At my school, the Pikes and Alpha Gams are bro/sis because our founders were married. We generally hang out with the gams the most and do special stuff with them.

Also, Nationally, it's us and Chi Omega because our national headquarters houses are on the same street.

No.

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Just a repeat of my constant refrain.
The only constitutionally bound brother/sister orgs FROM THE ENTIRE NIC, NPC, and NPHC are Zeta Phi Beta Sorority and Phi Beta Sigma.

They are on the same street, they're right next to each other...

That's lovely. But Mellon and PNC have offices on the same street, right next to each other in downtown Pittsburgh. That doesn't make them brother/sister banks. That is what the "no" referred to.

Once again:

We've said it before, we'll say it again:

No NPC sorority has a national brother fraternity. Most if not all NPC sororities do not support their chapters adopting a local brother fraternity.

The only constitutionally bound brother/sister orgs FROM THE ENTIRE NIC, NPC, and NPHC are Zeta Phi Beta Sorority and Phi Beta Sigma.

If you're going to use that reason, explain all the GLOs located on Founders Road in Indianapolis. They're on the same street... :rolleyes:

Co-sign 33 and BG's posts. No organization besides PBS and ZPhiB have official, constitution bound relationships.

if ure gonna go by chapters being on the same street being related..well my chapter must be related to 4 fraternities bc were the only sorority on fraternity row

At my school, we don't have offical brother/sister fraternities/sororities but I know that our DG's are pretty tight with our Pikes.

thats kind of like my school, were really tight with aepi..

hey hey, relax, i was just stating they they were on the same street, not that they were a national brother/sister fraternity....relaxxxxxx!!!!

My chapter doesnt have a chapter like that, we were cool with Chi-O for a while, went onto DZ, then Sigma Kappa...it depends on the situation....I love DZ's and SK's though, those are my girls!

However Pike1483 DID say they were national brother & sister. That was directed towards him - you seemed to be supporting what he was saying.

Didn't mean to be bitchy, it's just that I don't like when Greeks don't know their own policies.

I do know my own national policies, Pi Kappa Alpha nationals does not allow us to have big or lil sis's, we do not have a national sister sorority...I know my policies, so relax

from my understanding Pi beta phi's bro frat is Beta theta pi, since we were the first national sorority we were modeled after beta, alot of our things we represent are similar. I think this is why ppl say we are bro/sis fraternatys. Its like that at my school.. and betas r good guys so were proud to call them our bro frat

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Hi, piphiarrow234, it's great that your chapter gets along well with the Betas at your university, but . . .

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oh im not saying we are "officially' bro/sis and all that stuff, its just like we hang out with them alot and stuff i didnt mean to make it out like its anything official, just alot of sisters date them and we are good friends with them

We dont need men ;) for our sorority but for our bedrooms that is a diff story LOL..........actually we are good girls...... all of us have serious boyfriends, engaged, married, or virgins....... weird huh...

Though we DO NOT have an official brother fraternity (the only recognized bro/sis connection that I know of is ZPhiB/PBS), our chapter is very close to Delta Chi. We do alot with them since they live next door. Alot of my sisters are lavaliered to them. Some of them even have "big/lil bros" in the chapter. :)

PiPhi at my school was associated with Phi Delt.

...however the Phi Delt chapter at my school was shut down this spring so there will be none of that....at least for 5-6yrs

*sigh*

A lot of the sorority chapters at my school were previously "little sister" groups to the different fraternities before they were colonized as part of a national organization.

Sometimes that shows a little bit with inter-greek relations. Some of the chapters keep close to their former "big brothers" and some of them don't.

As for AGD, it was colonized on campus (the first women's fraternity here) as a completely independent organization, so we don't have ties with any one of the five fraternities on campus that go beyond "well I'm dating so-and-so" or "well I'm the sweetheart of XYZ fraternity."

We pick who we do mixers with, we pick who we do greek week and homecoming with, and so on without worrying about hurting our "big bro's" feelings. We're closer with some than others just because those are who our friends are.

Personally, I have really close guy friends in both ZBT and PiKA, and I have a "pseudo big" in PiKA but that's not official through AGD or anything, he's just unhappy with his tree right now so I told him I would be his little haha.

to the Zetas:
i am absolutely sure my soror meant no offense to you when she claimed to be your "cousin," but to be honest, that is how the ladies of SLG are educated, to look up to the organizations whose ideals and principals inspired and motivated our founders. the connection she was reffering to is that one of the founders of Sigma Lambda Beta was a Sigma, and SLG was founded and molded using the ideas, history, manuals, etc. of SLB. Sharing a headquarters with SLB, and with both groups having a joint member who now serves as the executive director, we (Gammas) do call the Betas our brothers, but also acknowledge that there is NO official recognition on the part of ANY of the involved GLOs. We as Gammas have deep love and respect for Sigma Lambda Beta, Zeta Phi Beta, and Phi Beta Sigma. On some campuses, including my own, the Zetas and Sigmas DO claim the Gammas and Betas as family. Again, I hope my soror didn't offend you. Much Love & Respect to all the Greek Fam.

We are officially the sisters of Pi Beta Sigma

Tau Delta/Pi Beta Sigma
Sigma Alpha Tau (Owls)/ Zeta Phi
Theta Nu/ Lambda Gamma Epsilon (Kings)
Kappa Phi Omega/ Sigma Delta Phi (Sphinx)
Tau Epsilon Mu/ Pi Kappa Phi (Country Club) *not the national*
Epsilon Kappa Tau/ Eta Phi Mu (Jonda)

At WVU, when I pledged a few years ago I was told that Pi Phi was our sister sorority. Lately it seems that we have had a falling out and don't do too much anymore.

Talking to both Beta's and Pi Phi's nationally, I always got the impression that they are usually brother/sister fraternites.

No.

The only official brother/sister relationship on a national level is between Zeta Phi Beta Sorority and Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity. No official relationship exists between any NPC and NIC group.

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OH, I am so quotable.

Coramoor, I have heard the rumor about Beta and Pi Phi a lot. But there isn't any official relationship between us, nationally or locally.

I always thought Phi Kappa Tau and Phi Mu were brother/sister. Maybe that's just one school.

The thing about our system is that the matching is COMPLETELY off. Our brothers don't do anything with us. If they have mixers during pledging, it's only with one sorority...they won't give any social things to other houses (makes getting signatures and chats REALLY difficult). I just don't see how they fit any more.

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I guess I should have put in that I have usually heard it as an unoffical relationship.

The sorority that I'm officially interested in, Mu Sigma Upsilon, is part of the "Upsilon Family" with Lambda Sigma Upsilon, Latino fraternity. They are constitutionally bound and everything because they were founded 2 years apart on the same campus. MSU is a multicultural sorority, but some have the misconception that they are Latina because their founders and brother fraternity are.

*Danielle*

PS: When I say "officially interested," I mean it. The interest group has its own EBoard and everything. We just can't say we're part of the sorority because it's unclear whether or not we will cross. Just added that to let you guys know I'm not some loser stalker or anything like that.

never bound to one fraternity except ADPi
 

I believe Adpi only has recognized one group of men as anything more then a greek or an independent and those are the wonderful men who became KOD (king of diamonds). I assume all ADPi chapters have this and they are a special guy that year who has helped us without being asked and stepped up without stepping out of line.

We stopped having "big brothers" around 1990. because of that no mixing of the sexes in glo's (or whatever) thing.

Don't get me wrong KOD's are not initiated or anything they are just held above the rest. Not always greek, Not always a boyfriend, but always King of Diamonds. (however my junior and senior years were both Sigma Chi's)

none of that is offical at our campus. There was unoffical, like a sorority would spend alot of time at a particular fraternity. But, now, that is even getting mixed up. AST and ZBT are the only ones that are staying close on that. I think because during Greek Week we have a rotation so everyone always works with someone different.

Meh... The ASTs are pretty close with the Zebes because most of them are dating or are like best friends with one another...

Just remember, lots of Alpha Gams date them too, like me! And our sweetheart is a Zebe! And their sweetheart is an Alpha Gam!

my big brothers
 

At my school the Sig Tau Gamma's are our (AST) big brothers. It's really cool because in both of our local historys our groups are really interwined with each other.

on our campus it's Theta Phi Alpha/ Alpha Sigma Phi

I'm not positive on our national rules, but I know my campus we couldn't even have a King of Diamonds (or Jack) anymore because of something silly--the same reasons other said they can't have a brother fraternity. I think its cool we don't have a brother frat...at times our chapter was definitely closer to some organizations, but at one point we had girls who were sweethearts for something like 6 out of 8 fraternities which really showed our diversity and how much we hung out with all the groups.

64 NIC Fraternities
26 NPC Sororities

I think that would be a good argument against the existence of national brother/sister organizations.

Cosign, only we called our guy our "Black Diamond Beau" or BDB. He was named at our "Black Diamond Ball", so I guess the name just came naturally.

Now, we were always especially close to three or four fraternities each year, but we never referred to them as brother fraternities.

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Honestly, it is nothing offically, it just compares to the chapters the each organization has with a different organization. Out of all the soroities that have TKE on the campus it is Delta Zeta, not saying we are national brother and sister organization, but we just have a lot of chapter together on different campus. At Long beach, we actaully do hang out with Delta Zeta. They are one of my favorite houses and many guys in our house love them too. Also, we have a lot of people who love Delta Gamma. Tri Delta used to be big supports, but they don't get allowing with Delta Zeta and Delta Gamma

To echo 33Girl's earlier post: No NPC sorority has a national brother fraternity. Most if not all NPC sororities do not support their chapters adopting a local brother fraternity.

Locally, there was a time when university Greek Systems adopted auxilary groups within GLOS-- Big Brothers, Little Sisters, etc. We no longer do this.

Several of these traditions still take place on local campuses. They go unrecognized by NPC, campus Panhellenic and the chapters as official groups.

I have heard the rumor about ADPi and SAE. While we share some symbols in common, it is just a coincidence.

At UCF, we pair up with a fraternity each homecoming, and another for Greek Week. We call each other our "Homecoming Partners" or "Greek Week Buddies."

There used to be events like King of Diamonds, etc., but for the most part chapters don't hold these contests because ADPi doesn't wish to mistake that we are anything but a women's organization-- men don't represent our letters as auxilary members.

ADPi does have a signature philanthropy event that can be adapted to each chapter. It is called the Lion's Share Challenge and the chapters have the freedom to work within this event to make it unique to their campus as a sporting event, dance-off, fundraiser, etc.

The reasons for not having a big bro/lil sis have to do (again!) with insurance and maintaining status as single-sex organizations. I'd hate to open sorority recruitment up to a man... Imagine him at the new member sleepover. Pillowfight, anyone? :)

TO concer at the last MGCA a friend of mine attended ( the Midwest all greek conference) it was told that it violates NPC to officially have a brother/sister relationship between GLO's.

While on many campus's this is done based on campus history it can violate your ( I know it does our) GLO bylaws/ codes which may prohibit that.

Although the fact remains that there is only one pairing that is "officially" brother/sister (it has been mentioned many many times!) I know that some schools locally do adopt a kind of "brother" fraternity or "sister" sorority that they do a lot with.

We don't really have that here, although among the NPC sororities we adopt a "sister" sorority to do activities with. They change once every two years, and it seems like we do stuff together about once a month or so. It's just a fun little way to meet more greeks.