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well. come to naples my friends, if you want to see northerners who left a better place, know more than us, blah, blah, blah.
from november to easter we are inundated with "snowbirds" for whom the phrase "ugly american" must have been coined. they are the rudest, most arrogant, unhappy bunch of people i have ever had to deal with. they feel that they are entitled and that everyone should kow tow to them. i have had them actually cut in front of me in line-just bypass the line of people waiting to pay , walk up to the clerk and demand to be waited on. when one woman started creating a scene after charging past those of us waiting to pay,and then creating a scene when the clerk told her that we had been waiting, we locals told the clerk to wait on her-we would wait. a month ago i was waiting in line at the grocery store and two women who were behind me, complaining about how the store did not stock a few items that they got "back home." then they proceeded to bash the beach parking, property taxes, restaurants, high cost of living in naples,etc. and how we locals need them in order to maintain the lifestyles we have . if you are so miserable, why don't you stay up north? believe me, we won't miss you!! i am counting the days until easter when the great migration will begin again. it can't come soon enough for me!! |
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Then I'm curious as to why you posted to this thread??? :rolleyes:
FSUZeta - I know, I know. I lived in Melbourne, FLA for years and was amazed at those snowbirds who were sooooo unhappy. For the love of God, move back north! Life is too short to be miserable where you are living. Lest you think we stayed in the north when we were unhappy - when my family was in NJ, my father was a vice-president at a Fortune 500 company. He told the president to move us south - or he would quit. They didn't believe it - look at your title! look at your salary! No one would leave here! He did. Packed up his wife and 4 kids, and moved home to Texas. We spent a summer haying and ranching while he looked for a new executive position. I didn't appreciate at the time the bravery that took. He got a great job with a company he has been with since 1978 - and I learned to do something rather than sit around and complain. ;) |
Naples would be one of the greatest places on earth if not for the yankees. I really like that town. Thankfully the snowbirds in the Destin area aren't as bad.
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Oklahoma isn't "south" by any stretch of the imagination right?
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Oklahoma isn't south, but there are similarities
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Um...we don't want the snowbirds either. They suck up here too. It's not a northern thing it's a crotchety old person thing.
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Well true, it could be worse for Naples. Most other places in mid or south florida have some magical direct pipeline which imports sketchy people from Jersey on a daily basis.
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Yes, TX is real south! |
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Why do you think it is a "Real South" state? I don't...and I was born and raised in Texas. Again, I think Texas is in a class of its own......and that East Texas is the only part of Texas that could be considered truly Southern. |
Most people tend to think of Texas as like west Texas - they don't realize that Texas has 5 distinct geographical areas. Texas has everything from mountains to beaches - it really is "A Whole 'Nother Country."
I'm from an east Texas family (7 generations - ancestor fought at the Battle of Bexar) and they are most assuredly southern. Tyler, Jasper, Henderson - very southern. Dallas - some parts and citizens yes, some no. El Paso - not southern at all. You get the idea. |
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ETA: I'm DAR & UDC, too. |
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The only place that I would live in Dallas would be Highland or University Park. I pretty much despise the Dallas suburbs.....and wouldn't consider them Southern in any way, shape, or form.
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Thanks, honeychile. I was eating lunch with my children in Texas when this loud, obnoxious woman came in and loudly told her friend "I just saw a minivan with a Confederate flag sticker and a Yale sticker - isn't that an oxymoron?"
It was my car. Only the fact that I had 4 children with me, including one infant and one toddler, kept me from going over and explaining that, no, there is nothing oxymoronic about it - it is entirely possible to be 1.) southern and 2.) well-educated. Jeez. OH - and I'm working on my DRT!!! |
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Some people just can't think properly, as it would take them out of their hate-filled comfort zones. More's the pity, as it just perpetuates old myths. What gets to me are the people who move South, raise daughters and call them GRITS. There's a lot more to being a Southerner than geography! |
Mary Dickson? Each post of yours keeps getting better and better.
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el paso, haha.
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El Paso........gateway to Juarez.
I shudder at the thought. |
I went to Juarez and El Paso recently, I'm pretty sure there were more English speakers in Juarez than in El Paso.
P.S. Future Greek you have no idea what your talking about |
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Texas is a country and they have @ 5-6 parts or States.;) Just like North South, East West, they, Texicans are all different!;) Amzing though with your window stickers, I am surprised you were not draggged out of food joint and hauled off in chains down the highway by a BIG PICKUM UP TRUCK WITH A WHIP ANTENNA AND RIFLE IN THE WINDOW!;) Glad to see and hear from you and Your children!:D |
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I think El Paso is perfectly fine. |
Feel free to think so. But taking jabs at the south warrants the kind of response you got.
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Hm, thought it was all in the same country? From sea to shining sea and border to border.:D
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When was the last time you looked at a map land hunter? Texas is South, just because the state has several geograhic areas doesnt meant its not. Why is Dallas surburbia not South, because they are riding horses? Please check the differences in human geography and physical geography! Texas is the southermost part of the Great Plains.. look that up if you need too! :rolleyes: |
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We are, I believe, discussing the cultural, rather than the geographical, south.
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I would pretty much say that anything east of the Brazo River could (might/use to) be considered culturally Southern. Or at least linked to the ways and traditions of the South as it may be historically "stereotyped" and or classified. The rest of Texas - bless it's heart - would be considered "western". Or simply "Texas" at best. Not that there is anything wrong with that. |
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If stating that you were thankful El Paso was not considered part of the south was not meant to be a slam at the south - then what was it you were trying to convey? And to further complicate things, you then provide a geographical defense of El Paso as a southern city - seemingly contridicting your earlier assertion that you were thankful El Paso was not southern. Huh???
For the record, I believe you will find no arguement with the idea that El Paso is a part of the cultural and geographical Southwest. Geography is more apt to change than culture. At one time, Texas extended all the way up to what is now Colorado! El Paso has more in common with, say, New Mexico, then it does with east Texas on just about every level. If I were to state "Thank God I'm not an Alpha Phi" - wouldn't you consider that a slam at Alpha Phi? (Not that I ever could - Syracuse Triad Forever!) I believe that is why your earlier statement was seen as an insult. If you did not mean to insult the south, you might wish to reword it. If you did, well, then at least own it! |
In terms of Texas, the Southern line probably ends around Dallas, though I believe in smaller towns in Texas the line may go quite a bit further west.
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The South has a bigger dick than the North.
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