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BetteDavisEyes 08-09-2006 12:37 PM

I find it rather funny that people keep trashing LA just b/c of the stereotype that we're all actors who wait tables. That's really all it is. A stereotype. I've lived my entire life in CA and have never waited a table in my life nor had any desire to join the theatre. The cities I've lived in have included Los Angeles, San Diego, Compton, Long Beach, Bellflower, Downey, Riverside, and Brea.
What I like best about having lived in such different cities in CA is the fact that not one of these cities is anything like the other (well, except for Bellflower & Downey since they are literally right next to each other). The people vary from city to city. That's what I like in cities. I like diversity but I do understand that diversity is not for everyone.

I don't have any cities I hate simply because I have found both good and bad things about cities. Why waste my time hating a geographical location? There are both good and bad things about living in any cities. To each his own.

Why trash talk a city if you've never been there? It's fine if you've been there, experienced the culture, nightlife, etc. of the city but it's pretty stupid to hate any city just based on stereotypes you have based on watching TV.

valkyrie 08-09-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
Why trash talk a city if you've never been there? It's fine if you've been there, experienced the culture, nightlife, etc. of the city but it's pretty stupid to hate any city just based on stereotypes you have based on watching TV.

So if you haven't been to a city, all of your opinions of it are based on stereotypes that come from watching TV?

[The answer to that question, by the way, is NO.]

Who the eff CARES if somebody trashes your city? That's what I don't get.

KSigkid 08-09-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
Who the eff CARES if somebody trashes your city? That's what I don't get.

This is what I don't get either. No city is perfect (yes, even Pittsburgh has its flaws). I love Boston, but I also know it is not even close to perfect. Same for CT, even though I feel very much at home there.

As far as me, there aren't any places I would rule out. I don't know if I'd like someplace really rural or desolate, though.

Dionysus 08-09-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
I don't have any cities I hate simply because I have found both good and bad things about cities. Why waste my time hating a geographical location? There are both good and bad things about living in any cities. To each his own.

Why trash talk a city if you've never been there? It's fine if you've been there, experienced the culture, nightlife, etc. of the city but it's pretty stupid to hate any city just based on stereotypes you have based on watching TV.

I agree that there's good and bad things about every city/state/region. It's that sometimes the bad outweighs the good, and the other way around.

With the internet it's pretty easy to get the dirt on just about any well known city. Check out findyourspot.com. Message boards can also be somewhat reliable if many people say the same things about one place, IMO.

valkyrie 08-09-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid
This is what I don't get either. No city is perfect (yes, even Pittsburgh has its flaws). I love Boston, but I also know it is not even close to perfect. Same for CT, even though I feel very much at home there.

Exactly -- every city has weaknesses. I mean, in some ways Denver is a cow town, fashion backwards, and the police are good for shooting people but not much else. Chicago has pee-smelling alleys, too much humidity, and Cubs fans, LOL. Even so, I dig both. If other people don't, that's cool. And anyway, when people are defensive about cities, it only makes it more fun to talk crap.

shinerbock 08-09-2006 01:31 PM

Yeah, I don't even try and defend Atlanta much. The only city I attempt to defend is Charleston, because its simply the best city in the country...

Stef the Pef 08-09-2006 03:08 PM

Seattle. Been there, done that, figured out why it has the largest suicide rate in the nation because it's freaking depressing! It rains too much for me, and I'm too spoiled by the sweet people in the South. They're just not that friendly up there, not to mention that the cost of living was ridiculously high.

Aside from there, I probably wouldn't live...well, anywhere up north. That's not for me, and I can't drive in the snow.

Glitter650 08-09-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ucfpnm
LA, on the other hand, was basically a slum. I hated everything about it.


What part of "LA" did you visit ?

mulattogyrl 08-09-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stef the Pef
Aside from there, I probably wouldn't live...well, anywhere up north. That's not for me, and I can't drive in the snow.

LOL, see, I'm just the opposite. I don't think I could live in the south. I guess I'm a true Yankee, plus I'm chubby and I don't feel like sweating all year round. :o

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
I mean, in some ways Denver is a cow town, fashion backwards, and the police are good for shooting people but not much else.

WHAT?!
If you think it's a cowtown now, you should have been here in 1982.

KSigkid 08-09-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
Exactly -- every city has weaknesses. I mean, in some ways Denver is a cow town, fashion backwards, and the police are good for shooting people but not much else. Chicago has pee-smelling alleys, too much humidity, and Cubs fans, LOL. Even so, I dig both. If other people don't, that's cool. And anyway, when people are defensive about cities, it only makes it more fun to talk crap.

Seriously - Boston often goes between over-confidence and self-loathing, and CT can't decide whether it wants to be aligned with NY or New England (and they end up annoying both).

valkyrie 08-09-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
WHAT?!
If you think it's a cowtown now, you should have been here in 1982.

LOL. I'm still totally weirded out about all the cowboy stuff here and how people get really excited about the freaking rodeo. Ew.

The whole Rockies = Christian thing bothers me, too. Not that there's anything wrong with being Christian, but they're kind of weird about it. Except Jose Mesa. Jose Mesa is my favorite.

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
LOL. I'm still totally weirded out about all the cowboy stuff here and how people get really excited about the freaking rodeo.

Yeah, but the National Western has a GREAT press open house prior to the Stock Show. Talk about great food and alcohol...

ETA that of all of the cities I've visited (and that's a lot of them), I can't think of many places that didn't have something good to say for itself.

Except maybe Buffalo.

KSigkid 08-09-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Yeah, but the National Western has a GREAT press open house prior to the Stock Show. Talk about great food and alcohol...

ETA that of all of the cities I've visited (and that's a lot of them), I can't think of many places that didn't have something good to say for itself.

Except maybe Buffalo.

Buffalo chicken subs, and the chicken wings at Anchor Bar.

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid
Buffalo chicken subs, and the chicken wings at Anchor Bar.

Been there -- but I don't eat chicken. It's a long story.

KSigkid 08-09-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Been there -- but I don't eat chicken. It's a long story.

Oh - well then you may have a point. I went to a friend's wedding there this past summer, and while the wedding was fun, we only went to a couple of other places around the city.

The suburbs seemed nice, though.

valkyrie 08-09-2006 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Talk about great food and alcohol...

Speaking of alcohol, I DARE ANYBODY to tell me of a state that has better beer than Colorado.

alum 08-09-2006 05:07 PM

I grew up in a Boston suburb, went to undergraduate school in Pittsburgh and have lived across country in a variety of states due to GEN Alum's PCS's.

I don't know why, but I really loved Louisville and Savannah! They both had definite slower paces of life but I found them both to be highly enjoyable. Hated LA, liked SD, moved back to Boston and decided we would never live there again after grad school was done. NYC was okay but dirty, KC ditto NYC plus slow. DC and Richmond are both wonderful. I would never actually live in the District (or in the MD suburbs for that matter), but living in nearby VA allows one to take advantage of the amenities of our Nation's Capital. Richmond (the west side) is a lovely small city.

Anyone else live in all 4 commonweals (KY, MA, PA, VA)?

shinerbock 08-09-2006 05:33 PM

Colorado has some good beer. My personal favorite micros are from Texas (hence the name) and Georgia-Sweetwater

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
Speaking of alcohol, I DARE ANYBODY to tell me of a state that has better beer than Colorado.

Hey, just because Denver's mayor owns a micro-brewery...

Other than that, you must be talking about the Budweiser Plant at Fort Collins, right?

macallan25 08-09-2006 06:11 PM

I'm a big fan of New Belgium in Colorado....but you can't get alot of the different beers out of Colorado. Other than that, I love Coors.....but I generally prefer microbrews from here (Shinerbock/Lonestar) and other places in the South. (big fan of Sweetwater as well.)

BetteDavisEyes 08-09-2006 06:15 PM

LOL! I went to Colorado Springs a few years ago to visit some friends. For some odd reason, they were adamant that I couldn't leave Colorado without visiting the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. While I was impressed by the belt buckles the size of dinner plates, I still don't get the whole rodeo scene.

macallan25 08-09-2006 06:17 PM

What do you mean you "don't get it?"

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
I still don't get the whole rodeo scene.

Ah, but I'll bet you and Valkyrie look just adorable in your cowboy hats and boots!

valkyrie 08-09-2006 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Ah, but I'll bet you and Valkyrie look just adorable in your cowboy hats and boots!

LOL EW.

I was impressed by New Belgium at first, but I'm pretty tired of their stuff now -- Loft, which they're not making this summer, is my favorite but I'm soooo sick of Fat Tire. Oskar Blues is the shit. Avery, Wynkoop, Glenwood Canyon, Left Hand, and Tommyknocker are awesome, as well.

Of course, if Coors products are the only option, I won't have beer.

BetteDavisEyes 08-09-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25
What do you mean you "don't get it?"


I meant that I didn't get the urgency in which they insisted I couldn't leave Colorado Springs until I saw that Rodeo Hall of Fame. They took me around & I loved the city. I loved going to the Garden of the Gods and the cute teahouses they insisted I see. We spent my last day there at the hall of fame which was odd. By odd, I mean that they aren't big rodeo fans themselves which is why I couldn't believe they wanted to "save the best for last." I must say that parts of it were impressive but we spent almost 3 hours in there! Perhaps they've enlarged the place by now but it wasn't so massive when I went there that it would have taken 3 hours to tour.
I did like the big bull they had penned there. I've never been to a rodeo (still haven't) but it was cool to see how big they actually are in real life.

Quick sidenote: They had these great pictures of the past & present Miss Rodeo. I loved the outfits & the hair especially from the gals of the 70's.

macallan25 08-09-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
I meant that I didn't get the urgency in which they insisted I couldn't leave Colorado Springs until I saw that Rodeo Hall of Fame. They took me around & I loved the city. I loved going to the Garden of the Gods and the cute teahouses they insisted I see. We spent my last day there at the hall of fame which was odd. By odd, I mean that they aren't big rodeo fans themselves which is why I couldn't believe they wanted to "save the best for last." I must say that parts of it were impressive but we spent almost 3 hours in there! Perhaps they've enlarged the place by now but it wasn't so massive when I went there that it would have taken 3 hours to tour.
I did like the big bull they had penned there. I've never been to a rodeo (still haven't) but it was cool to see how big they actually are in real life.

Quick sidenote: They had these great pictures of the past & present Miss Rodeo. I loved the outfits & the hair especially from the gals of the 70's.

ahh, I gotcha.

shinerbock 08-09-2006 06:56 PM

Coors...when your economy beer (Keystone) is better than your main brew (coors light), your company sucks.

valkyrie 08-09-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Coors...when your economy beer (Keystone) is better than your main brew (coors light), your company sucks.

AHAHAHA. One time I was at a Broncos game and they were about to stop selling beer and the nearest beer stand had nothing but Coors Light. I was already buzzed so without thinking I got one. HOLY HELL that shit is NASTY. I'll admit that I'm an incorrigible beer snob, but WHO DRINKS THAT? I'll give them a love train right upside the head. Sick. At Rockies games, I don't care how far I have to go or how long the line is, I'm going to "Beers of the World" so I don't have to drink crap.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with Texas beers. Is there anything good that is sold outside the state -- preferably an IPA, porter, or stout?

FirstAndFinest 08-09-2006 07:15 PM

I think Coors Light was invented so women would drink their beer. When I drank, that was my beer. That was the beer all my girlfriends drank. I never knew a guy who'd touch it! (My brother would give me grief if I asked him to get it while making a beer run, cause he's a beer snob.)

macallan25 08-09-2006 08:10 PM

I'm a huge Coors Light fan...for normal everyday beer....I think Miller Light and Bud Light taste like absolute garbage, with Bud Light taking the cake. I am a fan of Bud heavy on the golf course and a MGD every once in a while.

I dunno, maybe its a Texas thing....because almost every guy I think of drinks Coors Light.

blueangel 08-09-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
Yeah, but the National Western has a GREAT press open house prior to the Stock Show. Talk about great food and alcohol...

ETA that of all of the cities I've visited (and that's a lot of them), I can't think of many places that didn't have something good to say for itself.

Except maybe Buffalo.

Buffalo sponge candy! MMMMmmmm!

adpi*violet 08-09-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
Speaking of alcohol, I DARE ANYBODY to tell me of a state that has better beer than Colorado.

I agree!
I was amazed to find Left Hand in the grocery store down here in San Antonio when we moved. Amazed, but quite happy as it is my home town brew. My car even sports a Left Hand decal.
I like New Belgium also, but I agree that Fat Tire is getting old. I like their Blue Paddle much better. I love being able to go to Denver, Boulder, Estes, anywhere in CO and get a good and unique microbrew beer.
Aahhhh man, I miss my mountains. I keep trying to convince my hubby to quit his job so that we can move back out there.

tunatartare 08-09-2006 09:09 PM

Baghdad

DeltAlum 08-09-2006 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes
They had these great pictures of the past & present Miss Rodeo. I loved the outfits & the hair especially from the gals of the 70's.

Still considered high fashion in Texas. Big hair and hoop skirts...

(Ducking...)


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