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ZTAngel 03-29-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Hold up right there.....


Don't put Disney and Key West in "The South" category, because they're not. Florida is not "The South". Memphis and Atlanta type of cities are nothing like Miami, Key West, Ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach, Delray Beach, Boca Raton, Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, Ft. Myers, St. Pete or Clearwater. :rolleyes: Florida is in it's own category. Thats like saying southern california is south-western.

Those cities aren't southern but if you listed Jacksonville, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Lakeland, Lake City, Kissimmee, Gainesville, Hawthorne, Cross City, Inverness, etc. then you'd be talking about some real southern cities. They might not have the cultural southern significance as Birmingham or Atlanta but whenever I've traveled to any of those cities, I feel like I've stepped into South Georgia or Alabama.

IowaStatePhiPsi- I haven't heard about the restaurant you are referring to. Where was it located?

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
so when I travel to Florida from Iowa I head north?
Didn't Florida have a town that just a few years ago still had white-only dining rooms in their restaurants?
Sounds South enough for me.


Look, Florida is different. You don't have people south of Orlando talking like they're from Alabama, Mississippi or Georgia. We don't sound like white trash. And if you're thinking of places in the panhandle, thats not even really Florida. We just decided to call it Florida where the nice beaches stop, which is the Alabama state line. :D And Iowa, you're calling Iowa northern? Thats thats straight up mid-west. Obviously you havent been here for any length of time to be able to tell the difference to understand what I'm talking about. Thats like saying Los Angeles and San Diego are south-west as if they belong in Arizona, Nevada or New Mexico. :rolleyes:

Rudey 03-29-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Look, Florida is different. You don't have people south of Orlando talking like they're from Alabama, Mississippi or Georgia. We don't sound like white trash. And if you're thinking of places in the panhandle, thats not even really Florida. We just decided to call it Florida where the nice beaches stop, which is the Alabama state line. :D And Iowa, you're calling Iowa northern? Thats thats straight up mid-west. Obviously you havent been here for any length of time to be able to tell the difference to understand what I'm talking about. Thats like saying Los Angeles and San Diego are south-west as if they belong in Arizona, Nevada or New Mexico. :rolleyes:
Yeah. I don't get it. You have folks from Iowa now jumping on the state snobbery bandwagon.

-Rudey

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
Those cities aren't southern but if you listed Jacksonville, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Lakeland, Lake City, Kissimmee, Gainesville, Hawthorne, Cross City, Inverness, etc. then you'd be talking about some real southern cities. They might not have the cultural southern significance as Birmingham or Atlanta but whenever I've traveled to any of those cities, I feel like I've stepped into South Georgia or Alabama.

Thats why I didnt list those cities.


I don't know if you'd really say Gainesville feels like Alabama or South-Georgia when you go there. 3/5 of the town are students, and over 1/2 of those are from cities from Orlando on down to Key West.

ZTAngel 03-29-2005 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney

I don't know if you'd really say Gainesville feels like Alabama or South-Georgia when you go there. 3/5 of the town are students, and over 1/2 of those are from cities from Orlando on down to Key West.

The college area of Gainesville isn't southern but if you step a few miles out of the UF radius, it's all cow pastures and barns. My roommate freshman year was from Hawthorne. She told me stories of her chickens, cows and horses that were on her farm and how her best friend got run over by a tractor. :confused: My suitemates and I were South Florida girls. We corrupted her. heh heh

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-29-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Thats like saying Los Angeles and San Diego are south-west as if they belong in Arizona, Nevada or New Mexico. :rolleyes:
That's west coast. :rolleyes:

WCUgirl 03-29-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Hold up right there.....


Don't put Disney and Key West in "The South" category, because they're not. Florida is not "The South". Memphis and Atlanta type of cities are nothing like Miami, Key West, Ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach, Delray Beach, Boca Raton, Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, Ft. Myers, St. Pete or Clearwater. :rolleyes: Florida is in it's own category. Thats like saying southern california is south-western.

THANK YOU!

For those of you who argue that FL is Southern - go live somewhere else in the South for a while, like NC or GA or AL, and then tell me what you think. I will concede that there are parts of FL that are Southern-like (such as the area outside of Gville as ZTAngel mentioned, and St. Auggie, and down 321 through Ocala, and of course, the redneck riviera, er, the panhandle ;) ), but they are not Southern the way Charleston, Savannah, ATL, etc. are.

For college, I went North, but actually went further South. They sure do love to ridicule me for being from FL. My favorite FL joke is being told that my home state needs to break off and float back up to New York where it belongs. :D

ETA: IowaStatePhiPsi - I haven't heard of that restaurant either. Do you have a link or remember where it was located?

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
The college area of Gainesville isn't southern but if you step a few miles out of the UF radius, it's all cow pastures and barns. My roommate freshman year was from Hawthorne. She told me stories of her chickens, cows and horses that were on her farm and how her best friend got run over by a tractor. :confused: My suitemates and I were South Florida girls. We corrupted her. heh heh

lol....well, "outside" of the Gainesville/UF area.....thats called Alachua. And yes, thats country/southern as fuck. I got lost out there one time and my cell phone didnt work. There was no reception being as there were no towers in the area. :o But I will give north florida this, it is some of the most beautiful land Ive ever seen. Have you ever been to something like the Itchetutnee (sp?) river basin? Its a spring-fed river that goes on and on forever. Its like being in a different world. I was floating down it once and I swear I felt like I was floating down some perfect paradise.


And yea, South Florida girls corrupt anything they come across. ;)

ZTAngel 03-29-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
And yea, South Florida girls corrupt anything they come across. ;)
No comment. :o

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
No comment. :o


South Florida boys are a lot worse. Ever see what happens when a guy from Palm Beach meets a girl from Lake City? Its pretty funny, the girl from Lake City can't stay off of him. :D

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-29-2005 05:41 PM

http://tinypic.com/2i2rn7

valkyrie 03-29-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
http://tinypic.com/2i2rn7
I thought south went farther north than that?

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
http://tinypic.com/2i2rn7


Well, according to that map, I guess there's no such thing as pacific north-west. :rolleyes:


I can see the resmblence between Anchorage and Los Angeles.

cashmoney 03-29-2005 05:58 PM

I'm about to leave and go to the beach while Iowa plays in his corn fields. :D



-Anyone else in Florida notice how nice of a day it is?

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-29-2005 05:58 PM

All the states I listed as North and Northeast were Union states.
I listed Kentucky and Missouri as South even though they were part of the North because those two (along with Maryland and Delaware) had slaves.

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-29-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
I'm about to leave and go to the beach while Iowa plays in his corn fields. :D



-Anyone else in Florida notice how nice of a day it is?

80 out today here.

ZTAngel 03-29-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
-Anyone else in Florida notice how nice of a day it is?
First time in over a week that there's not huge thunderstorms in the area besides a 2 hour period on Sunday afternoon.

There's not a cloud in the sky! :)

WCUgirl 03-29-2005 06:02 PM

One could argue that WV (well, at least the Southern half of WV) is Southern.

valkyrie 03-29-2005 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by AXiD670
One could argue that WV (well, at least the Southern half of WV) is Southern.
Every time I hear about WV, I think of that Pittsnogle kid. I'll pittsnogle you!

BobbyTheDon 03-29-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Every time I hear about WV, I think of that Pittsnogle kid. I'll pittsnogle you!
ShaedyKD wants to have his babies. And Mike Gansby too.

Lil' Hannah 03-29-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I thought south went farther north than that?
Is this more what you were thinking of?

http://tinypic.com/2i3dkj

ShaedyKD 03-29-2005 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
ShaedyKD wants to have his babies. And Mike Gansby too.
It's Mike Gansey, get it right or pay the price.

valkyrie 03-29-2005 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
ShaedyKD wants to have his babies. And Mike Gansby too.
Pittsnogle!? He looks like his spawn would have webbed feet.

Now, this guy isn't bad:

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/Beilein-Patrick.jpg

valkyrie 03-29-2005 06:17 PM

OH NO YOU DIIN'T!

Rudey 03-29-2005 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
All the states I listed as North and Northeast were Union states.
I listed Kentucky and Missouri as South even though they were part of the North because those two (along with Maryland and Delaware) had slaves.

Your criteria for being Southern is owning slaves and those are the only Northern states you want to include as the South??

-Rudey
--Take a stroll through Massachusetts and look at the old houses made with bricks brought over on slave ships

Dionysus 03-29-2005 06:49 PM

nevermind

33girl 03-29-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Is this more what you were thinking of?

http://tinypic.com/2i3dkj

um no :p

there has to be a "fries on salad" corollary to all this.

krazy 03-29-2005 07:45 PM

http://www.ycsi.net/users/reversespins/pollution.jpg

Vs.

http://www.charleston.com/slideshow/images/battery2.jpg


You decide.

Peaches-n-Cream 03-29-2005 07:46 PM

I have never seen anything that looks like the top photo. Where is that?

The bottom photo is very tempting. :)

Rudey 03-29-2005 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I have never seen anything that looks like the top photo. Where is that?

The bottom photo is very tempting. :)

The top photo is either Gary, IN or Newark, NJ.

-Rudey

Tom Earp 03-29-2005 08:11 PM

Heck with N-S, what about East and West?;)

Screw Cal. Nice place to visit. Cant afford to live there!

Now getting back to Origninal Post.

E and W did have a dillererbrate Division on Starting GLOs.

Hello, are we back on track yet?:p

ADqtPiMel 03-29-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Is this more what you were thinking of?

http://tinypic.com/2i3dkj

Lil' Hannah, you so crazy.

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-29-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Your criteria for being Southern is owning slaves and those are the only Northern states you want to include as the South??

-Rudey
--Take a stroll through Massachusetts and look at the old houses made with bricks brought over on slave ships

I included them as South because there's a distinct culture of laziness that developed in slave states and it is quite present in Missouri and Kentucky.

Rudey 03-29-2005 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I included them as South because there's a distinct culture of laziness that developed in slave states and it is quite present in Missouri and Kentucky.
Distinct culture of laziness? What the heck are you talking about?

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 03-29-2005 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Is this more what you were thinking of?

http://tinypic.com/2i3dkj

OMGWTFBBQMSPAINT!

honeychile 03-30-2005 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Is this more what you were thinking of?

http://tinypic.com/2i3dkj

LOL - kddani & 33girl will just love that!

kstar 03-30-2005 02:29 AM

About the map...

Totally random, but OK should be in either the Southwest or the South.

The Eastern part of the state, especially in the rural areas, remain staunchly in the Southern culture and traditions, just like some of Texas.

Most geography texts put Oklahoma in the Southwest with Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona though, due to weather, culture, et cetera.

Tom Earp 03-30-2005 07:45 PM

Texas is a country all its own!:rolleyes:

Hell, Middle part of country is Ks., Mo, Iowa, Oaklahoma, Ark., N. S. Dakota, Minn., Neb., Western Ill. and E. Colo.

Well, my perception anyway.

Anything West of Denver, South, to Mexico and The Pacific is West.

Actually, Mid Mo. is the dividing line so many ways, East, West-North, South. You have to know History to understand that.:)


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