappy!!!

I'm liking this show way more than I should. :D

MSUThetaBabe 07-10-2007 02:47 AM

I loved the show hahaha I was offended at the beginning with the rush workshop but after it got past that it was hilarious. Dale rocks my world lol. And any PNM that is stupid enough to let some sitcom influence their decision isnt someone you want as a brother or a sister anyway...you dont need people that moronic in your house.

jennie3576 07-10-2007 11:12 AM

i loved it in a guilty pleasure kind of way. sadly, this is kind of what i thought greek life was like before i wen to college. overall, it was silly and not real, and hopefully people will get that. a lot of it seemed to be over-cheesed for the cameras anyway!

Axid angel 07-11-2007 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1480178)
My feeling is that this whole issue is something best ignored by the greek community. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

I guarantee you -- if greek organizations circulate petitions and cause a big stir regarding this show, we run the risk of the media picking that issue up. If the media covers our objections, that'll more than likely translate into ratings for this show.

Best to just sit back and let the show die a slow, quiet death.

that is so true. if you don't believe watch the e true hollywood story of married with children!

juniyah08 07-11-2007 02:42 PM

when will people learn that these petitions (usually) don't actually affect the tv shows...waste of time.

KyleMcGuire1983 07-11-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by juniyah08 (Post 1483412)
when will people learn that these petitions (usually) don't actually affect the tv shows...waste of time.

I was diagnosed with Foot In Mouth Disease.

Kevin 07-11-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by juniyah08 (Post 1483412)
when will people learn that these petitions (usually) don't actually affect the tv shows...waste of time.

I believe that Jericho was granted a stay of execution due in part to one of these online petitions. Don't be so sure.

Unregistered- 07-11-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1482213)

I'm liking this show way more than I should. :D

I finally got to watch it on DVR and I have to agree.

I could have done without the cheesy dialogue here and there, but it wasn't the trainwreck I thought it was going to be.

It's satire and a work of fiction. I doubt it'll spell the end of Greek Life altogether.

quadtums 07-12-2007 11:10 AM

I'ts not that bad and I would come back to watch it again on Sunday

MysticCat 07-12-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1483532)
I believe that Jericho was granted a stay of execution due in part to one of these online petitions. Don't be so sure.

Yeah, but I think it's the exception in a number of ways.

First, as you say, the online petitions were only part of the viewer response registered at CBS. There were also the 20 tons of peanuts delivered to CBS Headquarters. Second, CBS said that the "digital" response was the largest they had ever seen in response to a cancellation. Which leads to third, the protest in that case was in response to the cancellation of the show, which is quite different from trying to get the show cancelled. I think Axid Angel is exactly right that Married . . . With Children provides a much better of example of how protesting a show may just boost viewership and help keep it on the air longer.

Protest the show too much and watch ABC/ABC Family advertising it by saying "see the show that has so many people talking," and sending the organizers of the protests fruit baskets every Christmas.

Thetagirl218 07-16-2007 02:48 PM

NPC has actually started a real petition against this show. If you are interested, I would contact your National HQ, thats where I found out about it.

Kevin 07-16-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1486035)
NPC has actually started a real petition against this show. If you are interested, I would contact your National HQ, thats where I found out about it.

Really? This is just silly.

If nothing else, this will help get kids interested in greek life who otherwise might not have given it a thought. Most kids are smart enough to know that what is depicted on television is fictional. If we're clear about our organizational culture during recruitment, most kids will be just fine.

If public perception about GLOs changes due to some show on ABC Family, then it's clear that we're not doing enough on our own to positively affect our public image on our own.

I really think this is a mistake. By giving this show any attention whatsoever, we simply help to make it more relevant.

AlphaFrog 07-16-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1486042)
If public perception about GLOs changes due to some show on ABC Family, then it's clear that we're not doing enough on our own to positively affect our public image on our own.

The Medical profession sure didn't take a hit after Scrubs started (although my aunt, who has been an RN for 30 years swears that it's more realistic than any other "medical" program)....I think of this the same way.

MysticCat 07-16-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1486042)
I really think this is a mistake. By giving this show any attention whatsoever, we simply help to make it more relevant.

And the protesting groups risk making themselves look like they're riding on a very high horse. That's how it will be perceived and reported -- if anyone notices to begin with.

aopinthesky 07-16-2007 03:20 PM

I watched the first episode and I wouldn't say that it has risen to the level of an all out protest - yet. After Sorority Life, this is a cake-walk.

33girl 07-16-2007 03:29 PM

I think a lot of people got interested in sororities after Sorority Life because they WEREN'T the stereotype a lot of people had of sororities.

at any rate....

NPC certainly does seem to be speaking on behalf of all of its members a heck of a lot lately - even if all the members don't hold the same opinion. Just saying is all.

SWTXBelle 07-16-2007 03:31 PM

I haven't seen any coverage of the NPC letter, so I imagine it's really somewhat of a non-issue as far as influencing public opinion.
Compared to the Depauw debacle, this is nothing. And I hope and pray that most of THAT is behind us.

alrphimu 07-16-2007 03:42 PM

i love this show. so many things about it are so on-the-money right....and then there is just enough stretch that it is hilarious.

kdonline 07-17-2007 04:30 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. The show is MUCH better than I thought it would be.

Besides, this show won't last more than 2 seasons, if that much. How many more storylines can they think of that are "greek" before they rehash?

TSteven 07-17-2007 04:43 PM

Tri Delta's response to the new TV series "GREEK."

GREEK TV Series - July 9
Tri Delta's response to ABC Family's new show, "GREEK."

Since early this year, we have been in close contact with entertainment reporters and producers of the upcoming "GREEK" series, and have offered Tri Delta as a resource for future story lines and segment plots that are more positive and representative of the Tri Delta sorority experience. We know that many of you have seen promotional trailers for the series, have visited the "Virtual Rush" show Web site, or have heard about the show through word-of-mouth. As a proactive organization, Tri Delta Executive Office staff and our PR firm are closely monitoring the marketing of the show and will track the topics covered in each episode, and are prepared and ready to respond as necessary.

~And this

GREEK TV Series - July 10
Fraternity President Michelle Shimberg shares her thoughts on the pilot episode of "GREEK."

After viewing the pilot episode of “Greek”, Fraternity President Michelle Shimberg shared brief thoughts with members of the press. An experpt is included below.

"'Greek' may make for good TV, but it's a far cry from reality for the vast majority of our members. Women who participate in that kind of superficial and 'mean girl' behavior are totally missing out on the true sorority experience."

Tri Delta’s Executive Office staff and PR firm will continue to monitor show plotlines and promotion.

Unregistered- 07-17-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 1486787)
I don't see what the big deal is. The show is MUCH better than I thought it would be.

Besides, this show won't last more than 2 seasons, if that much. How many more storylines can they think of that are "greek" before they rehash?

I definitely agree. There's a lot of bitching and moaning going on in some of the LJ communities I read (including the AGD one) and I just don't understand why people are making such a big deal about it.

You're right on about the 2 seasons. I watch ABC Family all the time and I can't think of any ABC Family Original Series that lasted more than 2 or 3 seasons.

The show isn't that bad. I see worse in collegian Facebook and MySpace profiles. :rolleyes:

cuteASAbug 07-17-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1486797)
You're right on about the 2 seasons. I watch ABC Family all the time and I can't think of any ABC Family Original Series that lasted more than 2 or 3 seasons.

How long has Kyle XY been around? I've watched a couple of episodes because Kyle is really cute, but as a show, I can't seem to get into it at all.

tinydancer16 07-17-2007 04:56 PM

Kyle XY is only just now starting its second season if I'm not mistaken.

:)And OTW you just made your 13,000th post! (just noticed it and thought I'd comment lol) does one say congrats for this sort of thing?

LPIDelta 07-17-2007 05:06 PM

I watched a re-airing and, while I don't plan to tune in regularly, I didn't think it was a bad show. The show portrayed things that do actually happen (admittedly not to everyone but its drama/tv), and I was pleasantly suprised by the correct use of terminology. Its not the evil that some of the responses would portray it to be...and like everyone said, its not good enough to last too long.

adpiucf 07-17-2007 05:09 PM

Is it bad that I really don't care if this show exists or not? This show won't change the good things Greeks do, nor the stupid things that college students do. It's not going to encourage positive or negative behavior or stereotypes any more than normal... and if it brings more people out to recruitment, that's a good thing. They'll get an idea of what it's really all about then.

ABC Family is like Lifetime-- there aren't any "Must Watch" programs airing... it's something you watch when you are flipping channels and nothing else is on.

AlphaFrog 07-17-2007 05:13 PM

I could see them giving it a little extra "life" just because of their online forums...if the fourms stay popular, they'll continue the show past it's prime.

Unregistered- 07-17-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cuteASAbug (Post 1486799)
How long has Kyle XY been around? I've watched a couple of episodes because Kyle is really cute, but as a show, I can't seem to get into it at all.

Kyle XY's received a huge following, but like you, I can't get into it at all, either. I know a lot of people were pissed when GREEK took over the Friday night encore slot on ABC.

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Originally Posted by tinydancer16 (Post 1486811)
Kyle XY is only just now starting its second season if I'm not mistaken.

:)And OTW you just made your 13,000th post! (just noticed it and thought I'd comment lol) does one say congrats for this sort of thing?

Thanks! To think...13,000 posts and 6 1/2 years ago I was still a collegian!

AppstatePhiMu 07-18-2007 03:38 AM

I honestly don't know why you would want to petition this show. Sure it is a little stereotypical but who or what doesn't have a stereotype today? I really enjoy watching this show and I am personally glad they are doing it. I don’t really agree with the hazing part of the show, but I can't stop them from putting it in there. Yeah, there are chapters somewhere that proly still do haze. I know a lot of the fraternities on my campus do, but as for my sorority we don’t and wont. We would get into so much trouble not only from national's but from PHC as well. Our reputation would also be tainted as well. Other than the whole hazing thing I love the show and watch it now every monday.

NebraskaDelt 07-25-2007 02:49 PM

The show isn't that bad. I kind of enjoy it.

exlurker 08-01-2007 03:55 PM

More Episodes Ordered

Variety reports that ABC Family has ordered 10 more episodes, in addition to the 10 originally ordered. The short article also mentions the show's demographics.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=14&cs=1

jessicaelaine 08-01-2007 05:35 PM

This makes me happy personally. I like the show, but mostly because I like over dramatic and outrageous shows in general . It'd be funny if Greek did a little bit in one of the episodes about an online discussion board for greeks. It'd be like "The Valley" on The OC and then "Serman Oaks: The Real Valley".


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