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valkyrie 04-15-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by babe'sbabe
As an alum of a historically black Law School, I must say that I am not surprised. It saddens me that people look at the name on my law degree and assume that since it came from a historically black law school then it is somehow inferior. Just imagine how they feel when I kick their asses in court. Trial Ad was no joke at NCCU and I am sure Howard is the same way.

I get such pleasure when telling thoses same ignorant asses that I passed the bar on the first try while their top tier educated, had $2500 to pay for Barbri, didn't work while studying, got a job waitin' on me when I pass kid failed it TWICE!

People who are snobs about law schools are lacking in other areas and trying to compensate.

abaici 04-15-2005 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I don't think Howard students in general are of the same potential as Harvard students. I didn't think my school's students were of the same potential either.



I beg to differ. I know of many people who TURN down Ivy League and high-ranked schools to attend the HBCU of their choice (Spelman, Howard, Morehouse, etc.). In addition, a great number of them went on attend Ivy League and high-ranked schools for graduate school.

KSigkid 04-15-2005 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by abaici
I beg to differ. I know of many people who TURN down Ivy League and high-ranked schools to attend the HBCU of their choice (Spelman, Howard, Morehouse, etc.). In addition, a great number of them went on attend Ivy League and high-ranked schools for graduate school.
He said "in general" though. There are a bunch of students that went to my alma mater that turned down Ivy League schools, but I wouldn't compare my school to Harvard.

Interesting thread - I've learned a bit from the back-and-forth so far.

starang21 04-15-2005 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by babe'sbabe
Side bar: How many people actually flunk out of Harvard anyway?
i heard almost half gets A's. not sure how true it is.

ThaBrickHouse 04-15-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by BlueReign
I am special educator. I work with students of special needs. They include:

Learning Disabled (mild autism, dyslexic, dysgraphic, dyscalculic)
Mental Retardation
Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder
Emotional Disturbance
Other Health Impairments

LMAO

ThaBrickHouse 04-15-2005 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth
Competitive-They don't choose everybody. They choose who they want. There were 300+ at my rush. Only 48 were chosen.

Limits-None

You'd have an easier time explaining it to a door!

preciousjeni 04-15-2005 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
i heard almost half gets A's. not sure how true it is.
can't.keep.hands.off.keyboard

starang21 04-15-2005 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
can't.keep.hands.off.keyboard
:confused:

DSTCHAOS 04-15-2005 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
but I wouldn't compare my school to Harvard.


Which means what?

DSTCHAOS 04-15-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
It seems to me that many institutions of higher education turn out equally (and I use the term with some lenience) prepared graduates; however, money buys prestige.
;)

DSTCHAOS 04-15-2005 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The founder of Virgin Media, Richard Branson, still has no high school degree.

Which means what?

DSTCHAOS 04-15-2005 11:57 PM

Re: Re: Don't Lie
 
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Originally posted by Rudey
Actually, Marie, it's you and the others who keep bringing it up, over and over again. I remember trying to get this thread back on course when I asked about school limitations on certain chapter sizes.
^^^ Takes medications to balance personalities.

abaici 04-16-2005 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Which means what?
That he selected the wrong school.

ladygreek 04-16-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
I don't know if this has been explained adequately -- kinda skimmed the rest of the thread....

Unless there is a "line cap" at the particular school, NPHC organizations don't generally have "slots" to fill. People in NPC orgs may still be thinking with the "quota" paradigm.

It's pretty safe to assume that NPHC orgs take as many as they feel like in a given semester, and those initiates are the best of the rush pool at that time.

Furthermore, aside from the tangible factors such as GPA, letters of recommendation, community service....there are also intangible factors that make candidates the best of the applicant pool.

It has been explained adequately more than once. But since you have said it maybe Rudey will now listen.

ladygreek 04-16-2005 12:40 AM

<----- was a National Achievement Scholar finalist, a program implemented for African Americans to balance the playing field since the National Merit Scholarship Program was inherently biased. Two of my co-finalists went to Ivy League schools--one to Harvard, the other to Yale.

The two Scholarship winners turned them down and went to Howard. One (an Omega Man) became the youngest attorney to argue a case before the Supreme Court.

Oh yeah, I attended an historically Black high school in St. Louis--the first one west of the Mississippi River. Most of my teachers were HBCU graduates.

KSigkid 04-17-2005 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Which means what?
It means that my alma mater (as well as Howard, from what I've heard) are good schools, but not necessarily on the same level as a Harvard. That doesn't mean that the students at other schools aren't intelligent and don't have the chance to become quite successful.

It's great the NPHC orgs don't have to worry about quota - I never completely understood it as it applied to sororities at my school. To each their own, and it seems to be working out well for sororities, but I never completely understood the reasoning behind quotas and all that.

Rudey 04-17-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
It has been explained adequately more than once. But since you have said it maybe Rudey will now listen.
Ladygreek, I actually understood that. But if you took the time to figure out what I was asking or perhaps didn't make useless comments about me listening if Senusret speaks (usually I listen when anyone speaks), then you would have known that.

Perhaps you should read my specific question. Heck I will ask it again for you just in case you do not want to read back.

Are the line caps imposed by a school specific to orgs or are they always the same for all orgs?

-Rudey

DSTCHAOS 04-17-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
but not necessarily on the same level as a Harvard.

Because?

ladygreek 04-17-2005 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Ladygreek, I actually understood that. But if you took the time to figure out what I was asking or perhaps didn't make useless comments about me listening if Senusret speaks (usually I listen when anyone speaks), then you would have known that.

Perhaps you should read my specific question. Heck I will ask it again for you just in case you do not want to read back.

Are the line caps imposed by a school specific to orgs or are they always the same for all orgs?

-Rudey

Speaking of useless comments...

starang21 04-17-2005 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
(usually I listen when anyone speaks)
lol

starang21 04-17-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
Speaking of useless comments...
don't worry MsG....it's par for the course for one who possesses a miniscule intellect.



:(

Rudey 04-18-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
Speaking of useless comments...
I see so you had difficulty reading earlier and do not or will not answer the question posed?

-Rudey
--Did you go to Howard?

DSTCHAOS 04-18-2005 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I see so you had difficulty reading earlier and do not or will not answer the question posed?

-Rudey
--Did you go to Howard?

Someone answer this fool's question so he can shut up.

ladygreek 04-18-2005 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Someone answer this fool's question so he can shut up.
LOL, okay but just for you since both of his questions have already been answered.

Rudey,
It is my understanding that a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing.

I stated in my post on page 1 that I did not go to Howard.

Rudey 04-18-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
LOL, okay but just for you since both of his questions have already been answered.

Rudey,
It is my understanding that a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing.

I stated in my post on page 1 that I did not go to Howard.

The school's policy is, of course, applied to all orgs it is addressing. That is the definition of a policy - to address something. This doesn't answer my question.

A school can have a policy that has a line limit of 5 women for DST and a line limit of 10 for AKA and in that case "a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing."

A school can have a policy that has a line limit of 10 women for DST and a line limit of 10 for AKA and in that case "a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing."

-Rudey
--Perhaps you attended school with a lower 6 year graduation rate?

Marie 04-18-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by babe'sbabe
The national organization does not set limits on the number of members that they can accept. However, the school can and a lot of times does. That is why you will not find it listed on the nation sites. Also, in the situation where the school does not set a limit on the number of applicants that an org can take, then the chapter may exercise their discretion based on several factors. Does your org accept every PNM? I didn't think so?

I believe that this question was addressed here.

Rudey 04-18-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Marie
I believe that this question was addressed here.
Marie, you believe wrong.

I am asking about school imposed limits and if they differ from chapter to chapter. That post you quoted did not address that.

-Rudey
--This is why people should strive to attend schools with higher rankings

DSTCHAOS 04-18-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
A school can have a policy that has a line limit of 5 women for DST and a line limit of 10 for AKA and in that case "a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing."

A school can have a policy that has a line limit of 10 women for DST and a line limit of 10 for AKA and in that case "a school's policy applies to all of the orgs it is addressing."

At many schools, the AKAs and Deltas are more likely to have over a certain number per line as compared to the fraternities and other 2 sororities. So, if these schools have caps, the line caps operate across the board but are assumed to only apply to certain organizations. Having varying line caps often defeats the purpose of a line cap.

Perhaps Rudey needs to contact Howard's Greek Life office.

ladygreek 04-18-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
-Rudey
--Perhaps you attended school with a lower 6 year graduation rate?

LOL, I see you really don't want answers, you just like to agitate.

babe'sbabe 04-18-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Marie, you believe wrong.

I am asking about school imposed limits and if they differ from chapter to chapter. That post you quoted did not address that.

-Rudey
--This is why people should strive to attend schools with higher rankings

Well then, I will address it.

The school, if it choses, sets the MAXIMUM number that ANY org can take, and then the org has the discretion to accept any number of members up to that MAXIMUM number. However, this is a GENERAL explaination. Anything more specific would have to come from the Greek Affairs office of the campus in question.

NB: there may be different caps for IFC/NPC orgs and NPHC orgs to account for the difference in rush procedures and policies.

Rudey 04-18-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by babe'sbabe
Well then, I will address it.

The school, if it choses, sets the MAXIMUM number that ANY org can take, and then the org has the discretion to accept any number of members up to that MAXIMUM number. However, this is a GENERAL explaination. Anything more specific would have to come from the Greek Affairs office of the campus in question.

NB: there may be different caps for IFC/NPC orgs and NPHC orgs to account for the difference in rush procedures and policies.

OK but in your experience, or from what you heard, you are saying that a school can different impose line limits for each NPHC org at the same time?

So, for example, they have previously had a limit of 10 on one org and 5 on another, etc.?

-Rudey

Rudey 04-18-2005 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
LOL, I see you really don't want answers, you just like to agitate.
Are you married?

-Rudey

ladygreek 04-18-2005 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Are you married?

-Rudey

Why? Are you?

Rudey 04-18-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
Why? Are you?
I am not, but I am also kinda young.

I was just wondering.

I am all about peace, love, and understanding and I want to understand where you are coming from.

-Rudey

Tom Earp 04-18-2005 07:25 PM

For those that dont know and want to talk trash, LXA was just Chartered at U N A & T, a Historical Black School.

The Young Men had help from The NPHC GLOs.

So, there is more than just talking Stuff.:)

My Congratulations go out to not only The New Chapter of LXA, but the Members of all GLOs on Campus.:cool:

Relations that work among Greeks!:)

DSTCHAOS 04-18-2005 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
For those that dont know and want to talk trash, LXA was just Chartered at U N A & T, a Historical Black School.

The Young Men had help from The NPHC GLOs.

So, there is more than just talking Stuff.:)

My Congratulations go out to not only The New Chapter of LXA, but the Members of all GLOs on Campus.:cool:

Relations that work among Greeks!:)

Congratulations to them.

There seems to be a hidden point to this post, though.

CarolinaCutie 04-18-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
For those that dont know and want to talk trash, LXA was just Chartered at U N A & T, a Historical Black School.

The Young Men had help from The NPHC GLOs.

So, there is more than just talking Stuff.:)

My Congratulations go out to not only The New Chapter of LXA, but the Members of all GLOs on Campus.:cool:

Relations that work among Greeks!:)

The A&T Lambda Chis are so awesome. But honestly, it's not very pertinent to this dialogue. If we were discussing a NIC/IFC type organization chartering at Howard, that would be relevant.

starang21 04-18-2005 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
Why? Are you?
i think a straight woman would rather drink rat poison and stab needles in her eyeballs.

ladygreek 04-18-2005 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
i think a straight woman would rather drink rat poison and stab needles in her eyeballs.
Hey! You might be spoiling my hook up. :rolleyes: :D

ladygreek 04-18-2005 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I am all about peace, love, and understanding
-Rudey

Really? Cool.


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