Agree about Ray and Yolanda, but the frat boys have done fine with navigation until this episode. In the first instance, they were using a hand written map, which I guess Eric read incorrectly. Their problem stemmed from leaving the ferry dock in the wrong direction.

As for their "shortcut" (a bad idea), I wonder if the map they had was misleading or easily misread. That has seemed to happen to some other teams in other episodes -- maps with limited English or with fewer sideroads, landmarks, etc. All maps are not created equal.

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Err as much as I love Ray to be a Greek, he should know better than fly the bird to Yolanda, especially after the tattoo crest showing last episode. Talking about respecting ladies, geez .... :rolleyes:

And on national TV.

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I play neutral on the hippies, yes they're ugly and too frantic sometimes, but definetely add flavor to TAR. They always try to respect the locals by learning the local language, which very rare for Americans.

I don't really like them, but I have to agree with you. And they are good racers overall.

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MoJo is very bland, nothing happen (yet) except Monica's break down carrying a fish. Whoop de doo, fish juice all over you.

What I like about them is Joseph's reactions to her breakdowns. "What!!" "You're not gonna cry, are you?!"

Monica bugs me. To say that Athens is where people began to "think" is moronic!!

I love that quote! In context, it's clear that when she says Greece "is where thinking began" she means Western Philosophy. But the editors aren't letting go of it, and I laugh every time they play it.

Am I the only one who wants to slap Monica and rip her head off? :mad:

Who's left?!

RIGGED! I'm now not enjoying Amazing Race as much as before, because I truly believe the producers decide who will be eliminated. If they see the hippies are last, all of a sudden.. presto, "You have NOT been eliminated!"

The producers must think that they are entertaining and make for good TV. I find them crass and annoying. I literally screamed at the TV when they weren't eliminated.

And I was screaming at the TV that they better not be eliminated! ;)

Question: Isn't part of the rules that they are not to speed (or maybe that was just part of one season or one season's episode)? If it is a rule, shouldn't teams be penalized for speeding (because I remember that happening in season's past).

I'm still rooting for the Hippies (yes, I've liked them from pretty much the beginning :D) and Ray and Yolanda - I'm over the Frat boys, although I will agree that they're basically good Racers, and Monica and Joseph just tick me off (see earlier post) :)

Maybe that was their second non-elimination.

Supposedly, the non-elimination legs are determined before the race starts. But how to prove/disprove that, I don't know.

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The producers must think that they are entertaining and make for good TV. I find them crass and annoying. I literally screamed at the TV when they weren't eliminated.

I'm with you, but at least until this last leg, I could at least give them credit for being smart racers. But they made some dumb mistakes this time.

First, they made their Yield decision based on emotion and payback rather than on good strategy. They knew that -- thanks to 2 equalizers in a row, all of the teams were pretty much together. If they had been thinking strategically, they would have yielded the frat boys, who have been their biggest competition by far. Instead, they yielded MoJo as payback.

If they had yielded Eric and Jeremy, then it would be the frat boys who would have been handing over all of their money and belongings. Of course, at the time of the Yield, no one knew what was coming later, but it became rather obvious that "Dry" was the faster detour than "Wet" -- after all, R&Y came in first, MoJo made up for the Yield and caught up with the hippies and frats.

If E&J had been yielded, they still would have chosen "Wet" because they always choose the physical challenges, knowing that in all likelihood they can complete them easily. If this had happened, E&J would have stayed about 30-40 minutes behind the hippies and would have been the last to arrive. But because they didn't think strategically, the hippies came in last and E&J came in second.

And then, BJ ran to the pit stop without pants or shoes. I know he's a hippie and all, but when you can see that 3 teams are bunched together, and you don't know where the 4th team is, and you know that if you're last, your only hope is that it is a non-elimination leg, which means you'll lose everything except what you're wearing, it's pretty dumb not to have pants and, especially, shoes on. (Also means you can't run as fast, especially if you're going to try and take a shortcut over rocks.)
Edited to correct earlier statement: There's only a penalty if the clue states a maximum speed limit.

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CBS is moving Amazing Race next season to SUNDAYS @ 8!!!!

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Huh. Still feels like it belongs on Tuesday.

I've got to say, though, I like Sunday at 8 better than Wednesday at 8.

I think it will do better at Sundays at 8, given the sucess of their shows that have been at that time slot.

It also means that Cold Case will be up against DH.:(

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Me too. I'm looking forward to it on Sundays. It looks like the Hippies won.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo!

I turned off the TV, and didn't even watch the end after I saw they finished the flag challenge first. They are obnoxious, and didn't deserve to win.

I'm telling you, this show was rigged. The hippies came in last twice, and twice were not eliminated.

And I'm so happy the hippies won! :D

I don't think it was rigged - I think they got lucky. And I think they did try to connect with people in different places and that's why they were so good with getting money and stuff they needed when they were in the non-elimination rounds.

Personally, I wanted Ray and Yolanda to win, but I should be happy that they got as far as they did (without killing each other). But I was happy that the hippies won.

Did anyone notice how P.O. the frat boys (that weren't really frat boys) were when they lost?:o

i agree. if you come in last place then you should have been eliminated.

i knew which flags belonged to which country and would have won that last round!

What was really fun at the end was watching the faces of the other players. Monica was fit to be tied when the Hippies came in first. I don't think she would have cared if it was anyone else but them. She is probably still pissed that team MoJo were eliminated at all. The pouty faces of the frat boys were great. They had an air of superiority about them forever and then came in second. Remember one of them made some comment about "I was at Harvard and he was at Stanford." School does not matter when you don't know the flags of the countries!

I like the hippies. Thought Ray and Yolanda did a good job. They need to get GPS built into themselves. Getting lost was their major downfall each time.

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The reason I didn't like the hippies was mainly because of their non-stop mugging for the cameras. I also didn't like how they would make fun of the host country's language right in front to the locals. They did this the most in Italy, "That's-a right-a, we-ah, gonna winnah." They could be the poster boys for "The Ugly American."

Well, I said all along I would not complain if the hippies won -- although the get-up BJ wore on the CBS Morning Show had me reconsidering. I found them very, very annoying, but they raced well, and they were good examples (usually -- see blueangel's example above) of respectful travelers. They made some mistakes along the way, but recovered well.

Ray and Yolanda could only have won by fluke. They consistently made too many mistakes.

Like I've said before, I would have preferred to see Eric & Jeremy win. They ran a close to flawless race -- one of the best I've ever seen (one of the few teams to never finish below fourth place) -- and they were also good examples of respectful travelers.

As for them being "pouty" or "po'd," I interpreted their attitude as simple disappointment from very competative racers who almost won. I'm still puzzled as to how so many people took them and all of their skirt-chasing seriously. They made jokes at their own expense the entire race, even after losing. They didn't take themselves seriously, except when it came to racing and being competative. And they never called themselves "frat boys." As Phil indicated, that's a nickname other teams gave them.

But at the end, the hippies pulled it out.

I really wanted RaYo to win, but holy crap, they weren't very good at it during the last two legs. For real, if I were that crappy at navigating, you're damn right I would've, say, made myself look as cute as possible and tried to persuade a nice friendly local to be our guide for the day. That's also why I'd have a stash of sports jerseys/super cute accessories/something fun to give people who are nice.

Not that I can recall if they did it ever in front of the locals, but last night Eric and Jeremy were also "making fun" of the Japanese language. (I'm not trying to start an argument - just point out what I noticed. We can each have our own personal choices for who we're cheering on in these shows :))

I, for one, was also thrilled to see BJ & Tyler win - their outfits this morning were rather interesting, but I truly believe they were having fun throughout the entire race - if that's mugging, then I might have done the same thing had I been in their shoes.

Were they making fun of the Japanese language or making fun of dubbed kung fu/Godzilla movies? But you're exactly right -- we all have our personal choices for who we cheer on, and we probably tend to be more tolerant of our favorites.

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I, for one, was also thrilled to see BJ & Tyler win - their outfits this morning were rather interesting, but I truly believe they were having fun throughout the entire race - if that's mugging, then I might have done the same thing had I been in their shoes.

I enjoyed watching how much fun they had -- that's one reason I won't complain about them winning. What I thought was mugging was how they seemed to overdo it for the cameras -- it was almost like beggin "look at us and how zany/fun/lovable we are." They did it less and less as the race went on -- perhaps because (like all teams) they were getting tired and perhaps because some mistakes and near eliminations injected some seriousness.

Should have mentioned yesterday: what about Ray proposing to Yolanda on The Early Show?

ETA: Just read an interview with Eric and Jeremy on Reality News Online as well as an interview with Ray and Yolanda. (I assume/hope there'll be an interview with BJ and Tyler posted soon -- RNO usually manages to interview most TAR teams.)

According to the interview, Eric is "moving up to New York to continue a relationship with Danielle from the show."

I'm just happy I don't have to look at those orange clown pants or hear "ka-tow" one more time!

Oh, the circle of the universe is gonna get you. It was TTOW, (te-tow, reported without verification to mean "the transcience of wowness").

Yeah, I won't miss that.

I think it may have started out as the "dubbing" (or maybe it's the other way around), but they were saying how that if they "speed up" what they're trying to say the locals won't have as much of a problem understanding what they're saying. I don't know, maybe I'm the only one who took it as making fun :confused: (I didn't mind the dubbing - I thought that was pretty good! :))

I was clapping my hands when Ray was leading up to the proposal - you just had to figure it was coming! :cool:

Oh, I loved that part. What he was saying was that speaking English slowly doesn't help anyone who speaks a different language understand them. You know how some people (including some racers) act like if they just speak slowly enough, then anybody will understand them? Jeremy was just saying, "you know what, that doesn't work."

I thought that was funny since too many people really do seem to think that if they just talk slowly enough . . . .

i love it when people talk slower so people will understand them, lol!

Well, it does work IF the person has some basic understanding of the language. I can understand much of what someone is saying in Spanish IF they speak slowly.

Well, sure. But all too often, you see people act like speaking English (or any language) more slowly will enable someone who doesn't speak it miraculously to understand it.