that's gonna be some beautiful babies.

just don't call your kids caucASIAN. sounds like cockasian

only mix i can think that is better is blackinese.

TIGA TIGA TIGA WOODS YALL. It's ALL GOOD YALL. It's ALL GOOD

That's true sometimes. But some mixed babies I've seen look like they had their heads shoved into blenders and pieced back together. Wow that turns me on.

-Rudey

Aye Brah! How is Hawaii treatin you? You malafalakocka feeka leekie yet?

Everybody else can say what they want to say and not get critcized. But when I have something to say I get criticized. I have the right to say what I want to say, too. If you don't like it, too bad!

This is certainly an attitude that fosters healthy discussion.

-RC
--Logic: if you don't like it, apparently too bad!

I wasn't even talking to you asshole! If you don't like THAT, too bad!

I don't think people, namely ME....like being called ignorant and stupid because we don't have any intererst in dating a black girl.

For me PERSONALLY, I find plenty of men regardless of their race/skin color/ethnicity attractive, would I willing GO OUT AND PURSUE a man of another race other than african-american. Probably not. But, I ALSO wouldn't PURPOSELY GO OUT AND PURSUE a black drug dealer off the street or one who is really short, etc. I have a PREFERENCE for fairly intelligent, usually college-educated upwardly mobile african-americans.

Macallan I UNDERSTAND you COMPLETELY, in your social arena, you grew being surrounded by certain things, experiences, types of people. Which has NOTHING to do with race, only to do with what YOU prefer and what you are surrounded by, just that simple.

At least it should be that simple...

I know a white AKA. It just so happened that when and where she was in undergrad there was a white Alpha Phi Alpha. People who didn't know them but knew of the white girl in AKA and the white dude in APhiA would automatically assume that they should be dating and would say so whenever they met one or the other. Something along the lines of "Hey, isn't there a white girl in AKA? You should date!" They were never interested in going down that road but found it funny, as do I.

As for the rest of it...let people have their opinions. Eventually (and it's going to be a looong time before we get there) race won't matter when it comes to matters of the heart, or any matter. But it's also important to note that there are still many communities in which interracial dating is seriously looked down upon. Like some others have expressed, I don't believe a healthy relationship could flourish in such an environment. Also, you have to think of the kids or future kids...if you are living in an environment that is hostile towards interracial dating/marriage, the kids (who should grow up feeling completely accepted, wherever they are) are going to take flak for it too.

As for me, I've dated black men (and I'm white). A lot of the times, the black women in the community would disparage the relationships. I've heard black women that say they want to keep the good black men to themselves :D

It's one thing not to be attracted to someone. It's quite another thing to refuse the possibility of an interracial relationship because of social views on race. There is a difference.

WOW. You are way too emotionally invested in all of this. Why do you care who some white guy finds attractive. It's all about PERSONAL PREFERENCE!

BTW-mac25 WOULD marry Condi Rice (if she was 25 years younger)-just to have GW over for dinner. :D

Those social views often dictate who we're attracted to though. If I've never thought "ooh that guy's hot" about an arab man, how do I know if it's because I'm conditioned NOT to like them or because I'm genuinely not attracted. It's all based on conditioning. That's why we tend to like clean shaven, showered, well dressed guys. (Hugh Laurie's scruffiness not being the norm)

/hypothetical situation only

Also, this is not limited to white/white preferences - many black men and women prefer to date within their race, as well as various Asian heritages. It's just how it works for some people.

That's a gut response to appearance (or whatever it may be). What if you were to get to know an arab man (as in your example) and you two became friends? As the relationship progressed, you might become more attracted to him, seeing things you didn't see before. What I'm saying is that it would be a sad thing to refuse this possible relationship simply because your personal social group would disapprove.

I don't deny that we all have preferences (appearance, social class, education, background, etc.) but to refuse a potentially beautiful relationship based on an issue with any of those would be a loss.

Just because it's widespread doesn't mean it's good. Genital herpes is pretty prevalent, but it's certainly not pleasant! ;)

Are you trying to say I have a social view that leads me to not want to date outside of my race? That really is entirely not the case at all for me. I am simply not attracted to them.

Refusing a possible relationship (that you'd actually want to have) because your social group would disapprove means you're letting the judgments of others control your behavior. That's not a race issue -- it's a pussy issue.

I disagree that declining to enter into a relationship with someone based on appearance, social class, education, background, or ANY OTHER reason would be a loss. I'd never date someone I found unattractive, period. You're saying that would be a loss, because I'm refusing a relationship based on an issue with his appearance? Even if that's true (I don't think it is -- it would be more of a loss for me to be unhappy with someone I didn't dig), who cares?

So you're comparing not finding someone attractive to genital herpes?

LOL YOU DON'T THINK I'M HOT! HERE IS A LESION!

doesn't mean it's bad either. a preference is a preference, nothing more nothing less. i'd hardly equate wanting to date someone who shares the same culture as you to genital herpes.

Maybe I'm just picking up something that isn't there. It's hard to get the full effect when I'm just reading. I went back to figure out why I put together this image of you. Here's what I found:

The things you've said seem to be less about attraction and more about society.

Oh hush now! You know what I mean. Just because something is widespread doesn't make it good. That's all I'm saying.

You stop too. :) Y'all know what I'm saying. He went about justifying the attitude by saying that it happens in other cultures. How many people have to align with a belief or attitude for us to say it's good or even just ok? My point is that saying "they do it too" isn't a strong enough reason.

No one said anything similar to this. You're really doing poorly in this thread - spouting truisms doesn't make for good discussion, especially when they're railing against something no one is claiming.

Plus, who has to 'justify' an attitude? I thought this was a social ill?

Here, let me put it more plainly:

It seems specious to declare this a social issue, when it happens within and across all races. This would tend to make me believe it's generally an attraction thing, and not, for instance, a "white people yay, black people boo!" thing.

I can assure you whoever I marry I will definitely have a strong attraction towards them. I can see though how you can come to your conclusions from my posts. However, in my social setting and where I grew up....the cultural/societal differences between white and black were quite large and very different....so that does have something to do with it as I do have an idea in mind about what kind of person I would like to be with. The fact that I am attracted more towards white women only adds to it.

I still don't see much wrong with wanting to marry or date based on some societal factors, especially if other attraction preferences play into the factor.

Macallan25,

Sorry, but you did walk into this comment from me...

YOU AIN'T GOT THE DICK-STRENGTH TO EVEN HANDLE A SISTAH!

That's why you say you are not attracted to a Black Woman. But I bet you, if Beyonce was calling you everyday, you'd drop everything you would be doing to be with homegirl. Just like Dave Chappelle was with his Oprah episode on the Chappelle Show...

Dude, you know I am joking... But seriously, we all know you cannot fathom "crossing the street" and go marry someone outside your ethnic cultural heritage, because your marriage is probably already "pre-arranged" anyway... So basically, your choice in a mate(s) is/are extremely limited. Besides you will be required to be hitched no later than 25-27 years old and a kid popped out by the time you are 30.

But, the irony of most of these comments are you can think all you want about relationships and marriage, but you will NEVER know who you marry until you sign that marriage license... Sometimes it works out, most times it doesn't. What does that say about our state of marriages in the United States in general? Then some folks are dying to legally recognized marriages--but that is a whole-different discussion.

For now, we are dealing with young people--and if you are under the age of 35 years old, you are young--'cuz I'm old... Y'all's mentality is just dating...

The question is are you dating to have fun? Or are you dating to court? Depending your answer, either way, you best know who you are and what you are about because you can avoid some problems in the future. I think that race, ethnicity, heritage, religion, and creed are bullshit-assed reasons for dating exclusion. But that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

I doubt he's that limited, if he's like most of us, he's merely limited to southern pearl-wearing sorority girls from wealthy families. There a lot of them.

Yep, my marriage is pre arranged. My family also still observes bride prices and dowerys.

Right now i'm dating to have fun. If the oppurtunity arises to date exclusively, then thats great. You are entitled to your own opinion, I never said you weren't.....and I am entitled to date whomever fits my personal preferences. I don't think I ever gave those reasons for whom I chose to date.......I said who I was attracted to and who I would want to date.

^^^Boys, my last few statements were not just limited you all. Sorry if I was unclear...

Interracial relationships aren't for everyone. I married a Hispanic, but do I think less of someone who would choose not to, for whatever reason? No. It's their personal preferance. Marriage is hard enough without complicating it with other issues.

I see you, girl... ;)

Who says pearl-wearing sorority girls from wealthy families have to be white. You need to get out more. Maybe visit Hong Kong. Lots of pearl wearing (though mostly GDI) types there.

LOL.

I agree with the religion thing. Faith is very important for me too.

I agree with you, up to the part about me being insecure. I'm not insecure, I would feel uncomfortable because the way I was raised, and I'm more attracted to black women anyway. To each his own buddy.

From what I have seen and experienced (my campus, as well as many others in the South)......most pearl and Polo wearing wealthy sorority girls are white.

I wish we all thought like that.

You hit that on the nose.

LOL.

Why be limited to the south?

-Taualumna, an Asian pearl/polo/Lilly wearing, private girls' school Old Girl (an old-fashioned Commonwealth prep school term for alumna) Junior Leaguer from Toronto, Ontario...just to give an example of what a pearl wearing girl might be like

Yeah, from the South is very important. Basically, its a shorter way to say Christian, well mannered, classy...