Originally Posted by beverysure (Post 1285491)

Man made churches got all kinds of rules and regulations confirmations and ordinations But when you are touched by the master JESUS CHRIST rivers of living water will flow out of your belly. I know little kids who preach. All saints, thats born again believers, are preachers.:)
Where did Paul who has written most of the new testament learn how to do what he did after he got knocked off that horse?:cool:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363390)

You're a storefront preacher. That's fine if that's what you want because anyone can "preach." But I wouldn't attend a church with a storefront preacher at the pulpit.

Originally Posted by PHA_luv (Post 1363518)

:eek: Lol

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1363541)

I'm not trying to be funny but I stay away from anyone who acts like they were struck with Holy lightening and suddenly became ordained.

I say give me a pastor who has formal training in the Bible as Scripture AND the Bible as literature. I don't want someone who is too "religious" or spiritual to see logic and I don't want someone who is too logical to see "religion" and The Spirit. Give me someone with a spiritually ordained balance. Blacks have come a long way from when we were mostly uneducated and just accepted anyone's word on the Word.

Originally Posted by BlessedKMJ (Post 1739649)

Yes, I read the thread but if I wasn't still confused I woudn't have asked. Some people tell me that I don't need affiliation but only a petition from masons and others tell me differently. For this reason, I am still asking the question; do you have to have family affiliation to join? Thank you.

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1739664)

Originally Posted by laurent (Post 1766498)

Does anyone know the difference between OES and Mechanics?

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1766587)

http://iuomwh.org/

After doing a quick search, the short answer is that Mechanism is very similar to Freemasonry but not the same. I had never heard of it until you mentioned it.

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1790425)

Thanks to a news item about headstones from black cemeteries in DC, I learned of a black women's organization called the United Order of Tents.

I figured it would be best to put it here.

Originally Posted by chocolate_drop (Post 1824740)

Originally Posted by sherrie (Post 1816866)

Im interested in becoming a Eastern Star but don't know how to go about getting information on joining can some one help me?

Originally Posted by PrinceHall (Post 1261982)

I hail from:
Eureka Lodge #16 F&AM-PHA
Flint,MI
Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Michigan/Jurisdiciton


I've seen some real interesting comments in this intresting thread.
for aspirants of the Order of Eastern Star: for every OES chapter and grand chapter of each state/jurisdiction,there's a lodge and grand lodge for each one..well...there's suppose to be. No OES grand or local chapter can "work" or conduct business without being under a properly chartered lodge or Grand Lodge;Eastern Stars can't conduct meetings or anything w/o a mason(s) present. The OES is actually a unisex group,because men that are masons in good standing can be apart of the OES;they just have to take their degrees as well. You must be 18 to join,you must have a "bloodline",and fit other qualifications of getting voted in. Like someone mentioned on here before,there are some state/jurisdictions that have what we call an "open bloodline" session(i.e. Georgia has an "open bloodline" session two months out of the year);some states/jurisdictions have "open bloodline" period now (i.e. Texas..from what I was told).



Eventhough Masonry is bigger than affiliation(dont just look at it affiliation wise),there are three types of masonry in the U.S.,you have:
Predominately white 'Mainstream' Masons (F&AM/AF&AM) and OES,Prince Hall Affiliation Masons (F&AM) and OES,and Prince Hall Origin-National Compact (F&AAYM) and OES. P.H.O. is still working on being officially recognized from what I was told...I only know little bit about them. 'Mainstream' (or predominately white)Masonry was brought to the U.S. in the early 1700's,under the authority of the United Grand Lodge of England. Prince Hall (or Predominately black) Masonry was established in the U.S. in Boston,MS in 1775 and chartered in 1784. The first lodge for African-Americans is African lodge #459 a year after Prince Hall and fourteen other black men (the "immortal 15") were raised in a white military lodge in boston named Irish Lodge #441...you go read the rest. And find research the history of OES...when it was establised,why,etc..


ALL of the properly chartered,"regular", and/or recognized Grand and Local Lodges/OES chapters of the U.S. work under the United Grand Lodge of England. but all in all, do more research on the order;find out who Prince Hall was why/when Prince Hall Masonry was establised in the U.S....everything. Don't just go to any ol' lodge or OES chapter,because you might "come up short"...don't think that everything you see is real.


And with Masonry being the biggest Fraternity in the world,there's Masons and Eastern stars in other countries;They have their own Grand and Local lodges as well.

OES is also known to be "the Mother of ALL"...
Which founders from AKA,DST,ZPB,and SGR where members of the OES before they found those 4 beautiful BGLO's? I don't know...I'm still trying to find info on that.

I'm through for now...

Originally Posted by 5stars (Post 1869712)

can u please tell me how i can find my local OES chapter for Detroit, Michigan...