I can't find a picture, but the UCF Pi Phi's arrow sign looked like this:

Take your right hand and place it over your heart in a fist. Leave your thumb and pointer finger out of the fist, pointing upward.

Thanks. That is a lot simpler than what I pictured it to be.

After the post about all of the sororities at UCF having signs, I checked the websites of the individual chapters at UCF:

http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ucfpan/ourchapters.htm

It's pretty easy to find all of the handsigns in various places on those sites. I have to say, the Zeta crown is my favorite, it just looks awesome.

Very. :rolleyes:

That's what it looked like to me too. :( :o

Serious question: Did y'all attend a PWI or HBCU?

LOL a PWI.

Oh ok.

Hush up when grown folks are typing.

Don't front like you all get the utmost respect and recognition at all HBCUs. :D

I didn't sit around and "analyze your siggie". I honestly thought (and still think) you suffer from schizophrenia. And toolbagitis b/c you used the word "fresh" in your post. Have fun hanging out with your "isms" after flute practice today. Do you and your brothers all watch "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" re-runs together? Cause that would be fresh....

LMAO!!!!:D I'm sorry Mr. KKY. That ish was funny. Oh, does it matter where someone attended school? All I know is where I come from people aren't beating down the doors at a band frat party.:cool: Much respect though. I saw Drumline. ;)

I attended a PWI, and I see your point. Gamma Sigma Sigma exists at several campuses (sp?) in Georgia including UGA, Clark Atlanta University, and Spelman College. I know I've seen pictures of CAU Gamma Sigs throwing up their handsign, but I don't know any Gamma Sigs from UGA - black, white, etc - who ran around campus throwing handsigns, doing calls, or wearing jackets.

At the same time, KKPsi should adopt their own thing. (IMO, most of the all/mostly black chapters of orgs non-NPHC orgs should not try to fit in with NPHC behavior by doing what we do when you are not who we are. But we've already been there in that Howard Pike thread.) I know your handsign is similar to Phi Beta Sigma's. I don't see the difference, but if KKPsi and PBS see the difference, that's fine. What's not cool is your bruh because he's throwing up KKPsi sign as if he's throwing up somebody else's hook. I don't see Kappas or Alphas throwing up their signs in anything like a hook. :rolleyes:

*gasp* So it isn't just about HBCU vs. PWI? :eek:

:)

ROTFLMAO that XiDelt got in ya!!!

"I saw Drumline"...(PinkiesUp I think...) on the floor again....

And your purpose for typing this was for.....?

I never said we did. And to be honest, I really don't care.

Drumline was a travesty.

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. :cool: Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you. :rolleyes:

Wow, you're pretty good at that! Maybe you can ride mine next. ;)

My husband, Mr. Xidelt, thinks you are a foul-mouthed loser who should not be addressing ladies like that. However, I'll just let you continue throwing your bootleg handsigns with all of your aliases, isms, multiple personalities, etc.

Wow!!! He does?!?! :rolleyes:

I think we need to rename this thread the Donnie Darko thread because I'm pretty sure I've seen this discussion before.

*Hork Hork* That was funny.:rolleyes:

Sure you do. ;)

^^^ doesn't care what people think of his org

;)

What do you consider "old school"?

No matter how old your "traditions" are in your org, it will always seem to others that your org simply saw things that other folks were doing and said "that looks cool, lets do it too!". I've attended 2 PWI's and visited many others, and I've never seen those chapters with handsigns, calls, line names, etc. But mysteriously, chapters at HBCUs want to imitate what they see D9 orgs do. I don't know if its a case of "I didn't make line for XYZ so I'll take the next best thing" or you simply want to fit in with everyone else.

Yeah, I said it...You look like copycats.

Ay!! Don't be bringin' Gamma Sig in this mess!! :p :p :p

@Soul D-Psi-ple: Dude, you don't have to explain anything. You'll get nowhere, trust me. Sounds like you are cool bein in KKPsi. So keep doin you, and your bruhs will keep doin them. That's why threads like this get so long....doing a lot of unecessary explaining and at the end of the day, real talk, some people are STILL gonna say and think that your org is fake, it's biting off other orgs, etc.

Not an attack on you but chill out. If anybody feel you, I feel you. But I learned a long time ago that it ain't worth it to trip in here off of every little thing...

Sorry, Gamma_girl52, but that's the only real example that I have. I'm not gonna lie about seeing a predominately white chapter of KKPsi because I haven't.

Your words are wise. All Greeks have to deal with some form of criticism and KIM instead of trying to defend it. I'm still learning that to some degree, but I'm not getting into an insult fest over it. I just post my observations.

Well, it's not really my image to post, but I was curious about this whole thing, so I looked up the KKPsi chapter at my undergrad ... here they are, in all their PWI-ness, doing the handsigns ...

http://harmony.gatech.edu/iota/modul...2/image_96.jpg

ROTFL @ PWI-ness. What a cromulent use of words.

Are you kidding me? All that text and other responses, and you want US to not be so insecure??? Mmmmmmhmm. I've spoken to members of PBS, and they notice the similarities, but they let it go. So I don't harbor resentment (wow...I said that the first time).

By now, you know that the GC community notices a lot about our Greek lettered cultures, and we discuss and debate them. We made notice of KKPsi and made observations, but no one is taking it as seriously as you are. Again, let your own insecurities go.

Thanks for the documentation. I like learning. :D

It is all good. I had to learn that lesson the hard way, not just on GC but on other boards too. It's fine for other Greeks to observe or say how they feel, I actually encourage that. But it's another thing to go back and forth tryin to explain all of the time. I don't do that anymore. I still know Gamma Sigs who will wear a thread like this OUT. I have had to tell them to chill out.

And I'd also have to laugh at "PWI-ness" :D but ok...now that the GA Tech pic is up that ought to squash that.

I'm with Soul-D-Psi-ple. I started a chapter of KKPsi. It's a group with ties going back over a hundred years. I know other orgs are old, too, but KKPsi isn't new, we're not copying anybody. I'll admit, we're all band members and geeky ones at that but if we're okay with telling everyone that, I think that y'all making fun of it is a little overkill.

Just because you don't respect KKPsi doesn't mean we don't.

The pic is cute and all, but I seriously doubt that 30 years ago the KKPsi's at Tech were sitting around and said "Hey, we need a handsign!". More than likely they saw another chapter (most likely a HBCU chapter) doing it and adopted it. Still seems like imitation to me.

I just had this vision of them all going to national conventions or something and all the HBCU chapters sitting on one side of the room and all the PWI chapters on the other side and they're all looking at each other like WTH is wrong with THEM?!?! I'm glad there's some amount of unity there.

LOL.

Quite a few IFC and NPC organizations have almost always had handsigns and calls. They were to be used in certain, mostly more private, settings. The same MAY be for KKPsi. I will be humored regardless.

"Yeah, I said it....You look like copycats"

I bet you screamed that at your monitor while you typed it. "YEA, I SAID IT!!!" LOL Gone 'head girl! Tell 'em why you mad!!!