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SH80er 11-26-2001 12:55 PM

Re: ???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Forgive a question from an old lady who's been out of circulation for a few years....Saran Wrap? What do you do with it? Like you'd tear off a sheet and put it on your you-know-what? Eeeew! :confused:
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Have you ever seen "Booty Call"?

AOIIAngel 11-26-2001 01:33 PM

OMG, I fell OFF my chair laughing so hard at that cartoon. that was funny!!! You people are just crazy, you know that? Its a good thing no one is here when I read these, cause I crack up at everyone I read!!! But in answer to the saran wrap/condom thing, nope, I agree it is so much better to NOT have anything there. We need to rename this thread the "No shame in sex" thread.

ErikaXO 11-26-2001 01:44 PM

I can't imagine wrapping the goods for oral sex. You'd have to be really careful about what kind of condom you used. One time we had used one with the spermicidal crap on it and after he took it off I was "nosing around" down there.....just suffice it to say that spermicidal lubricant is the most nasty, disgusting tasting stuff....plus it can't be too healthy!!!!!!!! Nobody has ever felt compelled to saran wrap me, at least not down there, but you know.....the stuff has possibilities elswhere!!!!!;)

justamom 11-26-2001 02:12 PM

YOU GUYS!!!! I've decided to make an observaton pertaining to the degree of interest and carnal knowledge of this topic.

Chi-O and AXO are neck and neck, but you DZ's are coming on pretty strong! WHERE ARE THE ZTAs on this matter!!!

SH80er you sure know how to keep a topic roling!

juniorgrrl 11-26-2001 02:39 PM

*blush*
 
I haven't had a chance to check out this thread until just now.

I'm blushing.

And possibly the only virgin here, but by choice.

My guy and I have been together 4+ years. Now, its just an endurance contest. We've made it this long, what's another 2 or 3? I know 100% without a doubt that we are compatible, even though we have not had sex.

But that's going to be one amazing wedding night :D

SH80er 11-26-2001 02:41 PM

Re: *blush*
 
Quote:

Originally posted by juniorgrrl
I haven't had a chance to check out this thread until just now.

I'm blushing.

And possibly the only virgin here, but by choice.

My guy and I have been together 4+ years. Now, its just an endurance contest. We've made it this long, what's another 2 or 3? I know 100% without a doubt that we are compatible, even though we have not had sex.

But that's going to be one amazing wedding night :D

You're not the only virgin (hint, hint). :p

AlphaSigLana 11-26-2001 03:32 PM

What's your definition of a virgin? I once dated a guy- the swimmer who said as long as he didn't ejacualte in a girl he was still a virgin. he's the guy who dumped me bc I was a bad influence and he was going to the seminary. He never did go. Oh yeah did I mention this was a few days after V-day(a few yrs ago) after HE bought me LINGERIE!!!!!!!
SO I guess my question is if you cum in a girls mouth(I'd like to ask him) then does that mean you aren't a virgin- bc you did ejaculate in a girl!

PKTSU01 11-26-2001 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaSigLana
What's your definition of a virgin? I once dated a guy- the swimmer who said as long as he didn't ejacualte in a girl he was still a virgin. he's the guy who dumped me bc I was a bad influence and he was going to the seminary. He never did go. Oh yeah did I mention this was a few days after V-day(a few yrs ago) after HE bought me LINGERIE!!!!!!!
SO I guess my question is if you cum in a girls mouth(I'd like to ask him) then does that mean you aren't a virgin- bc you did ejaculate in a girl!

i just love how guys change rules around to make it fit there actions. Bottom line, you put it in a woman, you ARE NOT a virgin. As far as the BJ question goes, even if you do pop in a girls mouth, you're still a virgin. A mouth and the box are totally different things. i can't believe that dude was serious.

kimmykimmy 11-26-2001 05:02 PM

Ok, I have to pipe in. I have been with a guy, the condom broke and he asked me if I had ANYTHING, saran wrap or even a SANDWICH bag. Weird. Regardless, we didn't continue until we went to the drug store.

HOWEVER, saran wrap used to be used in the 50s and 60s. In fact, in Grease, in the Greased Lighting scene, Danny has saran wrap in his car. That is why. The producers of Grease insisted saran wrap be taken out of the scene but somehow it made it in. And, when Danny rubs the saran wrap by his "waist" that is a small gesture as to what they used to use in the "old days."

Interesting, huh?!!!

IowaHawkeye 11-26-2001 05:13 PM

just a note - saran wrap, sandwich bags, plastic bags - are all useless in the prevention of the spread of disease and semen - don't let guys fool you into thinking that if they don't have a condom, they can wrap their package with saran wrap :D

dzsaigirl 11-26-2001 05:26 PM

My ex-roomie STILL thinks that you are a virgin so long as the guy doesn't come in you and she goes around saying she's a virgin...whatever! She's been with like 6 guys...but if they didn't come in here! Oh dear! She must be as pure as the Virgin Mary!!! :P Give me a friggin' break!!!!!!!! Some people need to be strangled for their stupidity!!!

SH80er 11-26-2001 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
just a note - saran wrap, sandwich bags, plastic bags - are all useless in the prevention of the spread of disease and semen - don't let guys fool you into thinking that if they don't have a condom, they can wrap their package with saran wrap :D
LOL! :D

KillarneyRose 11-26-2001 06:01 PM

Don't y'all remember Slick Willie wagging his finger at the TV cameras and announcing, "I did NOT have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"? So, at least according to the former President, oral communication is no communication at all! :rolleyes:

I have waaaay too much to say on this post! lol

SH80er 11-26-2001 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaSigLana
What's your definition of a virgin?
Someone who hasn't had penis and vagina intercouse. "Going down" is area grey area, IMO.
If anyone's thinking, no, I've never went downtown nor vice versa.

Belly button humping isn't sex nor masturbation.

damasa 11-26-2001 07:18 PM

damn..this thread really popped off...time to add in my likes/dislikes

I love girls that are bald or almost totally shaven down south.
To me, personally, it looks better and feels better, and not to mention, it helps me to get my "oral communication" on better.

So now onto that. Yes, that's right, I am alright with going down on a girl, no shame in my game here, and believe it or not, i like doing it! CHA CHA CHA

As for my southern region, I like a very good trim, I don't like much hair down there, it looks like the damn amazon!

I've been doing it for quite sometime now, so, I don't get razor bumps and it doesn't itch when it comes back. I did for the first 2 or 3 times, but after that...I have had no problems.

damasa man with no shame!

justamom 11-26-2001 08:14 PM

I thought the wrap was used frequently in Lesbian relationships.
Since you can transmit disease through 69, I though some of the NY clubs had it around ad that's where it all took off.

As far as what's a virgin and what's not? Penetration of course.
Oral sex-no. That's purely a biological answer. If you bring morality into it, I still don't think it constitutes a loss of status.
If that were true, half the girls who rode a horse or fell off a boys bike would fail the "stain" test. In my mind, I equate love with the intention of marriage to be marriage in God's eyes-if you make your own vows before Him.

aggieAXO 11-26-2001 11:38 PM

I think you can also use dental dams for oral sex -I guess a dentist would know what this is.

Ok gals since we have gone this far and no shame is the game: spit or swallow-
please feel free to comment

ErikaXO 11-26-2001 11:40 PM

I can't believe that anyone in this day and age is confused about the definition of a virgin....guys, if your penis has been in a vagina, even for one second, you are not a virgin. Girls, if a penis (attached to a guy, the kind you buy at Ambiance don't count) is ever inserted in your nether region, you are not a virgin. Case closed.

On the subject of virgins, though, did you know that two virgins can create a pregnancy without having sex? Happened to someone we know. These kids had pledged to wait, I think they were in that "Love Waits" thing or whatever, and I guess when they were fooling around one night he blew one a little too close to her pelvic region....one of those little guys made it all the way home....the parents didn't believe the understandably bewildered kids when they said they hadn't had sex, but the girl's doctor confirmed it!!!! So watch where he spills the goods!!! Those sperm are determined little buggers....

ErikaXO 11-27-2001 12:08 AM

Sorry, missed the spit or swallow one.....my general rule of thumb, swallow, unless there is a hair in it or he is someone you aren't entirely sure of, in which case maybe it is better not to have his Johnson in your mouth!!!!!!!! I have no problem with swallowing but like I say, the hair issue again.....sends me running to the bathroom faster than you can say, "Gee thanks hon, that was great!"

aggieAXO 11-27-2001 12:35 AM

hey guys also want your opinion-does it turn you off if a girl does not swallow?

PKTSU01 11-27-2001 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by aggieAXO
hey guys also want your opinion-does it turn you off if a girl does not swallow?
YUP! I do, so should she;)

PKTSU01 11-27-2001 12:42 AM

By the way, i'm casting my vote for this as thread of the year:cool:

AlphaChiGirl 11-27-2001 12:42 AM

Wow, this is more than I've told a lot of people!
 
Okay, I was a dorm counselor last year, where we learned all the fun of latex!

I actually had an envelope filled with dental dams on my door, as well as 3 different types of condoms, and latex gloves (and a pouch in which to put change). We had to learn how to use (yes) each one before we put them on our doors, and we had to demonstrate (with a cucumber) how to put one on if we were going to distribute them. Dental dams are little squares of (nonlubricated, powder-free) latex, that you place on top of the area you're...servicing (we could not be heterosexist in our presentation) and dig in from there. We were also told that you could cut the tip of a condom off and cut along the side, or use saran wrap in a bind.

Spit or swallow...man...I don't know. I mean, I guess some dudes could think it rude if you spit, but some guys...spurt...a lot more than others. You could end up with QUITE a mouthful (espech if he's excited). So, I guess it depends on the instance (mood, position, etc).

Since we're defining intercourse as "tab a in slot b", what about Lesbian relationships? Are all lesbians technically "virgins"?

I forgot to mention body hair...I feel as if when you shave, you won't want to go back. Yeah, it itches the first two or three times, but eventually, it doesn't happen anymore, and you really won't want to stop.

aggieAXO 11-27-2001 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKTSU01


YUP! I do, so should she;)

That's cool, I don't mind swallowing but damn you guys need to give a little warning like an ohhhhh just beforehand cause I almost choked one time-

oh lord this thread is pulling things out of me that I would never discuss

alphaxidelta12 11-27-2001 01:02 AM

nice turnout
 
i can't believe this thread has gotten this big. i am still kind of new to gc and i thought maybe i was pushing it by asking a question like that, but obviously it has brought out many different things that many GCers wouldn't have regularly talked about :D there really is NO shame in here, but its cool...it seems like some people are really learning some stuff :D

PKTSU01 11-27-2001 01:05 AM

Hey,
I look at it this way. If you are mature enough to strip down and get funky, there is no reason why ya shouldn't be able to talk about it just as easily. Sex is part of human nature... a VERY fun part of human nature. No shame in admitting we enjoy pleasures of the flesh, I mean I sure as F*$K will admit that I do.:)

dzsaigirl 11-27-2001 01:10 AM

Ohmygosh!!!! Yuck yuck yuck...okay, so maybe I am a huge prude, but I have never been in a situation where I needed to choose spit or swallow, but I really think that I would barf/gag, so I don't think it would be a "choice". I think that whenever that happens, I am going to be very surprised...hopefully he will give me the "heads up" for lack of a better term ;)

alphaxidelta12 11-27-2001 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKTSU01
Hey,
I look at it this way. If you are mature enough to strip down and get funky, there is no reason why ya shouldn't be able to talk about it just as easily. Sex is part of human nature... a VERY fun part of human nature. No shame in admitting we enjoy pleasures of the flesh, I mean I sure as F*$K will admit that I do.:)

i completely agree...if you're not big enough to talk about it you probably aren't big enough to do it. (no pun intended...look at the original question...lol)

SigkapAlumWSU 11-27-2001 01:34 AM

Ok, I've sat here reading this thread long enough, now I have to write!

To whover had the guy with the pinkie finger size: I had a guy like that once too.. I just couldn't believe my eyes, and people still don't belive me when I tell them! In that case there was no motion that was gonna do anything for me.

I agree that guys need to give more of a warning, cause some of us just don't like to choke.

I personally wish that some guys would at least try to keep themselves a little bit groomed, just for our sake.. too much hair is just, well, not good. I was actually asked if I would shave it all off once, and I never went back.


Geeze.. this is a pretty open thread.. oh, the things we know now....

KillarneyRose 11-27-2001 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dzsaigirl
I have never been in a situation where I needed to choose spit or swallow, but I really think that I would barf/gag, so I don't think it would be a "choice".
Sweetie, it's no different than doing a shot of Cuervo. Just do it and don't think about it! :)

Ok, some of you ladies go the shaving route, some go the waxing route. I am one of the latter, but of course that gets darn expensive. Is it worth it to pay all that money to get waxed? You shavers out there, how often do you have to do it? Then there's the stubble factor I'm not too sure I'd be crazy about. Help?

HeidiHo 11-27-2001 11:48 AM

I know I'm a waxer so I shouldn't be answering, but my biggest issue with shaving is ingrowns & stubble. I'd rather shell out the $$ and be smooth for a month+ than have to shave everyday & battle ingrown hairs. I don't know why, but I am so prone to those bitc^#s. It sucks
Heidi

madmax 11-27-2001 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ErikaXO
Ok first of all SH80er, every woman is different in what she likes. I like it to start out gently and slowly and build up to a frenzy, but then when he gets me there he's gotta go slow and gently again so I can ride it out.

Did I just write that?????My God.....I have no shame anymore....

Secondly, as to the whole loss of virginity thing.....being with someone you love is so much better. I lost it to someone I was crazy about but was not in a relationship with. I ended up feeling pretty used. And we could have had so much more fun if we HAD been in a relationship. I was kind of crazy after that, it was like "well I did it so I may as well keep doing it." But then with my boyfriend of 4 1/2 years it was different. After that, I realized that I wasn't just going to give myself to ANYone. There was only one other after that until I started dating my husband. And he was my real awakening.

The hottest time my husband and I ever had was that week when things started moving from just kissing to going all the way. I can remember vividly those make-out sessions, tentative yet passionate, growing a little more intense each time. And there was always the tantalizing promise of what was going to happen the next time. That is the period to savor. I mean, it's great once you are in a full-scale sexual relationship but I am telling you, that buildup period is unbelievable.

By the way guys, once you and the girl have said the L word, you no longer need to use reverse psychology on her or try to pretend you aren't interested in sex just to impress her. If it is obviously serious between the two of you and you are dying to do it to her, if she gives you the green light just go for it!!!! The night I finally had sex with Brent he was busy (ahem) elsewhere and I grabbed him by the ears and pulled him up to my face and growled "Brent, I want you to f%$& me right now!" I expected him to pounce immediately and keep the momentum rolling. Uh, no. He says, "Well, maybe we should TALK about this....." Oh my God!!!! Then I'm like, "He doesn't want to have sex with me...." Of course, after we "talked about it" we went at it like crazy but I have to say hearing the "I don't want any regrets tomorrow morning" chat from a guy who is supposed to be crazy about you kiind of takes the bloom off the rose. Later he confessed that he was going out of his mind wanting to but he felt he had to give me the little "talk" treatment so I'd know he loved me and respected me and would WANT to do it with him. (Duh....if I hadn't wanted to I wouldn't have grabbed you by the ears!!!!)
Men!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Penthouse Forum material... I want to marry Erica!!!!!

ErikaXO 11-27-2001 01:44 PM

Why gee, Max, thank you!! (blushing)

While we are on the whole spit or swallow thing, I have to say that at times, let's face it, it isn't so much about the amount of the stuff but the taste of it. It's, uh....different! The absolute worst in my opinion is coffee cum. I can always tell when he's been drinking too much coffee....I love coffee as much as anyone but when it is processed THAT way it is just nasty. I've heard that women can influence their "aroma" and "flavor" also by what they eat. Some women swear by grapefruit....makes things all clean and sweet and refreshing. Wouldn't you say, though, even without the food factor, women just taste a little better? No offense to the guys because it isn't like it's totally gross or anything....

By the way Killarney, great analogy!!!! What a visual!!!! (You want a lime and some salt with that???) Kind of gives new meaning to the term, "body shots!!!!!!!"

SH80er 11-27-2001 01:55 PM

After reading all of this, I don't think I could ever go downtown! UGH.

ZTAngel 11-27-2001 03:22 PM

Don't worry SH80er. It's not that awful. Sure, there are better tasting things out there. But, I promise you, when you find a guy that you love, you will not at all mind going downtown! As for the taste....just like Killarney said about the shot of Cuervo. Just grin and bear it! ;)

madmax 11-27-2001 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by ErikaXO
Why gee, Max, thank you!! (blushing)

While we are on the whole spit or swallow thing, I have to say that at times, let's face it, it isn't so much about the amount of the stuff but the taste of it. It's, uh....different! The absolute worst in my opinion is coffee cum. I can always tell when he's been drinking too much coffee....I love coffee as much as anyone but when it is processed THAT way it is just nasty. I've heard that women can influence their "aroma" and "flavor" also by what they eat. Some women swear by grapefruit....makes things all clean and sweet and refreshing. Wouldn't you say, though, even without the food factor, women just taste a little better? No offense to the guys because it isn't like it's totally gross or anything....

By the way Killarney, great analogy!!!! What a visual!!!! (You want a lime and some salt with that???) Kind of gives new meaning to the term, "body shots!!!!!!!"


Erica... I just want to let you know that , I don't drink coffee.. :)

dzsaigirl 11-27-2001 09:38 PM

Okay...this question is for the guys. If a man's bodily fluid supposedly gets influenced by diet, are the woman's fluids ALSO affected? Should we all eat a handful of roses and some perfume or something? ;)

Miami1839 11-27-2001 10:05 PM

I wonder if womens fluids are nutritious. :) I always swallow.......only female fluids of course. I dont do any grooming but if I had a girl I wouldnt be opposed to her doing what she wanted. Her wish is my command. :)

Better than Cuervo LOL or Wild Turkey even. Ha ha.


James 11-27-2001 10:36 PM

Wow, I left this thread for a while and it really got off to a good long run . . . so to speak.

Size: the only male human beings that have told me that size does not matter, have been small. 'Nuff said on that topic. The rest don't say much at all . . .

Hair: The less hair South of the Border the better, but becareful ladies! My mind reflects back to when the flavor of the moment cut herself . . . the shout shook the house :eek: .

I guess we guys could trim it up a bit . . . I'll be sure to post a reference on our National Listserv about it, should spark some debate, and collectively you ladies do represent PanHell . . .

Let me pause and laugh for a second, imagine if that came out as a unanimous resolution . . . .?

Resolved, the members of National Sororities will not mix, nor socialize, with Fraternity Chapters that don't have acceptable grooming standards South of the Border. (See attachment II for pictures comparing and contrasting)

(James shifts tone and starts to lazily drawl)

Miami1839, I have no idea of the nutritient value of woman's fluid, I just take it on faith that it has been solely responsible for my continued youthful appearance, my constant healthy flush, and my baby soft skin. And of course my lack of fear of public speaking . . . if you can successfully verbalize down there for some hours with a rough audience and a harsh critic, trust me when I tell you that having to speak to a mere few thousand human souls is no challenge at all! :cool:

I would fear to be deprived of such largesse, would I suddenly age and stutter? I dare not test it.

ErikaXo you have to win my award for the "Most Extreme GC'er of the Week" Or The Extreme for short. With Killarney Rose as a close second . . . For . . . "complete and utter candor well beyond the call of duty in the service humour, male-female relations, and plain old fashion good sex."

You make me wish we had a Chi Omega Chapter here and that they were all your clones . . . ahh but the school might burn down . . . and we'd all be having too much fun to care . :)

PS. There is a simple 4 dollar over the counter pill that will give your SO more length, girth, and hardness. Ask if interested.

Miami1839 11-27-2001 10:46 PM

james, strikes again. ha ha.

no, I dont need viagra and I am not small...... I have the strength of a 100 lions and the stamina of a 1000 cheetahs in the bedroom. Added with my huge python that has yet to be tamed.......


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