Wise decision. Michigan's increases and decreases in COVID cases is directly proportional to the level of restrictions in place over the previous 1-2 weeks. Lowest cases when restaurants are carry-out/outdoors/curbside only. They rise when they were open indoors for 25% capacity. They opened for 50% capacity about 10 days ago and we're back to our highest positivity rates. It's so clearly obviously the primary cause of new cases. You cannot mask in a restaurant. Masks work.

We've only eaten al fresco at restaurants over the past year. Considering Michigan winters, that means it's been 6 months since we've eaten out. Curbside is great and we always tip generously.

I do delivery and also tip generously.

I'm still waiting to get my vaccine, but what worries me here in NYC is 1) now that the weather has warmed up, I see more people no longer wearing a mask outdoors; and 2) restaurants are re-opened for in-door dining and boy are those tables close.

I think things will spike with warm weather and people relaxing, including that once you're vaccinated, you can still get it albeit a mild case. I was waiting to pickup food at a cafe today and a guy walked up to the hostess without a mask on.I saw several other people pull their mask down to talk to the hostess....smh. She told me it made her very nervous.

Most places around here are back to business as usual. The only place that still hasn't opened their dining room is Chick-Fil-A. Not many people have worn masks for quite awhile and our Covid rate is low. I feel like possibly a lot of people here had mild cases early on.

And "back to business" makes me nervous. CDC guidelines for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people are to keep wearing a mask in public, socially distance and wash hands frequently. Lots of folks not yet vaccinated and there are those who will refuse to get the shot. I don't think we can be too cautious, especially with all the new variants.

Great article on this topic from ABC News today including why a plateau in cases is not a good thing given the vaccination rates.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/vaccin...posts_card_hed

No, I mean they've been back to business as usual since last fall.

The father of one of my colleagues is hospitalized with Covid and he and his wife were fully vaccinated. He is not doing well. He is 89 and only leaves the house to go to medical appointments. They didn't even test him until after he was admitted, because they didn't suspect Covid.

Do you know what vaccine he had?

Had 2nd Pfizer dose on Friday. Was spending the weekend with friends and was worried about feeling bad. Alternated Advil/Tylenol every 6-8 hours or so for the first 36 hours and still feel completely fine. My arm actually hurts less with this one than it did with the first one. I'm in my late 40's.

I don't, but I'll find out. It was either Pfizer or Moderna, because I was told he and his wife had "both shots."

Meanwhile, my son was invited today for his first dose tomorrow, and our daughter has her first dose of Pfizer scheduled for April 8. I have my second dose on Wednesday. The pace of vaccination has really ramped up here.

Had my second shot of Pfizer vaccine yesterday. Arm hurts a tiny little bit but I’m wearing magnetic bracelets to help from feeling sore. No other side effects. I’m going to a concert in two weeks! So excited! Will still be wearing a mask though.

I had my first Pfizer on Saturday. My arm began to be sore a few hours after the injection.It was no more sore than any other injection I have had in my arm. I kept moving my arm, hoping that it would limber up the injection site. That did the trick, and by Sunday afternoon, my arm was no longer sore.

From what the pharmacists are saying, you need to wait 2 weeks after the 2nd dose before you build the antibodies. My parents (in their 80s) had their 2nd shots in mid February are still are not spending time with friends. I've only had one shot and I still wear a mask around them (and I've tested negative 4 times for antibodies when donating blood)

Actually, you have antibodies starting about two weeks after the first dose. During the clinical trials, they were saying that the vaccines were 50% effective after the first dose and you would receive "peak protection" of 90% about two weeks after the second dose. But that wasn't to say that you had no protection or antibodies at all after the first dose.

As it were, additional studies conducted by the CDC, using real-world people who received the vaccine in the earliest rounds, have revealed that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were 80% effective after the first dose! 80%!! That means that the second dose only adds an additional 10% of protection.

See it here: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/cdc-...effective.html


Also, an antibody test (from your blood donations) won't tell you if the COVID vaccine is working or not. Antibody tests are looking for a certain protein in people who have already had the actual COVID virus. If you have tested negative four times, congratulations! That means that you've never had COVID! Though, those tests don't mean that your body still hasn't produced antibodies from the vaccine. The antibody test you took, I presume, was looking for a different "piece" than the ones the vaccines makes. The Atlantic had an article that's a bit wordy, but it explains it well.

The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...-tests/617981/

Washington Post, easier read, but less informative: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...antibody-test/


Finally, the CDC says that fully vaccinated people are free to visit other fully vaccinated people indoors without masks. They can also visit with unvaccinated low-risk people from a single household indoors without masks. Of course, you and your parents are welcome to operate at your own comfort level; but, it is not necessary to fully stay inside and not visit anyone.

See the CDC guidelines here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-guidance.html

Got my second dose of Moderna 2 days ago. The day after was pretty awful with a fever that wouldn't break even with Tylenol, but I'm feeling much better today. Well worth it in the end!

Should have clarified...socially distanced time with friends. Wasn't spending time with them just because I was vaccinated. I know about the 2 week rule and am now past it, but acting as I did 2 months ago (masked up, socially distanced, etc...). My mom (85), however, had her 2 shots in January and you'd think Covid never happened by the way she's acting. :rolleyes:

Cosign all of this. I'm just treating this all like - You do what's best for you...I'm going to follow the rules pretty tightly, but if your comfort level is at a lower place, then I'll probably meet you there now that I'm vaccinated. And if you want me in full hazmat gear, well then I'm cool with that too.

I went out for lunch in a small town in Oklahoma on the 2-week anniversary of my second shot. Literally no one was wearing a mask. It was business as per usual. It was strange after a year of all this, but at what point to those of us who have acted responsibly, and been vaccinated go back to business as usual?

It's all about risk management/risk acceptance, right? We each have a different risk tolerance and will go back to "normal" when we feel the risk is low enough for us to be comfortable. I'm not willing to risk GIVING this thing to someone who might be fragile, so I'll keep masking up for a while.

As a note, I got my J&J last Thursday. Felt a little drained through about Sunday, but I've had similar reactions to the Flu vaccine.

Note, I'm in the county just north of DC, we are still on strong requirements for masks. They are just *now* allowing Churches to have 100 member meetings.

Well I got my last round of Pfizer this pst Saturday. The first one my arm felt pretty sore for a day then I was fine. This time around my arm didn't really hurt but I felt like I had a mild cold for a day but after that I okay.

Cal State and USC systems to require vaccine for fall semester

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/cali...box=1619186936

I've had both of my Pfizer shots. I got nauseous about 2 hours after I got my first dose. Was nauseous the rest of the day. I got the 2nd dose two weeks later and was absolutely fine.

Had my 2nd dose of Moderna last Friday (4/16). I had the same upper arm soreness as I did with the first dose, plus I woke up at around 3:30 am (12 hours after my shot) because my feet felt like they were on fire, and couldn’t get comfortable enough to get back to sleep for a few hours. (Of course, my cat poking my feet every time I moved them didn’t help!) That was it for side effects. I’m halfway to having it fully kicked in!

On Etsy, a company is selling shirts with “Pfizer Alumni”, “Moderna Alumni” and “Johnson & Johnson Alumni”, like it’s a University or Greek alum shirt. NYT did a story about it.

Got my second shot on Friday. I woke up on Saturday with my arm hurting like hell and a mild headache, then at 3 I was out like a light for 3 hours. Otherwise not bad.

I had my second Pfizer shot on Saturday morning. Had a sore arm for two days. I kept waiting for other side effects, but nothing happened.

I got the Pfizer vaccine as well. I kept waiting for the side effects, but I didn't realize I was experiencing them until about 2 days after the 2nd shot. I had pain in my knees and wrists. At first, I just thought I slept on them funny. But when I had a swollen lymph node in my underarm, it clicked that what I was feeling were side effects.

Anyone else had the J&J vaccine? What were your side effects? Do the effects take longer to appear?

My 31 yo son received J&J. He got sick about 6 hours after the shot, had to leave work, and slept most of the time. Symptoms lasted just under 24 hours.

DaffyKD

I took the J&J. I got it on a Thursday and was a little bit out of it through the weekend, but more of being pretty tired, but that's the way I react to cold/flu in general.

I'm fully vaccinated, but i have autoimmune disease - so i'm not sure how 'immune' i am to the virus.
I ran into a situation this weekend where a bunch of my alum chapter sisters got together- but i couldn't go because one wasn't vaccinated. I doubt she will get the vaccination. But she has had covid, so now she says she has the antibodies. I feel like she thinks this makes it ok to not get masked - even tho she can still spread the virus.
Now i face a dilemma - do i never attend our get togethers or take the risk.
Feeling really excluded and like they just don't get how vunerable i am to the virus.

I am sorry. Have you shared this information with the group?

Husband, son, and I all had Pfizer. All had sore arms similar to tetanus shot soreness. I purposefully exercised my arm in the hopes that it would work the soreness out, and it did. Husband had a light headache with his first shot (due to his work, he got his in January). I only had arm soreness for a day with both doses. Son had sore arm with first shot, and felt that his underarm lymph nodes were swollen with the second shot.

UPDATE: My wife and I have both had our third Covid-19 shot/booster.

I had Pfizer 2 weeks ago and had very mild symptoms—sore shoulder, tiredness for about 48 hours.
My wife had the Moderna yesterday—1/2 dose as prescribed. She has been hit pretty hard—headache, exhaustion (slept 11 hours last night), had a slight fever (over 100) and has slept off and on today

Of course we both think whatever side effects are absolutely worth some discomfort. I just wanted to weigh in.

UPDATE: I received my Moderna booster today here in Cali. No symptoms after 6 hours though I am a little tired because I cooked a complete Thanksgiving dinner afterwards.

I lucked out, I found a place that was administering the booster vaccine without an appointment. I happen to be walking in the right place at the right time. I did have an appointment, the earliest I could book was 12/3. I cancelled this appointment.

My husband had his Moderna booster in September -- he was pretty tired for the next 24 hours, but he also had the "enhanced" flu shot at the same time, so it's hard to say if one or both wiped him out. I had the Pfizer booster Oct. 8, along with the regular flu shot and the first Shingles vaccine. Sore arm and lymph nodes, but that was it -- two of the three injections had some redness and tenderness, but I have no idea which ones were which! Our son is getting his 3rd Pfizer vaccine as we speak.

Update: I developed a fever 12 hours after injection. A lot better today

Ugh I have to get Moderna Round 3 soon...I had a miserable 24 hours after the second shot. I didn’t plan properly and wound up working 8 hours while feeing like I had the worst flu. Now I’m going to schedule it for when I’m off. Too bad I don’t work for the state anymore because they paid for you to be off when you got the vaccine.