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irishpipes 03-24-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ARKTTKA (Post 2266888)
Irishpipes/Carnation - Do either of you know about the old DG house? Did they sell to UA or is UA leasing it?


DG still owns their house. The U is using it as the "University House" but if DG comes back, they get their house back. At least, that's what AOII was told when we came on. We used it for part of colony recruitment but it was not available to us after that. It is a great location and I hope DG can come back. They have a good alumnae base along with the house. It may need to be expanded. It seems like it was smaller than the other houses, but I could be wrong about that. It's a pretty house too.

ARKTTKA 03-24-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2266729)
I hope that no one tried to suggest that the sororities build on Stadium, lol. My freshman dorm was there and we could hear fraternity racket day and night. I can just imagine: a sorority would be having initiation or some glamorous party and through the windows they would be hearing rebel yells and Hog calls.

Yeah, the Theta house was the lone sorority house on Stadium Drive when I was in school. KD house was owned by University Baptist Church as I recall. I think the old DG and Phi Mu houses are UA offices now?

irishpipes 03-24-2014 03:45 PM

Interesting. Just found this online.

Phi Mu re-established their Alpha Beta Chapter in 2012 and will build their new home on Maple Street.

The article is 6 months old. I hope this is true that Phi Mu has a lot on Maple! If they do, my Fayetteville contacts don't know about it, but hopefully progress has been made!

carnation 03-24-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2266889)
It seems like it was smaller than the other houses, but I could be wrong about that. It's a pretty house too.

It seems like both the DG and the Theta houses were noticeably smaller than the others. But is there anywhere that the DG house could expand to? I don't remember what was next to it and behind it. Futrall Hall? The 4-H House?--but that was torn down. :mad:

When I was in school, the Theta house was on a corner of Maple close to the Animal Science Building.

ARKTTKA 03-25-2014 02:21 AM

When I was in school, the Theta house was on a corner of Maple close to the Animal Science Building.[/QUOTE]

You're right, Futrall is behind DG and Holcombe is behind Phi Mu/Theta.

Griffins&Quills 05-31-2014 03:45 PM

This thread is magic, Texas Tech and U of Florida are now open, or just really good at predicting haha

Smile_Awhile 05-31-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2266893)
Interesting. Just found this online.

Phi Mu re-established their Alpha Beta Chapter in 2012 and will build their new home on Maple Street.

The article is 6 months old. I hope this is true that Phi Mu has a lot on Maple! If they do, my Fayetteville contacts don't know about it, but hopefully progress has been made!

You lead me on a hunt, where I found this: about the UA Alpha Chi Omega house.


I might know more come August; a close family friend will be going through recruitment there this fall!

irishpipes 06-02-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smile_Awhile (Post 2276316)
You lead me on a hunt, where I found this: about the UA Alpha Chi Omega house.


I might know more come August; a close family friend will be going through recruitment there this fall!

Any idea where the lot is?

33girl 06-02-2014 02:32 PM

Re Colgate, just cause I got curious. Looking at the chapter websites, one only has 110 members. Is that chapter small/below total, was this quota of 65 some weird spike, or does the system have a retention problem?

ARKTTKA 06-02-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2276530)
Any idea where the lot is?

Based on the Kinco inset and the UA campus map, it looks to be between AOPi and KKG. I am assuming one is AXO and the other is Phi Mu. It also looks like LXA is under renovation and I know Pi Phi is planning a rebuild in the near future.

pinksequins 06-02-2014 03:16 PM

Colgate: You must be sophomore level to go through recruitment. It's a retention issue, though heaven knows there aren't many places to live in Hamilton, and there have been some town/gown issues in the past. I love, love, love the GPB blue house.

pinksequins 06-02-2014 03:27 PM

Clarification for Colgate: All of the groups have a retention issue. New member classes are huge because there are only 3 NPC groups, and, if you can dig up older copies of the University paper, the administration has not been Greek-friendly. Theta closed at Colgate roughly the same time that it closed at Johns Hopkins. Like JHU (now recolonized), I think Theta has an agreement to return at some point to Colgate.

wavycutchip 06-02-2014 04:56 PM

Re: Arkansas Lots - Yes. If you follow this link, and go to page 3 there is a better visual of where the two lots and houses will be: http://planning.uark.edu/capital_bud...phimu_arch.pdf

carnation 06-02-2014 06:59 PM

As some of you know, UA knocked down my grandmother's house after she died and the AOII House now backs right up to her former property. They built a huge parking lot over it. Now I guess they'll rip up the parking lot and part of the Phi Mu house will be on it, no matter which site is used.

I hope they treat her poodle's grave with respect.

33girl 06-02-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksequins (Post 2276545)
Clarification for Colgate: All of the groups have a retention issue. New member classesand are huge because there are only 3 NPC groups, and, if you can dig up older copies of the University paper, the administration has not been Greek-friendly. Theta closed at Colgate roughly the same time that it closed at Johns Hopkins. Like JHU (now recolonized), I think Theta has an agreement to return at some point to Colgate.

That's kind of what I figured. And to make a giant assumption with regards to northern vs southern sorority size, probably part of the retention issue is that the women feel the pledge classes are too big.

pinksequins 06-02-2014 10:28 PM

Exactly. Colgate Panhellenic believes that an optimal chapter size is around 100 to 120, and the chapters are far too large. (A similar argument in favor of expansion was made at W&L before ADPi colonized.) At least one women's group on campus has made the case (a la Dartmouth) for gender parity -- an equal number of fraternities and sororities. A lot of these letters are (or were) available on the University website. A very interesting University -- high academics and selectivity make it desirable, but there is a bucketful of challenges as well. Advising is a challenge -- a lot can be done long-distance, but Utica is the closest city and there isn't a large grad program (where there may be alumnae students). Syracuse/Manlius is a good 30 miles west.

clemsongirl 06-02-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksequins (Post 2276545)
Clarification for Colgate: All of the groups have a retention issue. New member classes are huge because there are only 3 NPC groups, and, if you can dig up older copies of the University paper, the administration has not been Greek-friendly. Theta closed at Colgate roughly the same time that it closed at Johns Hopkins. Like JHU (now recolonized), I think Theta has an agreement to return at some point to Colgate.

I think it's interesting that both groups continued to function as underground sororities after their charters were withdrawn. According to an article I found, Colgate's suspension of the Theta chapter ended this past school year, so it looks like a new Theta chapter could return as soon as this fall. I am curious to see how sorority life will grow on this campus.

Griffins&Quills 06-02-2014 11:14 PM

^ I'm curious when Clemson will open again ;)

clemsongirl 06-02-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2276608)
^ I'm curious when Clemson will open again ;)

In my opinion we could support at least one more chapter, probably two, and I hope that we vote to open after recruitment this fall! I could wax poetic about reasons for and against so I won't get myself started but I would love to have another group come on board.

Griffins&Quills 06-03-2014 09:20 AM

I was really hoping we would get it the last time y'all opened. Sigh. Perhaps the next time.

ukdzccd 06-18-2014 07:52 PM

University of Kentucky will be opening in the next year or so. There was interest expressed by Sigma Kappa (re-opening their chapter that closed here several years ago) but I believed they either passed on that opportunity.

After recruitment this coming August, chapter total will be approaching 250+ most likely which is far too large for this campus.

TSteven 06-18-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ukdzccd (Post 2278306)
University of Kentucky will be opening in the next year or so. There was interest expressed by Sigma Kappa (re-opening their chapter that closed here several years ago) but I believed they either passed on that opportunity.

After recruitment this coming August, chapter total will be approaching 250+ most likely which is far too large for this campus.

:eek: Wow. I am not sure, but I beleive 250 may be more than twice the average chapter size from when I was at UK.

Granted that was back in the last century. :cool:

ukdzccd 06-18-2014 09:43 PM

Yeah, me too. I was at UK 93-96 at total was 90. it's 220 now, I'm expecting a pledge class of 85-100 (last year quota was 82) which will push total up to around 250 I suspect.

it's crazy. None of these houses were designed to handle chapters this big. It's great that the system is as successful as it is, but we need another chapter. Kinda sad Sigma Kappa didn't decide to return this fall. Hopefully they'll be part of the discussion when it officially opens for expansion.

Griffins&Quills 06-19-2014 11:31 AM

I would love for us to recolonize our Xi chapter at UK

3DGator 06-19-2014 12:18 PM

Does anyone know if U of F has made a decision concerning bringing another sorority to campus?

TSteven 06-19-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ukdzccd (Post 2278314)
Yeah, me too. I was at UK 93-96 at total was 90. it's 220 now, I'm expecting a pledge class of 85-100 (last year quota was 82) which will push total up to around 250 I suspect.

it's crazy. None of these houses were designed to handle chapters this big. It's great that the system is as successful as it is, but we need another chapter. Kinda sad Sigma Kappa didn't decide to return this fall. Hopefully they'll be part of the discussion when it officially opens for expansion.

Isn't the land on Rose Lane from around Transylvania Park over to Woodland Avenue designated (zoned) for GLOs? If so, I suspect the sorority selected will have to be willing to build there. The up side is that the UK Administration continues to be supportive of new Greek housing.

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2278348)
I would love for us to recolonize our Xi chapter at UK

:) I am good friends with members of Xi Chapter and I know they would love to have their chapter back at UK as well.

ggforever 06-19-2014 01:33 PM

UF is open for extension. They voted last spring. PC is putting together a team for the presentations of the groups that are interested. Presentations will take place this fall with the hopes of the new house colonizing in 2015. There are now lots available to build a house (a must at UF) over by fraternity row. It will be interesting to see who presents! There are three NPCs with closed chapters but two of them are smaller and I am not sure what their ability would be to build a house right away.

irishpipes 06-19-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 3DGator (Post 2278354)
Does anyone know if U of F has made a decision concerning bringing another sorority to campus?

UF Panhellenic did vote to expand. I'm just speculating, but that announcement was made around June 1, so I would guess the actual selection of finalists and presentations won't be made until Fall.





ETA: Sorry to cross-post with you gg!

Griffins&Quills 06-19-2014 01:34 PM

Regarding UF, I know they're open for expansion. I don't know anything about if or who has submitted packets. I think presentations would be in the fall, because the sorority is supposed to colonize Fall 2015.

And regarding UK, fingers crossed, for if and when they open

Griffins&Quills 06-19-2014 01:35 PM

ggforever and irishpipes beat me to it

3DGator 06-19-2014 08:33 PM

Thank you
 
Thank you for all of your replies.

Cheerio 08-30-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2263978)
On your Honorable Mention list, I would add Missouri State University. Three years ago (2010), the sororities at MSU were a range of 129-188, with a quota of 60ish. This year, 4 of the 7 orgs have 200+ members, 1 is close to 200, and the other two are making strides. Quota this year was in the 80s. My observation.

BUMPING now that recruitment has commenced

DubaiSis 08-30-2014 03:20 PM

Without worrying our pretty little heads about pesky little problems like housing, both Iowa and Mizzou need to open.

catfan 08-30-2014 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=ukdzccd;2278314]Yeah, me too. I was at UK 93-96 at total was 90. it's 220 now, I'm expecting a pledge class of 85-100 (last year quota was 82) which will push total up to around 250 I suspect.

it's crazy. None of these houses were designed to handle chapters this big. It's great that the system is as successful as it is, but we need another chapter. Kinda sad Sigma Kappa didn't decide to return this fall. Hopefully they'll be part of the discussion when it officially opens for expansion.[/QUOte

For some reason, new chapters struggle at UK, when the numbers are their to support them. The exception being Alpha Phi. Phi Mu had a successful recruitment year this fall I 'm glad to report.
But since I've graduated, darks ages ago like TSteven, ZTA, Alpha XI Delta, and Gamma Phi Beta have closed. Sigma Kappa has come and gone, and I believe DZ recolonized after a brief hiatus. In the early 1970's we had an Alpha Chi Omega chapter that colonized the same year as Gamma Phi. Neither lasted long.
I heard a rumour several years ago that Alpha Chi was a potential recolonization. That would be great as there are no other AXO chapters in Kentucky, and I know several Ky girls pledged at Alabama in the last few years.

irishpipes 08-30-2014 09:42 PM

Total is now 249 at Kentucky. For a "less Greek" SEC school, that's an awfully big number!

Jimmy Choo 09-08-2014 12:45 AM

Another school to watch will be East Carolina after two years of record breaking numbers. The only drawback at ECU is finding viable housing.

LaneSig 09-08-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo (Post 2290395)
The only drawback is finding viable housing.

This statement can be applied to many schools on this list!

ShadeTree 09-08-2014 05:08 PM

UNC-Wilmington
 
Who is presenting at UNC-Wilmington?

Griffins&Quills 09-08-2014 05:36 PM

Apparently Delta Gamma, via the NPC thread. I must've missed the announcement that UNCW was open

Phigirl04 09-08-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo (Post 2290395)
Another school to watch will be East Carolina after two years of record breaking numbers. The only drawback at ECU is finding viable housing.

I think that could be overcome if a group bought a couple houses near campus, tore them down and built from scratch. It would be pricey but could work.


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