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Titchou 08-12-2012 01:15 PM

You'd have to get permission to drop her - and it would have to be something like she told the person who preffed her that she's pregnant - you find out she's out on bail from a drug arrest or something along those lines. I'm talking about what would qualify as a "no" rec and just learned at the last minute....

carnation 08-12-2012 01:29 PM

Excitement!!!! One more day!!!! War Eagle!

TNAuburnMom 08-12-2012 01:29 PM

I specifically told my daughter not to stab anyone or set the chapter house on fire ;-)

FSUZeta 08-12-2012 01:31 PM

Good advice for rush and in every day life! :-)

AUmom2012 08-12-2012 02:09 PM

My dau has 3 pref parties today. Her #1 pick cut her today but she is going to 2,3,4. Its hard for them to see how truly fortunate they are to have 3 parties, mine is lingering on the cut. Hopefully she'll snap out of it when she gets into her parties, and sees that theses want her to be a sister!! Truthfully, they are all good chapters, and she could fit easily into any of them, including the ones who cut her. There are so many girls that get cut only because they don't fit into the 'numbers' for parties, its harsh.

So....here's hoping we have fun at the parties, and her bid tomorrow is what she'd like.

With this astrophysic algorithm formula they use now, do they match them from the top of the sorority's bid list to the girl's 1,2,3 picks? I'm guessing that is the most reasonable way to do it.

KSUViolet06 08-12-2012 02:13 PM

ICS gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong:

Generally speaking (and without getting super complicated), the computer program is set up to try and match the PNM to their #1 choice first. If the #1 is unavailable (as in, she's not high enough on the list and they match quota before they come to her name), then the program moves on to #2 and attempts to match with #2, and if the same thing happens, on to #3.

wareagle93 08-12-2012 02:23 PM

Great news! Please keep us updated!

Titchou 08-12-2012 02:27 PM

KSUViolet you are exactly correct.

KDCat 08-12-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUmom2012 (Post 2166408)
My dau has 3 pref parties today. Her #1 pick cut her today but she is going to 2,3,4. Its hard for them to see how truly fortunate they are to have 3 parties, mine is lingering on the cut. Hopefully she'll snap out of it when she gets into her parties, and sees that theses want her to be a sister!! Truthfully, they are all good chapters, and she could fit easily into any of them, including the ones who cut her. There are so many girls that get cut only because they don't fit into the 'numbers' for parties, its harsh.

So....here's hoping we have fun at the parties, and her bid tomorrow is what she'd like.

With this astrophysic algorithm formula they use now, do they match them from the top of the sorority's bid list to the girl's 1,2,3 picks? I'm guessing that is the most reasonable way to do it.

Congratulations! That's wonderful.

She should be fine. It's easy to linger on being cut when you're waiting to get ready and/or getting ready. It's a lot harder to linger about the cut when you go to parties at houses you already like and see how wonderful their pref parties are.

AUmom2012 08-12-2012 02:50 PM

Thanks all for the encouragement and helpful advice!! I went through 30 years ago, 1982, so things are different, yet still the same. I'll just say it-you could be cut for any number of inane reasons, like your hair or your dress or your attitude or seeming too needy or just cause they didn't like you. We all know its the truth. But there has to be reasons to make those cuts because each chapter can't give a bid to everyone as they'd like to. With that said, the cuts have been harsh this year, lots of terrific girls going through. Lots of girls getting bids, lots of girls not really liking those bids at first, but they'll love their new sisters later on!!!

I will be soooo glad when tomorrow morning comes around. We are out of state but very close so we'll be going over for Bid Day!! Hey, and even being out of state has some bearing on those cuts, darn, I knew she should have gone to UGA!! LOL Well not really, WAR EAGLE!!

AUmom2012 08-12-2012 02:52 PM

Oh and to let you know how harsh cuts were....my dau's roomie is an in-house legacy and legacy, 2 different chapters. Got cut from both today. So sad.

carnation 08-12-2012 02:54 PM

oh, it's sad when an in-house legacy is cut.:(

Titchou 08-12-2012 02:56 PM

Ouch! Must not still be in the chapter or if she is the two don't get along.....

Just interested 08-12-2012 03:00 PM

I can't believe they waited until preference to release her. Very sad indeed.

Titchou 08-12-2012 03:05 PM

Well, they have to release her by then or she goes at the top of their bid list - as all legacies do that get to pref. I'd say it's not as strong a statement as if they had released her after the first day.

AUmom2012 08-12-2012 03:06 PM

Her roomie's sister didn't do Rush this year. She had an internship in Colorado and is arriving today. Big reason I think. Plus the pics on instagram of her weed paraphenalia didn't help either I'm sure. Do they ever learn??

KSUViolet06 08-12-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AUmom2012 (Post 2166432)
Her roomie's sister didn't do Rush this year. She had an internship in Colorado and is arriving today. Big reason I think. Plus the pics on instagram of her weed paraphenalia didn't help either I'm sure. Do they ever learn??

That'll do it.

YAUmom 08-12-2012 03:23 PM

Yeah
 
My d also has three today and one is her #1. I will say she did not have any preconceived preferences until after first cut. As an out of state student With little connections i think this was a good attitude. She said she is a good fit and likes all three. She is a very happy young lady!

Titchou 08-12-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2166435)
That'll do it.

Oh well...she must not have been reading GreekChat!

KDCat 08-12-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YAUmom (Post 2166442)
My d also has three today and one is her #1. I will say she did not have any preconceived preferences until after first cut. As an out of state student With little connections i think this was a good attitude. She said she is a good fit and likes all three. She is a very happy young lady!


Congratulations! I hope she has a wonderful pref night.

ladybug12 08-12-2012 03:44 PM

Agree
 
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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 2166430)
I can't believe they waited until preference to release her. Very sad indeed.

I totally agree Just interested. My personal opinion is that if there is a legacy that you know is going to be released (grades, poor decisions) that it is better to release her as early in the recruitment process as your GLO legacy policy allows. This gives her a better chance (hopefully) at maximizing her other options and finding a home.

Of course, it is hard for the mom, sister, grandmother to see it from this angle...as a national officer I hear a lot more of "I can't believe she was cut before skit day" rather than "I can't believe that she was cut!".

And yes, I know that the correct term is "release" but I don't think I have ever heard a mom use that word!

UGAalum94 08-12-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ladybug12 (Post 2166449)
I totally agree Just interested. My personal opinion is that if there is a legacy that you know is going to be released (grades, poor decisions) that it is better to release her as early in the recruitment process as your GLO legacy policy allows. This gives her a better chance (hopefully) at maximizing her other options and finding a home.

Of course, it is hard for the mom, sister, grandmother to see it from this angle...as a national officer I hear a lot more of "I can't believe she was cut before skit day" rather than "I can't believe that she was cut!".

And yes, I know that the correct term is "release" but I don't think I have ever heard a mom use that word!

Certainly, you have more experience and knowledge than I do, but wouldn't these late cut situations come about with legacies that you know don't know will be releases? Aren't these probably the ones who the chapter really does want to consider, but ultimately isn't sure that they want to be on the first bid list ahead of girls that they maybe want more. Or maybe they are the legacies that wouldn't fit on the first bid list if there are that many going through.

Titchou 08-12-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AUmom2012 (Post 2166432)
. Plus the pics on instagram of her weed paraphenalia didn't help either I'm sure. Do they ever learn??

And this is an example of something that will get you released at pref! Or just before....

ladybug12 08-12-2012 04:07 PM

UGAalum, good point. I can't really comment further without giving out too much information....

carnation 08-12-2012 04:12 PM

I know a situation in which a double in-house legacy was cut at the last minute. No one could bring themselves to tell the sisters that they wanted to cut her so they found out from a hysterical call from their sister. One quit immediately. The sister pledged another house and last I heard, was happy.

I don't know how you can bring this up delicately to a sorority member that you plan to cut her sister.

KSUViolet06 08-12-2012 04:18 PM

^^^^I've said for a long time that sister legacy issues are harder to deal with than moms. At least you don't have to be in the same room as mom right after you cut her daughter.

carnation 08-12-2012 04:26 PM

And in-house sister situations are truly the worst. I assume the PNM's sisters had to leave while they were discussing her but surely they were aware of the serious issues that must have led to her cutting.

arrowlady 08-12-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2166466)
^^^^I've said for a long time that sister legacy issues are harder to deal with than moms. At least you don't have to be in the same room as mom right after you cut her daughter.

or live with her for the next couple of years...

TNAuburnMom 08-12-2012 04:35 PM

My daughter is in her third party now. She loved both of her first two and said she has no idea how to rank them. I told her to keep an open mind for sorority #3 and then follow her heart. It speaks really well of Auburn's system that these girls love all of their pref chapters.

KDCat 08-12-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TNAuburnMom (Post 2166473)
My daughter is in her third party now. She loved both of her first two and said she has no idea how to rank them. I told her to keep an open mind for sorority #3 and then follow her heart. It speaks really well of Auburn's system that these girls love all of their pref chapters.

Congratulations! That's wonderful.

Tomorrow will be so much fun!

irishpipes 08-12-2012 04:54 PM

I wrote a rec this year for a PNM who is a double in-house legacy, but she really did not want to pledge her sisters' chapter. She didn't really have an issue with the chapter, but had always been in the shadow of her siblings and wanted to branch out on her own. Her recruitment just ended, and I guess she got cut massively first round by the non-legacy groups and by the end of the week had nothing left but the legacy chapter. She did accept her bid but is very upset. I hope she gives it a chance.

I warned her that as an in-house legacy assumptions might be made by other chapters. I feel for her.

UGAalum94 08-12-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2166481)
I wrote a rec this year for a PNM who is a double in-house legacy, but she really did not want to pledge her sisters' chapter. She didn't really have an issue with the chapter, but had always been in the shadow of her siblings and wanted to branch out on her own. Her recruitment just ended, and I guess she got cut massively first round by the non-legacy groups and by the end of the week had nothing left but the legacy chapter. She did accept her bid but is very upset. I hope she gives it a chance.

I warned her that as an in-house legacy assumptions might be made by other chapters. I feel for her.

Was this at Auburn? I'm just throw off about how she has a bid to accept already.

Under the circumstances, if it is at Auburn, I think you'd assume that she's getting that bid, but bid day is tomorrow right?

shirley1929 08-12-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 2166482)
Was this at Auburn? I'm just throw off about how she has a bid to accept already.

Under the circumstances, if it is at Auburn, I think you'd assume that she's getting that bid, but bid day is tomorrow right?

My guess is that it was at OK State, but she's putting it here in the discussion of in-house legacies...

KSUViolet06 08-12-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2166468)
And in-house sister situations are truly the worst. I assume the PNM's sisters had to leave while they were discussing her but surely they were aware of the serious issues that must have led to her cutting.

Right. Even if you have the "what's talked about in here stays in here" rule, she's GOING to find out, and she's NOT going to be happy about it (even if this reasoning is valid like GPA, weed pics, etc.)

FSUZeta 08-12-2012 06:12 PM

Auburn girls get their bids tomorrow.

AUmom2012 08-12-2012 06:21 PM

Oh the situation on the in-house legacy I was referring to was with the in-house sister not participating in Rush as she was out of town. I suspect the cut was easier to make with her not there.

And as far as bids go, if you went to a pref party today as a legacy, you will be at that chapter's top of bid list per their nationals rules (Ithink).

My dau did go to three parties today so most likely will receive a bid from one of the three. She really likes her 1 pick and could be happy in 2 or 3. Being out of state has been difficult. There aren't enough girls from our hometown to make a push in the sororities, and that makes a HUGE difference. We had 4 girls I think going through Rush from here, at UGA there were 17 girls....see what I mean. My dau cut her legacy chapter, which was fine with me, it was a good safety net for the week. I know she'll be happy anywhere!

DeltaBetaBaby 08-12-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUmom2012 (Post 2166500)

And as far as bids go, if you went to a pref party today as a legacy, you will be at that chapter's top of bid list per their nationals rules (Ithink).

Membership selection is private information.

Titchou 08-12-2012 07:13 PM

First of all, being from out of state makes NO DIFFERENCE at Auburn or Alabama or most anywhere else in the SEC. Alabama had about an even split last year with in and out of state PNMs. Auburn has so many GA and FL students that it would be impossible to purposely keep the chapters skewed to in state members.

Second of all, putting legacies on the first bid list is not private membership selection information. The software has a place to mark the legacies so it runs them first - at least ICS does. And it's the main software PHs are using these days.

AUmom2 08-12-2012 07:22 PM

Being from out of state MAY make a difference at Auburn. There are some sororities that, all else being equal, would take a young lady from Alabama first.

DeltaBetaBaby 08-12-2012 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2166523)
Second of all, putting legacies on the first bid list is not private membership selection information. The software has a place to mark the legacies so it runs them first - at least ICS does. And it's the main software PHs are using these days.

While I realize many groups choose to use this feature, they are not obligated to do so, i.e. the CPH can not say "your legacies MUST be on the top of your bid list". Further, it is possible to have more legacies attending prefs than quota, in which case, a legacy could go receive a bid from a chapter other than her legacy chapter.

A PNM (or her mother, as the one I quoted) should never go into pref thinking she is a "sure thing" just because she is returning to her legacy chapter.


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