that was a cute idea!

Very Cute!!! I liked that idea!

thanks
 

I can't believe you took the time to post such an unimportant post:rolleyes:


Thanks to everyone else who had something positive to say, I just learned how to post pics, so I'm doing my thing;)



QTE

I just wanted to say that I am definately against the image that the show is introducing about greek life. It is stereotyping us more than we already are! I mean think about how how other people are looking at the show that have never experienced greek life and do not understand it... I have only seen it a few times, and everytime I've watched I'm thinking how bad it makes fraternities and sororities look to people that aren't greek. The show focuses on Candace/Jordan way too much. The show is called "Sorority Life" NOT the "Candace & Jordan Show"... focus on the REAL sorority life and the good things that greeks do & the fun we have while we do good! To all of our friends that aren't in a sorority or fraternity... we are really nice people, I promise! :) Please don't think we are stuck-up, whine, and do nothing but party! :D

Not that I am that into the show, and not be an ass, but I cant fu*king stand amanda. The sound of her voice makes my skin crawl. Please for the rest of us, get that nasal polup surgery so it doesent sound like you have a perpetual cold.

lifesaver, i totally agree with you! not only does her voice bother me, but whats up with her lips? its like there is no space between her nose and her mouth and she never ever has a happy look on her face. it bothers me.

Re: thanks
 

Hey, I'm sorry that came off as so harsh, but when you post the photos and superlatives like "most beautiful" "best hair" and "drama queen", you just perpetuate the NEGATIVE things about the show that most of the people here at GC have already milled over and decided they hate many times. The show is just bad bad bad, and when you post stuff like that, you just feed the hype.

C'mon now. Amanda is an imperfect person, just like the rest of us. Don't be mean. :)

Is anyone else getting the idea that tonight's episode is going to be full of "un-Sigma like" behavior??;)

formals are just brewing for "un-sigma like behavior"!

The "un-sigma-like" behavior was at an all time high in tonight's episode!!! :eek:

I really wish MTV would have split it into two installments...

1) Fun dress shopping, finding dates, getting their hair/make-up done (girly episode)
2) The actual formal (and all the drama episode)

Just once I'd like to see something happy that didn't end in trouble!
My jaw was on the floor because I couldn't believe what I was seeing!!! (you think I'd be used to this by now)!

Just in case anyone didn't already know, there are pictures from the
Spring Formal here: http://www.pbase.com/betastar/formal

I know this is very un-Sigma-like behavior and I really shouldn't be posting this, but after watching tonight's episode I started thinking about that old school Johnny Depp B-Movie "Crybaby". Remember that awful character from that movie?

Hatchet Face.

You figure it out.

I'm sorry. I had to let it out. Removing my letters from the signature now.

I am sorry and don't mean to be rude or snobby but if I found out that a pledge left the dance to go to a strip club (and it sure looked like they were getting a "private dance") - their butts would be on the sidewalk the next morning.

I can't believe the sorority is putting up with them. Do us all a favor and kick them out!!!

They got their 15 minutes of fame... now show them to the door, cash in their negetive points, and rest in the knowledge that you are too good for them!

P.S.... show the blonde chick the way to an AA meeting...and I quote... "Thats not a double....give me a double... give me a double damn it!!" and bring a date who has more that $8 in his pocket!

Oh, and how UN-cool did the fab four look with their sunglasses on the whole time?

Posers much?

I'm still in shock that I watched all that shit take place.

First...Dede and Jordan ditch funerals to go to formal? :mad:

Second...Jordan and Mara ditch and go to a better hotel? Spoiled, snotty little brats. :rolleyes:

Third...ALL of the pledges get up and leave during speeches? :eek:

Fourth...A combo of Jordan and Mara at the strip bar, and Amanda and Candace trying to go to another club. :( :mad:

I just feel really bad for them. And even worse for the women of Sigma.

That formal looked BEAUTIFUL and it looked like it would have been a lot of fun.

:confused:

It WAS beautiful. Most gorgeous formal I have ever been to, and the TV cameras did no justice to just how awesome it looked. It looked great on TV, but I cant put into words just how magical (?) that room felt. I've been to really nice black-tie weddings, dinners with dignitaries, special restaurants, and this dance, this setting, trumped them all. Props to Jessie and her crew for working their butts off to pull this thing off.:D

Zuma, right on girl. The formal looked was beautiful and I'm glad you had a great time.

I've actually been to that hotel [never to that ballroom, though] and I thought my formals were beautiful. The room looked so elegant, but the best part was seeing the Sigma sisters dancing to "We are Family". I flashbacked to dancing to that same song with my own sisters.

As a former Social Chair, I know how hard it is putting something like that together. Your biggest concern is making sure that everyone has a great time after all the effort you put in to it. That's why I feel Jesse's pain after seeing those people dig out that way. It is a slap in the face and I hope they were dealt with accordingly [as we'll probably see in the next episode].

As a collegian I would have loved to have attended a formal like that.

Those girls have to be the most un-deserving of the Sigma letters after what I witnessed tonight.

Teeny. I just realized. If that girl is a Sigma, we just kinda insulted some of her new sisters. I know at least SOME of them went active.

:o

Oh lord. I don't know what I'd do if my sorority was on TV like that.

:(

Re: Re: thanks
 

You are entitled to you opinion Shine but there is one thing I have learned on GC that whenever someone does something in a fun manner, there is ALWAYS someone to rain on the parade. And if you want to get technical, this whole thread perpetuates negative things about the show, including your little jibe about Amanda and Candance being "posers" and whatnot, but it's all good.

Back to the show, For the first time, Leslie(who has been on the pledges side since day one) was really mad at them for leaving. I don't blame any of them. I'm shocked none of them told them right then and there how rude that is. I really think that Jordan and Mara are going to leave.

Can I just say how much I hated Jordan's dress but I loved Mara's? And Jessica looked pretty with her hair up.
http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u10/betas...rdanTaylor.jpg


QTE

Well, while everyone is throwing in their 2 cents, i wanna add mine.

That guy who was tellin the sister that he wanted to 'get the f*** out' cuz he felt like a 'claustraphobic monkey' or whatever was being a complete asshole.

Man, if i ever had a date say that to me at formal, i'd be like, fine, you know where your house is, start walking. (haha, considering our formal last year was in Laredo, that'd be a LONG ass walk) I mean, yes, i've been to sorority formals before, and sometimes there are times that are less fun than the rest, but that guy needs to be thankful he was even invited and have enough courtesy not to ruin that girl's special night.

I mean, i don't know that guy, but he's probably not even Greek, and now he's gonna go back to all his GDI buddies talking smack about how he went to some dopey formal and his date was a b**** blah blah blah. (BTW, i thought the formal looked really well put together)

(sorry i'm late on this, i have to work during the show and tape it and watch it when i get home) <-------how sad is THAT??

Sorry to nitpick and use blue language, but it just irritates me to see people disrespect other people like that.

Kitso
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[Edited for content, R rating--->PG-13]

Sorority Life Opinions 1million1:
1. The formal looked beautiful! The ballroom was drop dead gorgeous and jessie did a beyond wonderful job putting it together.
2. The sisters had class and grace and did not react like i think some of my sisters would have had our new girls gotten up during a speech or left formal in general. They kept their cool and that is to be commended. And their dresses were beautiful!
3. Mara and Jordan should have their butts kicked to the curb. Drop them, neg them, 2nd vote them...whatever your org calls it...let them go now before they bring the ENTIRE org down!
4. Granted the Candace/Amanda thing was obnoxious with the sunglasses, but you always have (or at least i always did ) have "that girl" who got drunk and showed up in birkenstocks or flip flops with her formal dress or sunglasses.
5. From 1 important lesson learned from my experience, alchohol+beingdressed up+new members= disaster. Too many things can and will go wrong. Plus, you should never ever serve alcohol during a speech or something like tranition, the bar should have been closed!
6.Lastly, the hotel was really not that bad. I mean, i have stayed in worse fraternity houses and worse hotels for spring break. and they were only going to spend 1 night there, and they didn't even have to pay for it!I'm sorry if its not their ikea furnished mtv pledge house! But jeez, stop being such spoiled brats.

I'd just like to say that, while it was horridly rude for everyone to get up and leave during the presentations, and even worse to try to go to another club, I think it was to Candace & Amanda's credit that they returned to formal and seemed to be having a good time. I saw them dancing with their dates and sisters. I think I saw Amanda dancing with her big (Pauli) and I also saw a shot of Dede dancing with her big... cute! I hope they realized that it wasn't so bad after all.

PS: This is why we have dry formals.

The whole thing REALLY pissed me off - I have never seen such disrespect, I can't imagine ever acting like that as a pledge. These girls have no conept of sisterhood, unity, any of it.

Pledging isn't a joke and you don't get to pick or choose what you do or don't want to do, you do what you're told and you show respect to those who came before you.

The best thing the sisters could do would be to drop all of them except for Dede, at least of the pledges that show up on camera. And although I used to be a fan of Jessica, I no longer feel that way, I don't think she acts particularly sisterly either.

There's absoluetely no excuse for that disgusting display, and edited or not, noone forced these girls to be so rude and obnoxious, and knowing this was all going to end up on camera and on national television makes them even worse in my eyes.

Maybe I missed it, but did the pledges say why they chose to get up in the middle of the ceremony? Besides being rude, of course, which seems to be their reason for doing anything!

Side note: Zuma, the formal itself looked absolutely amazing and I hope you all enjoyed yourselves despite certain idiot behavior. ;)

We did A Phi O officer installations at our formal, but in both my orgs, our "senior ceremony" was a separate event. Probably because 1) not everyone went to the formal and 2) we all bawl and we didn't want to bawl all over our nice dresses. :)

that being said....I ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY CAN NOT FATHOM EVER WALKING OUT ON ANY PART OF SENIOR CEREMONY!!!! :mad: Anyone who did, they would have been gone. Period.

Oh, and Mara and Jordan bitching about the hotel - good grief, princess much? I'm an alumna, for cryin out loud, and I stay at the Super 8 every year for homecoming. That hotel wasn't the Westin, but I failed to see anything THAT bad.

Side note: is Jordan's grandma who died on the Jewish side of her family? Reason I ask is, I thought that Jewish tradition dictated immediate burial (i.e. you die on the 3rd, you are buried on the 4th). Of course the editing is so messed up her grandma could have died last year and they are just now putting it in.

33girl: Funny comment about editing. :)

My take on the show: First off, their formal was absolutely gorgeous. It looked like a dream formal. :D You know, I found the entire show amusing. There were so many things that went on in the show that I couldn't help but laugh. I guess I am seeing this show as entertainment, rather than actual "sorority life."

* Leaving formal to go a strip club, um, wrong!

* Leaving formal to go to a bar with cheaper drinks, um, not as wrong, but still wrong. Had going to the other bar for a quick drink been the norm, then okay, but it wasn't. I do give them props for going back to formal; however, they did only go back b/c two were missing ID's

* Going to a better hotel, if you have the money and don't want to stay where your "sisters" are staying at, do what you want to do. It just shows what is more important to you (which is only obvious to us w/o having to switch hotels)

* "The whole table" taking off in the middle of the ceremony? One question, WHY?? They did go to San Francisco for formal, right?? I think everyone just wanted to get up and check out SF's night life. I think they said formal didn't end 'til 2am. Our formals usually end no later than midnight, which leaves plenty of room to do other things AS A GROUP.

* The sunglasses: Perhaps they could have taken off their sunglasses during the presentation, but I thought that was cute.


All in all, it was just soo funny to me because I know that drama does go on in my sorority; we just don't see it and find out about a lot of it on television.

I was with Mara and Jordan...that hotel room they had was gross. Did you see that shit on the wall? I don't think it's a big deal to change hotels if they had the cash! I think them getting up and walking out in the middle of the ceremony totally sucked. That guy who was bitching he wanted to leave was a total asshole.

As for other people leaving and going other places, I'd have to say that the formal was SOOOOO long. Who has a formal until 2 am!! You go, eat dinner, dance, drink and such till 11 or 12 and then go do your thing. And $8 for a drink is absolutely ridiculous.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shadokat
<<I was with Mara and Jordan...that hotel room they had was gross. Did you see that shit on the wall? I don't think it's a big deal to change hotels if they had the cash!>>

I do, they were pledges and they don't get to make those decisions. The very least they could have done was ask if it was okay before just up and leaving.

<< I think them getting up and walking out in the middle of the ceremony totally sucked. That guy who was bitching he wanted to leave was a total asshole. >>

They deserve to get booted, from the photo galleries on the Sigma website I assume that's what happened. They don't have the first clue about sisterhood and they would do nothing but bring that that sorority down in the future.

And $8 for a drink is absolutely ridiculous. >>

Not for San Francisco it's not, any major urban area is that expensive. It's like that in New York and Los Angeles too.

In Philadelphia, a major urban area, a vodka and cranberry does not cost $8, unless you're at the airport or something. And that includes upscale swank places.

Since when can't new members make their own decisions? Just because you're a new member doesn't mean that you lose your right to think for yourself...but that's a whole nother thread stacy.

Originally posted by shadokat
In Philadelphia, a major urban area, a vodka and cranberry does not cost $8, unless you're at the airport or something. And that includes upscale swank places. >>

at all of the hotel bars type places I've been to in the L.A. area, they have, at the swankier restaurants too. And from the little time I spent in San Francisco, that seems right.


Since when can't new members make their own decisions? Just because you're a new member doesn't mean that you lose your right to think for yourself...but that's a whole nother thread stacy. >>

Not in the world I came from, as far as pledging goes. Pledges don't get to make those decisions.

I think that goes back to the whole old school vs. new school of greek life, though. I can't for the life of me imagine when I was pledging to just decide to switch hotels because I felt like it, seperating myself from my pledge class and from the sisters.

I have never wanted to smack someone as much as I did after watching last night's episode. Those awful (and I'm being so nice here) girls have no f***ing clue what sisterhood is. They need to be shown the door-and NOW.

No way would I have left a formal 1) in the middle of speeches, awards, and presentations or 2) to go to a strip club.

And what's up with everyone being so bored with formal?? The first one I went to I was so excited!! I wore my tiara and was bouncing off the walls! I had a blast!

Oh wah wah, the hotel isn't the Ritz, wah wah...spoiled brats. Now, I like nice things as much as the next person, but as someone has already said it wasn't that bad, and I have stayed in worse at fraternity formals I've been too. Whatever. :rolleyes:

Ok-but I also do have some nice things to say-the formal was absolutely gorgeous!! I loved the decor. And the sisters all singing "We Are Family"-I have never wanted to be back at a formal with all my sisters as much as I did then. It was really a nice moment.

Okay, I realize this is a very young local organization, but this stuff should not fly. Aren't we all forgetting something?!? Two words: Risk Management!!! They can't just take off and do their own thing (whether it's a pledge or an active member) because if something had happened to their drunk arses, the chapter could be held responsible.

Just wanted to state for the record, despite her lack of camera time (big shock there) DeeDee's dress looked GREAT!


TG

Leslie, I was just going to say the same thing about the hotel...I mean they are in a strange city and just taking off to heaven knows where. It's not like they are in Clarion (pop. 6000) and decided they don't like the Super 8, and go to the Days Inn (which is a parking lot away).

Plus from what I gathered, I think that the hotel they were staying in was charged to the sorority as a whole - so yeah, if they want to be prisses, they can go elsewhere, but they also need to pay for the rooms they thought they were too "good" to use - or Sigma will end up eating the $$$.

When formals were still wet, no one ever went anywhere else afterwards (except to their rooms, nudge nudge wink wink), but that's a different story. The thing is, they HAD a cash bar there - they had no reason to leave. Everyone knows the Westin isn't cheap - if they couldn't afford the "incidentals" and that was more important to them than being with their sisters, they should have just not bothered to attend.

Actually, the chapter is not responsible if something happens to them because the event is held at a third party vendor. The Westin would be held responsible if anything happened within the actual formal. As for outside, that would be the responsibility of the establishment they were attending.

As for the rooms, well, if Sigma is paying for everyone's room out of their budget, that's just silliness. Most chapters who do overnight formals have their own sisters pay for their rooms on their own.

I'm not saying that what they did was right in leaving the formal to go somewhere else and get loaded. I guess I am just used to the days when the whole formal thing was open bar....ahhh, those were the days, eh 33? :)

for all you Jordan fans...
 

I didn't realize Jordan lived so close to my hometown... anyway... this was in my paper yesterday.

I missed the last ten minutes or so of the episode so i am going by what you all are saying. damn... i don't have cable at my new apartment... anyone know when this show is ending?

PS: It's kinda long... sorry.



Quite a rush for Livermore woman on MTV's `Sorority Life'
By Susan Young - STAFF WRITER


This is the story of a popular high school girl from Livermore who graduated in 1999 and became a student at the University of California, Davis.

Jordan - no last name by request - managed to avoid the whole sorority scene until her junior year, when she felt compelled to rush the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi sorority.

It was just a coincidence that at the exact same time, MTV was rushing the house.

Able to act independently because it is not a national organization, the 4-year-old Jewish sorority had no higher authority to answer to and agreed to accept an undisclosed amount of money for allowing the producers of ``Sorority Life'' to tape their rush process last spring.

The show follows six pledges, including Jordan, and six sorority sisters. Since it premiered on June 24, viewers have been eagerly tuning in to ``Sorority Life,'' which airs at 10:30 tonight and every Monday on MTV. Jordan has become a focal point of the show, with her outspoken ways. Even when she's not voicing her opinion, the eye-catching young woman posts her every thought on her expressive face.

In the first episode, the sorority sisters appeared a bit perturbed by the fact that many of the pledges seem to be more along the lines of tall Nordic blondes eager for screen time than serious Sigma sorority material. Much was made of the fact that non-Jewish people rushed the sorority.

In fact, the Sigma sisters issued a statement on the MTV experience, in which they said they think of themselves as a cultural rather than a religious sorority. However, ``Many people, including our own sisters, are uneasy about the overwhelming number of non-Jews who are pledging,'' wrote Sigma sister Mara, who rushed with Jordan.


Here is Jordan's story.


How did you hear about the sorority?


It's not that well known on campus, so everyone knew about it from the MTV crew coming to film there. But I probably would have been interested in it anyway because it's a small sorority and I thought it would be a friendly one.


But according to what is happening in the show thus far, it doesn't seem like a very friendly environment for you. Is it hard to watch?


I think it's very hard to watch. I watched a (recent) episode last night and a few things were taken out of context and at the time it didn't seem like that, or feel like that. But overall, I'm surprised at how accurate it does portray things.

It's really painful to watch most of the time. But then again, I'm learning so much. When it first aired, it was really cool. ... I can't believe all I went through and then to see it all play out again is very hard. I had no idea the things people were saying behind my back.

Like the things Amanda was saying. We were friends before all this and I couldn't believe it. I don't speak to Amanda any more. And all the other girls, well, it's just hard to watch them.


There was controversy that a lot of people rushing weren't Jewish. Are you Jewish?


It was just Mara and me (who are Jewish). Well, she's definitely Jewish and I consider myself to be Jewish, although I'm not really religious. My background is that my grandparents were Jewish and that was always there. Religion never played a big role in my family. I guess I consider myself Jewish, just a non-practicing Jew.


Before MTV rolled into town, Sigma didn't have a pledge house. MTV provide a pretty nice home for the pledges, although it was only rented for the time in which the series was taping. What do you think about that, and the overall manipulation of MTV?


Well, I understand why they needed to have us all in one house, because it made it easier for them to tape us and the sorority couldn't afford that. And they gave us some cars so we could get around a little bit better. But I objected to the rules, like no drinking in the house and no boys in the house after 11 p.m.; that seemed to be instituted by MTV just so we would go out drinking at the bars and hanging out with boys outside of the house.

I think it would have been much safer for us to be drinking in the house than drinking in a bar. A lot of times, the producers would be at the bar, buying us drinks, but not on camera. That didn't seem right.


Are you recognized now because of your appearance on ``Sorority Life''?


I get recognized everywhere I go. People are honking at me in cars so much that I think we are going to get in an accident. I go to Stoneridge mall (in Pleasanton) and kids want my autograph. At baseball games, I've signed arms and legs and it's really cool. People are really into the show.

I've been touched by things people say to me like ``You come across as a strong person'' and girls will ask me about how I do my hair and make-up. It's cool.


Of course, you know about MTV's signature reality show ``Real World,'' but did you ever imagine you would be one of those people?


I remember having a conversation with Amanda before we joined. We ran into some people from ``Real World'' when we were in Las Vegas and they were telling us stuff they had to go through and I thought I could never do that. I'm a very private person and to put myself on camera didn't seem like something I ever wanted to do.

It took a bit of convincing, but my friends told me this would be an experience and I thought, ``Well, why not? Maybe I'll learn something from this or someone else can learn something from me.'' It was a great experience and I would do it all again.


So, have you decided to change your career path because of this experience?


``I'm a political science major and I'm thinking law school. But I feel like I can do anything now. This has been a really empowering experience. It's a natural thing to think you can do (acting) too after this. I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm not going to just sit back after this. I'm going to use it every way I can, I'm just not sure how right now.

Writing a book about the experience would be amazing. I'm still coming back to school in the fall and I'm going to graduate, but I'm not sure what's going to happen after that. I can't talk about it right now, but there will be a lot of questions you'll want to ask after the last episode airs (next month).''

ok, so we are assuming that the end is coming soon?

Re: for all you Jordan fans...
 

Sure, coincidence. :rolleyes:

They gave them CARS??? JEEZE!!

Must be nice.


TG