Really...your "friend" is doing this?

So are you going to relinquish all those KD t-shirts you bought on ebay?

I used to think the same thing. But I soon came to find out that although it's a common belief amongst the greek world, it is possible to join say an NPHC after being initiated into an NPC or vice versa. I've only heard of one case where a member went from NPHC first to NPC second. It's a lot more common from NPC to NPHC. Obviously I can't speak for all NPHC but I know of 2 NPHC organizations that don't like this, but since they don't have anything specific in their bylaws, it's possible for an interest to do. (I also know this to be the case of at least 1 NPC sorority.) After hearing so much stuff about this topic I decided to simply ask a couple of NPHC members that I know personally and it was the MEMBERS themselves who told me this about their org. Oh, it's frowned upon by all NPHC greeks and they hate it with a passion! But is it possible? Yes, it's possible. But not in those NPHC orgs that have specifically addressed this issue in their bylaws. And plus, I personally know 2 people who have pancaked between NPC and NPHC. I had an extended discussion with them as to their reasons why. I admit I was curious. Believe me, they were not shy at all - on the contrary, they were very open about their experiences. Neither one of them lied to join the seccond organization. Up until this year, I never thought it was possible either.

I'm not advertising for it. I'm not saying I agree with it because I don't. I'm just stating the facts.

At Howard it is not uncommon fo rpeople to belong to two or three Greek lettered organizations........they are just all different TYPES of organizations...I am in Tau Beta Sigma (a recognition org) and Gamma Sigma Sigma (a non-social service org)....I have sisters that are TBS/Delta Sigma Pi/AKA, TBS/SAI/AKA, GSS/Phi Sigma Pi/ZPhiB.....and guys who are in more than one frat....ie, the president of Howard is in Alpha Phi Omega and Omegsa Psi Phi.....

it is a very normal part of HU culture to join two or three student orgs....

I didn't know that. That's so interesting to me. Perhaps it has to do with your university's rich NPHC history. I've never heard of it the way you put it: a very normal part of the student culture to belong to 2 or 3 orgs . . . . like it's just expected of each student and something so natural.

Can you explain this?

NPHC organizations founded at Howard University:

Alpha Kappa Alpha (1908)
Omega Psi Phi (1911)
Delta Sigma Theta (1913)
Phi Beta Sigma (1914)
Zeta Phi Beta (1920)

Thank you OTW! That's exactly what I meant! With such a rich history, it should not be a surprise that HU naturally expects its students to be leaders in all that they do - why not in the greek culture too?

Okay, I'm curious - I've seen it posted in several threads today. I'm not doubting any of you guys, but just kinds curious how you all know this in Brandi who-ever, wanna be KD? She's only got 11 posts? Did I miss something?

For some reason I'm not 100% convinced this is her. I can't help but think that this is just someone who wants us to think that it's her. The profile reeks of the BRC: pageants, Louis Vuitton (she sells "authentic" ones on eBay), etc. etc.

Of course, I could be wrong -- but oh well. The gir's that delusional to do anything, I suppose.

BrandiRae was KDLady00, from Pearl, MS who had a thing with pagents and pretending she was a KD. So anytime a name shows up that's KD related and the location is Pearl, MS it doesn't take long to figure out that it's her (or someone pretending to be her).

It surprises me that a pledge was even given letters.....In most NPC sororites, you can not wear letters until you are full member. The only exception I know of is if a chapter is brand new, then the new member class is allowed to wear letters...

That is very much an exception, not the rule. While a few sororities have national rules on it, most of them do not, and such rules are made on a chapter by chapter basis. In fact they can be considered hazing.

Our bid day shirts have letters on them, as did those of all of the chapters at our school.

Agreed. For years, our new member class received letters on Bid Night/Bid Day, and our former national president was aware of those evenings since she lived near by--if we had been doing anything wrong, we would have heard about it, trust me. The only reason they stopped doing it is because they decided they wanted to wear their fashionable Bid Day shirts designed by chapter sisters instead. However, they are still "shirted" with letters, as well. That is not a standard rule for all NPCs.

Ok, my bad....I know it a rule for Theta, and I had been told by many other members of other GLOs it was for them too....Maybe it was just at those chapters though....

That could be it--it might have been in their chapter bylaws; but again, that could be considered hazing by today's standards. You have to be really careful.

Again, the point we were making is that NOT all NPCs tell their new members they cannot wear letters, although some may still do that. I can not speak for any organization, even my own, since I am not a national officer. However, of the 4 NPC organizations on my undergraduate campus, and the 2 NIC fraternities, ALL of them allowed their new members to wear letter jerseys. No new member was told not to wear letters at any time.

I know that for Theta Phi, it is the National Policy that pledge sisters may wear letters starting on Bid Day. I know that it's not the norm at some campuses, but our pledge sisters may wear letters, just not the crest.

As far as the letter thing, you can't tell the pledges in most NPC groups they are NOT allowed to wear letters...however, if "campus culture" frowns on pledges wearing letters, you really can't force them TO wear them. That would be hazing as well. It's like frilly rush - no one wants to be the first one to stop and whatever the more popular groups do will be followed by the rest of the campus.

Okay there is no other way to answer this question other than the way it was answered. No Wait!!!! maybe this will help En es spanol...NO..in French......NO. sorry. Could't resist.

What I want to know is why you would join an org if you werent really feeling it. It sounds to me like you only joined because your first choice wasn't available....which means you want to wear the T-shirt.

I agree. THe entire idea of depledging is just crazy to me. IF youare that unsure, just don't do it....and once you do it, live with it.

Puh Leez. I don't even want to think about the drama it would cause if a non-member had on the letters. Not to criticize how things are done in your org but letters with or without the coat of arms is the biggest no no.....shoot on GC if you have the letters...or even anything like a word or number that may possibly be associated with an org in your username and you aren't a member it can get really ugly pretty fast.

Really? You had me at the Puh Leez.

You might want to stay in your lane on this one.

No disrepsect intended.

very interesting thread

what I wanna know is how she picked me of all people to pm

Oo, post it post it post it!! :):):D

Often times it is not about the prospect being unsure.

She picked me, too.

I am a member of OPA and we place no restrictions on members being a part of any other organization. I agree with APO, we are proud of members who are part of other groups. It helps diversify our group and gives us connections with other groups on campus.

Depleging yourself does not constitute imediate memory loss of the most sacred tenents of your ORG. Now if you dont mind that information becoming public knowledge and exploited by all means go right ahead.

"fidelity" More Than Just A Word!!

I'm feelin' the sass!

SASS like that can only be made in MICHIGAN! I remember when the AKAs were suspended at my school for ten years...:cool:then some of the "interests" just "grew impatient" and "changed their minds." ;):rolleyes:

But telling them what they can't wear? *sarcasm* now that would be hazing right soror? :p

I never understood the purpose of depledging. As if there is a reversal ceremony to forget what you gain from your organization. The strange thing about depledgers, they are still attached to their org. Janice, a depledger of
XYZ sorority.


Disclaimer: NPHC does not pledge. They have membership intake process. If there are any similarity between the two, it's all in your mind.

I know that this thread is pretty old, but I know that several founding members of GSS were also members of an NPC organization (I forget which one(s).

I experienced GSS an AXiD at different campuses, so I didn't encounter any conflicts of any sort. As an active alum of both, I just have to make sure I wear the right pin to my meeting!

There's actually a third service sorority....Epsilon Sigma Alpha, which have both collegiate chapters and non-collegiate chapters.

Virginia Tech has a local service sorority, Chi Delta Alpha.

Bumping just for greekgirl88.

There is also Beta Sigma Phi which also has college and non-collegiate chapters. I am both Beta Sigma Phi and Kappa Alpha Theta.

Noob question, because I don't understand what you guys mean by NPC and NHPC or whatever.

I joined a fraternity (Theta Chi) at my current school, long story short I'm not sure if I'll be going back to the school for a number of reasons. If I transfer, is there anyway to just have my name taken out of the database/nationals so I can join a new fraternity at a new school?