Re: Back in the Day Fact: Alicia Keys
 

This is one of my FAVORITE episodes! Unfortunately, it's been so long, all I remember is Peter (my favorite, lol). Thanks for the info, though, that's cool!!

Re: Re: Back in the Day Fact: Alicia Keys
 

My mama loved some Peter!!!!!

Mike and his buddies
 

Mike Tyson in the news, once again. From the New York Post:

TYSON HIT WITH SLUG RAP

By MURRAY WEISS and BILL HOFFMANN
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December 18, 2001 -- An ex-Golden Gloves boxer claims Mike Tyson gave him a beating after he poked fun at the former champ's posse of women.
Mitchell Rose yesterday filed a complaint with police, charging Tyson with assault in front of the Sugar Hill Disco and Restaurant in Brooklyn. Cops were investigating, but had pressed no charges as of last night.

The melee occurred early Sunday, after Iron Mike and his entourage had sipped champagne at the club, at 609 DeKalb Ave. in Bedford-Stuyvesant.

Rose told The Post that as Tyson left, Rose quipped, "Look at Tyson. Jesus, this guy likes to talk to chickenheads!" That's an unflattering term for women.

"He heard that and it infuriated him. He came charging at me and grabbed me by the neck," said Rose, who added Tyson ripped his $5,000 mink coat and injured his neck.

Tyson's lawyer, Darrow Soll, said interviews with witnesses prove Tyson is innocent.

But Rose is firm. "It was total disrespect. He overreacted to one little lousy joke. I told Mike, ‘If you want to start a holy war, so be it,' " he said.

Just 12 hours after the Brooklyn bust-up, Tyson was seen strolling Manhattan with his sister Jackie, when he gave the thrill of a lifetime to a 15-year- old boy selling M&Ms.

Stephen Smith of The Bronx couldn't believe it when Tyson approached him outside the Trump International Hotel, handed him $100 for one pack and told him to keep the change.

Lawdhamercy. A mink coat? :eek: :eek:

Re: Re: Don't know if you heard
 

They were on Oprah today...I am so slow about these things but anyway.

Michelle is my girl. She will be doing a gospel album. I pray that it spreads the gospel of JESUS CHRIST so that people can get saved.

According to "Knowledge" on The Russ Parr Morning Show, Ronald(Mr Biggs) Isley and Angela Winbush have gotten divorced. :(

Re: Back in the Day Fact: Alicia Keys
 

I just recently saw that episode and didn't realize that it was her.

Re: Re: Re: Don't know if you heard
 

HC Michelle's mother wasn't seated next to the Knowles'?
HC she (Michelle's mom) kept peeking over Oprah's head to get "on TV"?
HC I didn't think that was fair?:(

HC you are right
HC I just remembered seeing her doing that
HC she was pressed for some air time and all the did was have her stand and sit down

I didn't see the episode in it's entirety... did they sing anything other than Beyoncé's "Silent Night" feature? I think Kelly and Michelle got to pick up their microphones a grand total of maybe three times that I saw.

How come this is turning in to another "how come" thread?
How come, soror, how come? :D

Big ol' handsome Denzel Washington
 

From the Los Angeles Times, what Denzel Washington's been up to:

Sunday, December 30, 2001

MOVIES
Real Training Days
Denzel Washington commits to film Antwone Fisher's life, as the director as well as its star.

By BETH LASKI

SAN DIEGO—He's played a Civil War soldier, a coach battling racism, a wrongly imprisoned boxer, an ambulance-chasing attorney, a controversial black Muslim leader and, most recently, a corrupt Los Angeles police officer.
During the past two decades, Denzel Washington's work in films such as "Glory," "Remember the Titans," "The Hurricane," "Philadelphia," "Malcolm X" and "Training Day" has earned him an Academy Award, a host of other awards, and a reputation as a focused, intense and uncompromising actor. It also seems to have prepared him well for his latest role: first-time director.
On location at the North Island Navy base in San Diego on a cloudy mid-November day, Washington grasps his chin, elbow to knee, as an uncomfortable scene unfolds on the monitor before him between a troubled and frustrated young man (newcomer Derek Luke) and his would-be girlfriend (model-turned-actress Joy Bryant).
"Good, cut," he says of an early take. Soon after, however, the distant hum of a jet engine and the subtle change in lighting from passing clouds prompt takes five, six, seven and eight. "Print that one," he finally says of take nine.
For his directorial debut, Washington, 47, has chosen to tell the real-life story of Antwone Fisher, an abandoned and abused young black man who turns his life around, mostly due to the discipline he learned while serving for 11 years in the Navy and the guidance of a Navy psychiatrist, played by Washington.
Directing while starring in a film has proved rigorous for Washington.
"I really didn't enjoy acting and directing. I don't think that's something I'd do again," he says. "I'm not the kind of actor who just steps in, and there's not much time to prepare as an actor. You can't give 100% to both things."
But after seeing editor Conrad Buff's first cut of the $12.5-million-budgeted film, currently known only as "The Untitled Antwone Fisher Story," in mid-December, Washington is relieved, even enthusiastic.
"Whoo. It's pretty good," he says moments after walking out of the West Los Angeles editing room. "Very emotional. I've seen other first cuts of films that I've acted in, and this is a really good cut."
"It exceeded my expectations on every level," adds producer Todd Black, who was at Washington's side during the shoot and was there in the editing room to see the first cut. "Denzel came in every day and knew exactly what he wanted. He had directed the movie in his head over the years."
Fisher's story begins with his prison birth to a mother who then deserted him. His father died at the hands of another woman two months before Fisher was born. Fisher's life took him through the foster care system, where, he said, he was physically and sexually abused and neglected, and then to a shelter for homeless boys, where he lived when he graduated from high school. At that point, he knew none of his family.
After his best friend was shot dead in front of him, Fisher was homeless, had no close friends or family, and decided to join the Navy. It was in the service that he met a psychiatrist who pushed him to read and learn. At the suggestion of his therapist, Fisher later went on a quest to confront his painful past by finding his relatives.
His life story is triumphant, as is the nine-year journey Fisher took with Black to make a movie about his life. The unlikely pair met through a screenwriting class—started after the 1992 L.A. riots—at Bethel AME Church in South-Central Los Angeles. Fisher was taking the course, taught by Chris Smith, Black's college roommate.
After hearing Fisher's story, Black and Black's former producing partner, director Randa Haines, dipped into their own pockets to cover Fisher's expenses so he could quit his job as a security guard on the Sony Pictures Entertainment lot in Culver City and focus on writing the script. Black and Fisher took their movie idea to executives at 20th Century Fox (where Black and Haines shared a first-look producing deal), but their pitch was turned down.
Undeterred, the budding writer gave Black a 150-page handwritten first draft on yellow legal-sized paper. Fisher had read the Oscar-winning scripts for "Ordinary People" and "Terms of Endearment" to help him understand the format and art of screenwriting.
Black and Fisher worked closely over the next year on the script's development. About 40 drafts later, Fox executives purchased the script in August 1994. Black and Fisher then waded through dozens of rewrites, which led to years of dashed hopes. The project would get hot and then not. They brought in other screenwriters and then went back to Fisher's earlier drafts. The project was on the fast track, and then the studio tried to offload it. "It's been dead and alive at Fox many times," Black admits.
The perennial optimist, Fisher never gave up hope that his story would be told. "I kept the belief," he says. "Part of trying to be successful is believing."
Ultimately, the script found a home at the studio's specialty division, Fox Searchlight, where executive Joe Pichirallo, responded strongly to the material.
"This is a very positive, classic underdog story," says Pichirallo, who has worked on the project for more than four years. "It's about a guy who succeeds against all odds. It's the premise of many successful Hollywood films, but this one is a very personal, human story. It sends the message that if you don't give up and believe in a dream, you can succeed."
The "Untitled Antwone Fisher Story" opens with Fisher, then a 24-year-old sailor, being sent to the Navy psychiatrist because of his violent outbursts, which lead to fights with shipmates. Refusing at first to speak to the therapist, the young man eventually reveals details of his horrific childhood. In the end, both men benefit. Fisher learns he cannot change his past but can make a difference in his future.

Black put Fisher's script in Washington's hands about five years ago, offering him the role of Dr. Jerome Davenport, the fictional name of Fisher's psychiatrist. "The story was so powerful, and the individual is so powerful," Washington says. "That was the real reason I got involved and stuck around."
But Washington told Black he would rather direct. The studio and Black wanted both. "We talked about other actors, but I knew there was not a better actor for the role," Black said. "In my heart I knew that I wanted him to do it, and in my heart I knew I would get him."
But it became increasingly difficult to find a window when Washington could step behind the camera, as he was committed to back-to-back acting jobs.
In Toronto in September 2000, Washington was before the cameras for the as-yet unreleased "John Q" (due in theaters Feb. 15) when Fox Searchlight President Peter Rice and Pichirallo pressed him for a firm commitment.
"We thought we were making the movie, and then we got put behind two other movies," Rice said. "It made us nervous."
Washington was resolute about making the film. He gave his word. Then he grabbed a napkin and put it writing. "I promised that Antwone Fisher's would be the next film I'd do after 'Training Day,'" Washington said. "So [Rice[ kept it. I think he still has it."
Back on North Island, a mustached and gum-chewing Washington is calling the shots as he nears the end of the 39-day shoot. Dressed in black nylon jogging pants, a T-shirt, windbreaker, sneakers and a baseball cap emblazoned with the Navy insignia of the 820-foot amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood, Washington has worn much of this casual ensemble for 33 days running.
The on-the-set sartorial style is a page he's borrowed from directors with whom he's worked, such as "Crimson Tide's" Tony Scott, who can often be seen on the sets of his films clad in shorts and a signature pink baseball cap. "Superstition, I guess," says Washington, who has adopted a lot of what he has learned over 20 years as an actor in 30 films.
Although Washington says nothing in his life compares with the string of traumas suffered by Fisher, he did have a foster brother and sister, and knows the importance of mentoring both personally through the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and professionally.
He has had the advantage of picking up tips for his new role as director from some of the world's most talented ones: Norman Jewison, Sidney Lumet, Richard Attenborough, Ed Zwick, Spike Lee, Phillip Noyce and the late Alan Pakula. He recently spent some time with his "Philadelphia" director, Jonathan Demme, in Demme's editing room in New York. "I just wanted to kind of hang around for a couple of days with him, tap his brain a little bit, show him some scenes and ask him some questions," Washington says.
Washington's latest acting role as a dirty cop in Warner Bros.' "Training Day" is meanwhile earning him considerable Oscar buzz. The riveting performance has already garnered nominations for a Golden Globe and the American Film Institute's inaugural AFI Awards 2001 as well as awards from the Los Angeles and Boston film critics.

Fisher, 42, went on to become a well-paid screenwriter who has done rewrites on such films as "Money Talks" and "Rush Hour," as well as the author of a memoir, "Finding Fish," published by William Morrow earlier this year and released in paperback this month.
"The Navy saved my life," says Fisher, who is married and the father of two. "Having been so angry after my adolescence that having the opportunity to get in trouble in a controlled environment saved me. A lot of kids join the military with problems. In my case, I had the time to work them out and people to help me."
The Navy's cooperation was also essential to making the film. The military branch was accommodating, albeit not at any taxpayer expense, according to U.S. Navy Cmdr. Robert Anderson. "We were able to arrange a lot of things around already planned events," Anderson said, including the use of a ship overnight, military vehicles, helicopters and off-duty personnel. For a relatively low-budget film like this one, it would have been impossible to achieve the look of the film without Navy help.
"I said to my boss in Washington, 'If I went to the studios and begged them to do a pro-Navy movie, I couldn't have done better than this,'" says Anderson, the Navy's liaison with Hollywood. "This story shows that we care about our people and we put time and effort into them. Antwone is a recruiting poster for the Navy, and the movie will be too."
* * *
Beth Laski is an entertainment journalist based in Los Angeles.

Poor Mike
 

http://msn.espn.go.com/boxing/news/2...1/1304035.html

Cameraman: 'He just went crazy'

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Reuters



Witnesses say Mike Tyson threatened a group of journalists in a Havana hotel lobby.
HAVANA -- Boxer Mike Tyson lost his temper Tuesday with journalists in Cuba, shouting and tossing crystal balls at them, and lightly hitting one cameraman on the head during a brief fracas in a Havana hotel, witnesses said.

Tyson, on a tourism trip to the Caribbean island, looked furious to see five journalists waiting for him when he emerged from a lift in one of Havana's premier sea-front hotels.

The American heavyweight fighter, wearing jeans but no top, raised his fists in a threatening gesture and yelled insults, according to witnesses and Reuters journalists at the scene.

Tyson, 35, also picked up three crystal balls from a decoration at the hotel lobby's reception, which smashed on the floor after he threw them at the journalists, and lightly hit a Reuters cameraman twice on the back of the head.

"He just went crazy," said the cameraman, Felipe Borrego. "I was planning to ask him for an interview, but he never let me speak, he just turned on us."

Cuban staff at the hotel said Tyson had appeared to become steadily more irritated with unwelcome attention from tourists and others since his arrival Monday night.

Michael Tyson
 

Mike Tyson is a hunk of hot ghetto mess.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't know if you heard
 

Okay, I know this is kinda old, but this is my first time reading this thread...
Anyway, I noticed the thing w/ Michelle's mom too....She barely got a chance to stand up when the camera zoomed off of her... and speaking of moms...where in the HECK is Kelly's Mom? I know that she has been living w/ the Knowles since she was little, but dang...can her mom get some credit too?

if what i heard is true, kelly's mother was on drugs when she went to live with the knowles' family and that is why she is never spoken of

According to Kelly on their INTIMATE PORTRAIT, her mother is a live in maid and because she always had to work and her kids lived with her, she asked the Knowles family to take her daughter in.

Now I have heard of loving your job, but now that her daughter is "BALLIN" her mom shouldn't be working as a live in maid any longer. Well, that's just MY opinion...

I just heard on the radio this morning that Left Eye will be going by the name of Nina now that she has signed with Death Row, or The Row as they are known now. What is up with that?!

I agree.

WITH?

She's with Death Row and Mack 10 is with Cash Money Millionaires?:eek:

What's next? Britney with Ruff Riders? :confused:

What's up with the name change, and I agree with you, what's next Britney with RR...WTH!!:p

kimml122

I also heard that about Left Eye signing to Death Row and becoming 'Nina' on the radio this morning too . They're supposed to revamp her album that was supposed to be released last year. From that single she had out...I don't know how much revamping they can do. ;)
I also heard (on the radio) about Puffy dating J-Lo's sister or something like that. Now that's not even right. :o

I heard that too about Puffy and J.Lo's sister. Is that the sister that was a VJ on VH1?

Judge Joe Brown married this chick 36 recently, according to ET.

That NINA is supposed to stand for something. Some kind of acronym. :rolleyes:

Yeah, last night on MTV they said something like, "No Identity Non Applicable".

2DISCRETE...check your PM

Bill Clinton?????
 

On the radio this morning, they said something about Bill suffering a tragedy of some sort, but then I missed whatever they reported. Does anyone know what is going on?????

Buddy, the Clintons' Chocolate Labrador retriever, was hit by a car and died.

:confused: What's that all about?

Ticked, ok...
 

I have been to the gas station on my lunch looking at newspapers, trying to figure out what happened. I have asked friends on the 'net. All to find out his dog died? :mad: Now, don't get me wrong, I am a dog LOVER, and feel like they are part of the family. HOWEVER, this simply was not newsworthy. But I guess that's how you keep listeners tuned in. :rolleyes:

Re: Ticked, ok...
 

That I agree with. It was on the Yahoo! news link as a LEAD story, even above the dismissal of Minnesota Vikings coach Dennis Green and the resignation of Florida Gators coach Steve "Moammar" Spurrier. :rolleyes:
In fact, the Today Show ran a picture of the woman who hit Buddy with her car. This will also become fodder for those fools on Fox News (aka Clinton Hater) Channel.
:rolleyes:

Oh My!
 

(Jan. 4, 2002) *News reports are circulating that singer Keke Wyatt, who duet-ed on Avant's "My First Love," was arrested on Christmas Day for stabbing her husband and manager 5 times (ouch!) during a dispute. (Dang, was the gift that bad?)
Rahmat Morton received stab wounds to the chest, arm, hands and back. The singer was charged with 2nd degree assault.

With a new single and album, Wyatt has recently been the focus of a big promotional push by her label, MCA Records. When asked for a comment, the only comment EUR got was "No comment" from a label spokesperson.

Updates and Stuff
 

Disappointed In Donnie

LAST week, a rumor spread like a wildfire throughout radio land that claimed Tracey Edmonds, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds' wife, had engaged in a liaison with L.A. Laker Derrick Fisher. The story was reported on the morning broadcast of the "Donnie Simpson Show" on 95.5 WPGC-FM in Washington, D.C. I had
been working with Babyface and Tracey for the last month as my cover story for the January/February issue of Black Elegance Magazine. I knew it was totally false, so I didn't go near it with a 10 foot pole. Says Babyface and Tracey: "On Tuesday morning, November 28, 2001, on "The Donnie Simpson Show," celebrity gossip commentator, 'Huggy Lowdown,' reported an alleged rumor regarding us and Derrick Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers. This rumor was not only false and outrageous, but also hurtful to us. We have never met, nor have we ever been in the presence of Derrick Fisher. Donnie Simpson and Huggy apologized to us on the air the following morning. Subsequently, Donnie released a statement of apology wherein he referred to the allegation as 'erroneous and totally baseless,' and also admitted that 'Huggy' had used his show to spread 'false and hurtful rumors.' Even though Donnie has apologized, the Edmonds have still retained a law firm to address the matter. This is all so sad because rumor has it that Donnie and Babyface are supposed to be good friends.



FORMER "Moesha" costar Lamont Bentley, who portrayed Hakeem, steps into the role of my dearly missed friend, Tupac Shakur, in "The MC Hammer Story," which will air on VH1 on December 14. Lamont, who also stars in "The Wash," with Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre, told a source: "I was nervous playing such a high-profile character, knowing people loved that guy, I was like, 'I hope I don't mess this up." Lamont is also working hard to get a music career off the ground.


What's New With Farrah?

FARRAH Franklin, who was a member of Destiny's Child for the blink of an eye, is rumored to be working on a tell-all book about the short time she spent with the group. Aside from the tome, Farrah is starting her own website, putting out a calendar and releasing a solo album on Nelly's Fo'Real Records. Folks tell me the girl can sing!

Rev. Al has a new friend
 

From "Page Six," the New York Post's gossip column:

THE Rev. Al Sharpton has stolen the Rev. Jesse Jackson's woman - well, one of his women.
In the latest salvo between the battling activists, Sharpton invited Karin Stanford - Jackson's former mistress and the mother of his 2-year-old love child, Ashley - to the private party for the opening of Sharpton's National Action Network's West Coast office. Not only did Stanford attend, but she took the opportunity to backhand her ex, telling guests that Sharpton is "the only civil rights leader I respect and support."

"She made her presence known," an attendee of the Los Angeles event tells newsmax.com.

A source close to both Jackson and Stanford was stunned to hear the news, telling PAGE SIX's Ian Spiegelman, "I've never seen her attack Jesse. She's been straight-up with him through the whole thing and I haven't seen a lot of animosity."

A rep for the National Action Network confirmed Stanford's attendance, but downplayed Sharpton's coup, telling us, "There was no meeting between [Sharpton] and Karin that I know of," although they spoke briefly.

The incident was the most recent flashpoint in the War Between the Revs, with Sharpton and Jackson each vying to be crowned the nation's most influential liberal black leader.

"I do feel it's time that I share the stage with [Jackson] as an equal," Sharpton told New York magazine. "But his ego is bigger than mine, so he is having a hard time giving me my space."

Sharpton, who recently announced his bid for the 2004 presidential election, also complained, "Jesse has also lost some of his instincts for issues."

Stanford's sting must be extra painful for Jackson, since his own presidential aspirations were blown out of the water by their affair.

As The Post reported, Jackson gave up his run for the 2000 election because he feared scrutiny of his candidacy would expose his 41/2-year affair with Stanford, who had run the Washington office of his Rainbow-PUSH coalition.

"I didn't want to do anything to hurt him or the movement," Stanford said last summer, when asked why she'd kept mum for so long. She also described their relationship as "warm and loving." In fact, reports surfaced that Jackson intended to divorce his wife and marry Stanford after their romance was revealed last January by the National Enquirer.

Recent events might explain Stanford's sudden change of heart. After almost a year of tough negotiations, she and Jackson finally settled their child support arrangements in late November.

Re: Updates and Stuff
 

:rolleyes:

GOOD! :)

Michael Jordan
 

I briefly heard about Michael Jordan and his wife getting a divorce. What's up with that?? :confused: I didn't hear the whole story so could somone fill me in.....

Dave Thomas Dies
 

Wendy's founder Dave Thomas dies
Known for role in TV commercials, he was 69
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The Associated Press
Originally published January 8, 2002, 8:59 AM EST



COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Dave Thomas, the portly pitchman whose homespun ads built Wendy's Old-Fashioned Hamburgers into one of the world's most successful fast-food franchises, has died. He was 69.

Thomas died around midnight at his home in Florida, the company said today.

The cause of death was not given. Thomas had been undergoing dialysis for a kidney problem since early 2001, and had quadruple heart bypass surgery in December 1996.

Company officials were meeting at Wendy's headquarters in the Columbus suburb of Dublin and planned an announcement later this morning.

The founder and senior chairman of Wendy's International became a household name when he began pitching his burgers and fries in television commercials in 1989. The smiling Thomas, always wearing a white, short-sleeved shirt and red tie, touted the virtues of fast-food in humorous ads, sometimes featuring stars such as bluesman B.B. King and soap opera queen Susan Lucci.

"As long as it works, I'll continue to do the commercials," Thomas said in a 1991 interview. "When it's not working any longer, then I'm history."

But burgers were not his first love. Thomas, who was adopted as an infant, became a national advocate for adoption.

He created the Dave Thomas Foundation for Adoption, a not-for-profit organization focused on raising public awareness of adoption. The profits from his books, "Dave's Way" and "Well Done!" go to the foundation.

He once testified before a Congressional committee about the importance of creating incentives for adoption.

"I know firsthand how important it is for every child to have a home and loving family," he testified. "Without a family, I would not be where I am today."

Thomas, born July 2, 1932, was 12 when he got his first job -- delivering groceries in Knoxville, Tenn. He joined the restaurant business in the 1950s.

While working at a barbecue restaurant in Fort Wayne, Ind., he met KFC founder Col. Harland Sanders, who became a major influence in his life.

Thomas came to Columbus in 1962 to take over four failing KFC restaurants for his boss, who promised Thomas a 45 percent stake in them if he turned them around. Sanders sold the restaurants back to KFC for $1.5 million in 1968, making Thomas a millionaire at 35.

He opened his first Wendy's Old-Fashioned Hamburgers in Columbus a year later. He named the restaurant after his 8-year-old daughter Melinda Lou, nicknamed Wendy by her siblings.

The chain grew to 4,800 restaurants in the United States and 34 countries by 1996. That year, Wendy's acquired the 1,200-store, Canadian-based Tim Hortons chain of coffee and fresh-baked goods.

Thomas was a forgiving businessman.

The city of Philadelphia in 1994 wanted to fine Wendy's $98,400, claiming the restaurant was selling quarter-pounders that were up to a quarter of an ounce short. The city later announced it made an error and withdrew the fine.

"I understand what happened," said Thomas, who visited the city shortly after the controversy. "Things happen. Mistakes happen. As far as we're concerned, we just want to go to the future. A bright future."

He tried to retire in 1982, but came back in 1989.

"They took the focus off the consumer," he said of the executives who took over the company.

It was the TV commercials that made Thomas famous. Industry analysts and company officials said the ads helped the company rebound from a difficult period in the mid-1980s when earnings sank.

"He's given Wendy's a corporate identity ... a down-homey-type image. The lack of sophistication is a real benefit for the company," one financial analyst said.

In 1996, Thomas filmed his 500th commercial. The company staged a lookalike contest that attracted 1,600 entrants vying for the grand prize: a chance to appear in a commercial with Thomas.

Thomas, who told the story of his life in "Dave's Way," told 2,500 Columbus public school seniors in 1993 -- the year he earned a high school equivalency certificate -- that his biggest mistake was not finishing high school.

"We have 4,000 restaurants today, but if I had gotten my high school diploma, we might have 8,000," he said.

Re: Dave Thomas Dies
 

:(

JFK & Kennedy stuff
 

I couldn't think of anywhere else to post this, and it just wasn't worthy of a new thread. Anyway, I would have forgotten, but the posts about MJ's philandering reminded me. Anywho...

I watched the E! True Hollywood Story on the Kennedys yesterday. And there was SO much I did not know. I'm becoming fascinated with this family. The whole show (of which was only the FIRST part, and WHO KNOWS when the 2nd part will air, they kill me with that isht :mad: ) reminded me of the Bushes. Anyway, did you know...

-that JFK has a sister who his father had LOBOTOMIZED and ended up paralyzed, so she (to this day) is in a convent being cared for by nurses? The mother (Rose Kennedy) had no idea her daughter was being lobotomized. That's just jacked up.

-that all of the JFK men (father and 3 sons) were womanizers? I knew JFK got his adultery on, but I had NO IDEA it was all like that. All I could think was, everyone KNEW this man was cheating on Jackie, with NUMEROUS women, but Bill got a little oral and almost got impeached. WTF?

-JFK was a war hero? I had no idea.

-JFK was supposedly assassinated by the Mafia?

-the Mafia supposedly helped JFK win the election (Bushes...)?

-JFK messed around with one of the mafia bosses mistress (Judy Campbell)?

-Joe Kennedy, Sr. framed this man for rape, the man got convicted, all so Joe could buy his movie production company? This buster was just foul.

-Joe Kennedy, Sr. supported Hitler? :eek:

-JFK's roommate in Hollywood was Robert Stack, the host of Unsolved Mysteries? Now, really, can yall see him hangin out with JFK?? I can't, lol.

Man, it was just so much interesting stuff on there that I just didn't know about. How could we NOT have learned that JFK was a war hero??? I think that's important to know. Not just served in WW2, but a hero? Dang, they coulda told a sista.

BTW, I didn't take notes on any of this! And I haven't started the Ginkgo Biloba, either!!! Go Ideal08!!!!! :D

Re: Michael Jordan
 

Michael Jeffrey Jordan vs. Juanita Vannoy Jordan:

Michael Jordan's wife files for divorce, cites 'irreconcilable differences'

January 8, 2002


CHICAGO (AP) -- Michael Jordan's wife has filed for divorce, citing ``irreconcilable differences'' with the basketball superstar after 12 years of marriage.

Juanita Jordan is seeking permanent custody of their three children, a 25,000-square-foot house in suburban Highland Park and half of the rest of the couple's property. Michael Jordan, who now plays for the Washington Wizards, was paid more than $30 million in his final season with the Chicago Bulls and is one of the world's richest athletes.

Juanita Jordan filed the petition Friday in suburban Waukegan.

The Jordans issued a statement Tuesday asking for privacy ``during this difficult period in our lives.'' Donald Schiller, a lawyer for Juanita Jordan, said the couple hopes ``people try to respect'' that their problems are a personal matter.

Jordan was to play in Washington Tuesday night against the Los Angeles Clippers.

The six-page petition said attempts at reconciliation ``would be impractical and not in the best interests of the family.''

The couple met at a Chicago restaurant during his second season with the Bulls, and they were married Sept. 2, 1989, in Las Vegas. Their children are Jeffrey, 13, Marcus, 11, and Jasmine, 9.

Michael Jordan cited a desire to spend more time with his family when he retired from the Bulls the first time in October 1994 and again in January 1999.

He maintained his home in the Chicago area when he returned to basketball as a front-office executive with the Wizards last season, but his decision to resume his playing career has kept him in Washington full time.

I heard on the radio today that Juanita had a private investigator follow him for four years. She has all kinds of evidence that he had been with six women in that time. Also, that he want to give her $100 million dollars and be done with it.

Kenny Lattimore married Chante Moore
 

.............that is the "buzz"according to Wendy Williams.