Reread the sentence: should not be participating in formal recruitment while interviewingx with Delta Gamma...operative word being "while" - meaning simultaneously, at the same time. Before or after is OK....Not while.

Sorry for trying to be helpful. I just didn't want a confused PNM to think that they should withdraw NOW if they wanted any chance at DG (like it was an either/or scenario). The original question was about withdrawal, and my only clarification was "hey, go through the process and if you're not finding your home after that process, then interview with DG and give it a shot".

I should have stayed a lurker...

I didn't intend to come across as harsh...just that I did say "while" and I generally feel that people should be able to understand what that means. I say what I mean and mean what I say. (as a child, my father always got onto me for trying to back track on what I meant by telling me that he only knew what I said, not what I meant to say - so I do try to be crystal clear with what I say).

How does the snap bidding process work? Is this for girls who don't get matched with the houses they went to for pref?

Got it...even though most of the post above sounds like word vomit to me... :)

I just was trying to be really clear for those mamas and PNM's who are nervous/freaking out/unsure etc... They might see what you read and think "oh I need to drop out right now or I'll have no chance at DG." Since it's such a delicate process and tensions are high on BOTH sides, I want to make sure everyone's clear and calm. And I just hate being snarked at for trying to be nice and helpful.

Not to be snarky myself but perhaps if the PNM doesn't understand what "while" means we might thereby discern why she is no longer participating in FR....

Yes...it happens Bid Day....if the chapters have room in quota. If they took quota but are below total, it is called Continuous Open Bidding (COB) or Continuous Open Recruitment (COR) and they can issue those bids at any time they wish.

So it's only for girls who made it through the pref round? COB at my school was a designated time much later in the year and with these numbers going through I wasn't sure if there would be room left for those later.

No, its not just for PNMs that made it to pref. A chapter that doesn't make quota may offer a snap bid to any PNM who didn't receive a bid, either because she withdrew at anytime during recruitment or didn't match after preference. COB is for any chapter that is under total and happens after bids are issued and continues until the end of the school year and COB bids may be issued to any eligible woman.

COB and snap bidding are two different things. Snap bidding is done on Bid Day only. COB/COR continues throughout the school year.

Thanks for clarifying!

I didn't think PNMs who withdrew were eligible for snaps?

Had ten invites for round 2. All of my top 5 were included.
Had six invites for today, I was cut by one I really wanted to get to know better, oh well I’m not a beauty queen. Another exhausting day.

Technically, anyone the chapter wants to give a bid to is eligible for snap bidding, whether she went thru formal recruitment or not. In actuality, that probably would never happen (secret MS info here) but it "could".

Quote from the NPC Manual of Information

If Preferential Bidding is used, women who indicate an Intentional
Single Preference and do not receive an invitation to membership are
eligible for Snap Bidding and Continuous Open Bidding, but are not
eligible for Quota Addition.
Resolved (1995), That a Potential New Member who withdraws from
the Fully Structured Recruitment process before the signing of her
membership acceptance shall be eligible for Snap Bidding and
Continuous Open Bidding.

With a recruitment this large how many PNM'S would attend each Pref. Party? I can't imagine having to narrow down the lists with this large of a recruitment.

Heard from one of my girls at Bama that over 400 girls have withdrawn or been released from recruitment. Wow.

Luckily, my girls who are going through recruitment are doing great! Thread coming post-recruitment, pending positive results.

Thanks for saving me the time to find it!

For those wondering, I won't get into MS, too much, but before we did our final lists, the GL office would provide a list of women who didn't finish recruitment for excused reasons. So, let's say Suzie PNM went to three rounds at a chapter, and was invited to pref, but was then was urgently called away, so she missed pref, and never signed a card. By putting Suzie on a snap list, the chapter is saying "if we don't make quota, the GL office is authorized to call Suzie and offer her a bid to our chapter".

Seeing that most groups don't invite women to pref who they wouldn't be willing to bid in the first place, missing out on Suzie would be sad for both sides.

They have 4 pref parties so it's not that bad numbers wise....

I bet alot of girls that aren't happy with their list, will drop to interview with DG. I've seen that happen before, and when I was in school, it was actually encouraged. That was before RFM.

I'm waiting to hear from my rec girl this morning. Does anyone know what time pref. invitations are given out?

By who? The colonizing chapter or Panhellenic?

I might be putting this wrong but I would think that the girls DG will want the most are those who WERE happy with the invites they had, but dropped anyway because they wanted to pursue DG.

Invitations went out at 12:00 Bama time. I'm hearing of very deep cuts - quite a few really quality girls only having two invitations to Skit Parties and strange things like a girl with a 2.85 being invited to 3rd round for the sorority with the highest grades traditionally. She is a legacy to that group but still...... Rumors are flying hot & heavy about what is going on.

1) Holy smokes, that's a lot of PNMs. True story about how one Bama Rho Chi group would probably be bigger than the entirety of Otterbein Greek life!

2) Also, those poor women have got to be exhausted. All of them. I hope there is room in the budget for the Panhel recruitment officers to go on vacation (a long one) after this is all done.

3) Thanks for the link to the facebook photos
3.1) Now I finally understand what you people are talking about when you say "door stacking" and things like that. I'm a visual learner, what can I say
3.2) It felt like I was looking at a catalog...so many pretty dresses!

With the GPA thing, the way I've heard it is the highest GPA houses can take a risk on a girl they really like because one person isn't going to torpedo your average. The chapter with the lowest GPA has to really stick to their guns on GPA because it is so hard to improve an icky number.

I would think NOBODY is happy with all these girls dropping out thinking they've got an in with DG. Anyone who followed GC last year should know a LOT of girls were very disappointed to not get into a colony, particularly the A Phi colony comes to mind. It could end up harder to get into DG at Bama than through regular formal! And it's not like the chapters aren't going to be huge without these 400 girls. They won't have room to make up for a loss later just because so many girls made a hasty decision. I do wish them all the best, but fear the worst.

I'm interested to hear how many DG eventually takes, and how soon people start talking about the next colony!

Nhfilmer...today is Pref at Bama. Yesterday was Skits and tomorrow is Bid Day!!

Bama
 

I'm looking at ICS figures right now, says 258 have withdrawn thus far (and some of those are girls who did not end up showing up for recruitment). Still over 1500 PNMs in recruitment. That number will probably change, next to last pref party about to start.

Good luck to all the PNMs...may they all find their new happy homes!

Reading threads on GC and with people I know of who rushed at UGA, it seems to me that more girls are being completely released (or it could just be more girls I know are) this year. Does anyone else have that same sense of things or do I have a weird sample of girls this year?

I think this is a pretty remarkable retention rate, especially for Bama. It's great to hear!

is there a formal procedure for withdrawal? How do you know if someone just doesn't show up?

I've heard the same. It's been either feast or famine for all the girls we know; perfect rushes (well, not at UGa) or releases.

Questions your daughter should ask her Recruitment Counselor.

Yes there is a withdrawal process but if you stop showing up they assume you have dropped out.

Attendance is also taken at each party for each round (so they know in minutes). If you skip a party because you dont like the chapter, but attend other parties, that isnt good. Most Panhellenics will automatically withdrawal a PNM from the recruitment process for doing that and rightfully so.

I know the schedule. Invitations for Preference Parties went out at noon todaay and bids for membership go out tomorrow.

3 invites today
2 were my top 2 the 3rd I didn't understand
dreading that call

Worrying's just praying for something bad to happen.

Go to the parties with fresh eyes.

Pretend that there are no others and that these are the only chapters you've encounter. It helps you to really focus on whether you can see yourself in one of them (instead of on all the
groups that cut you.)

Also, remember that whether you have a full slate, or 2 or one, you can only get one bid.

Violet, that is great advice! (from a first time poster, but a long time lurker!!!)

^ My Ohio friend (KSUViolet) is very wise.

Now that it is down to the final three, you have a great opportunity to deeply consider those three as individual chapters, not as three blips in the whirlwind of recruitment. Forget that the others exist. Focus on these chapters. Have fun!