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SydneyK 03-31-2010 08:51 AM

I'm disappointed that there wasn't an enhanced version of Ab Aeterno last night. And the countdown to V logo was completely irritating!

Other than that, I really enjoyed last night's episode.

LegallyBrunette 03-31-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1912000)
^^To the "hidden" message...

Maybe it's called "Lost" :p

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Originally Posted by IlovemyAKA (Post 1912022)
@ hidden: it said no "a" and one "e". I was thinking hell but that's kind of obvious.

Whoa now, what's this about a hidden message? Did I completely miss something?

Loved last night's episode. Have we seen the Russian translator before? He was really familiar but I may have just recognized him from somewhere else.

SydneyK 03-31-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LegallyBrunette (Post 1912558)
Have we seen the Russian translator before? He was really familiar but I may have just recognized him from somewhere else.

That was Mikhail (aka Patchy) - the guy who has died over and over and over again. I think the last time we saw him (at least, the last time I remember seeing him) was when he blew up the Looking Glass station (RIP, Charlie :() with the hand grenade.

ASTalumna06 04-01-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LegallyBrunette (Post 1912558)
Whoa now, what's this about a hidden message? Did I completely miss something?

annabella put a kinda sorta spoiler in her post, but used white font so people wouldn't have to read it if they didn't want to.

That's the "hidden message"

Ch2tf 04-01-2010 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=annabella;1911734]Agreed.

@ hidden

I thought this was confirmed in the Richard epi as well as on the lost postcast.

Ch2tf 04-01-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1911551)
If you look at Locke/smoke monster, he hasn't killed any of the main characters. And his goal at the moment is to get people off the island.

I feel like from this weeks episode it's very clear that his goal is to get himself off the island, what happens with the rest of the folks, I'm not sure he cares. Ex. how he basically told Claire she can do whatever with Kate once he is off the island.

IlovemyAKA 04-01-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IlovemyAKA (Post 1912022)
@ hidden: it said no "a" and one "e". I was thinking hell but that's kind of obvious.


latest also adds that it's "something good"

ASTalumna06 04-01-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IlovemyAKA (Post 1913311)
latest also adds that it's "something good"

Hope?

LucyKKG 04-02-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1913113)
I feel like from this weeks episode it's very clear that his goal is to get himself off the island, what happens with the rest of the folks, I'm not sure he cares. Ex. how he basically told Claire she can do whatever with Kate once he is off the island.

But Kate's name wasn't in the cave, so she isn't a candidate. Locke seems to care about the candidates, too, as well as his creepy evil friends (fake Claire and fake Sayid).

twinkle555 04-02-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1913534)
But Kate's name wasn't in the cave, so she isn't a candidate. Locke seems to care about the candidates, too, as well as his creepy evil friends (fake Claire and fake Sayid).

how come kate isnt a candidate? i know her name wasnt in the cave and i dont remember it being on the wheel/mirror, but jacob did visit her when she was younger..?

LucyKKG 04-02-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkle555 (Post 1913537)
how come kate isnt a candidate? i know her name wasnt in the cave and i dont remember it being on the wheel/mirror, but jacob did visit her when she was younger..?

Pretty sure Jacob visited her. I don't remember if it said her name or not, but I know Locke told Claire it wasn't there.

SydneyK 04-02-2010 02:58 PM

I don't think we can believe anything Locke says. Claire's name was on the wall (and the lighthouse dial), and Locke told her it wasn't. So, for him to have said that Kate's name isn't on the wall... well, I think he's just blowing smoke. (Pun intended.)

About Kate... her name was written on the cave walls, but it's been crossed out; it has not yet been crossed out on the lighthouse dial (#51). I'm thinking she is, at the very least, a former candidate. However, since her name has not been crossed out on the lighthouse dial, she might still in the running.

Ch2tf 04-02-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1913534)
But Kate's name wasn't in the cave, so she isn't a candidate. Locke seems to care about the candidates, too, as well as his creepy evil friends (fake Claire and fake Sayid).

I guess "care about" is being used loosely, but I have no doubt that his concern isn't of a loving, I don't anything to happen to you ever, nature. He made it clear that he needs 3 more people to get off the island. He "has" Kate, Sayid, and Jin (well, had Jin). It is of no coincidence that Jack, Hurley, and Sun are on the other island/not in his camp. That is why in the last episode he went to see Sun and tried to bring her over to reunite with Jin. He's using whatever he can to lure each of the (former?) candidates to his "side". Somehow them being reunited will help him get off the island.

SydneyK 04-02-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1913554)
He's using whatever he can to lure each of the (former?) candidates to his "side". Somehow them being reunited will help him get off the island.

I agree about MIB luring each of the candidates to his side.

I don't think that the reunion of the candidates will help him get off the island, though. As long as there is a candidate for Jacob's replacement, MIB is stuck on the island.

Maybe there is something special that'll happen when the candidates are reunited. Part of me hopes that's the case, anyway. But, I think MIB's goal here is to remove all the candidates from their candidacy position (whether by luring them to his side, by killing them, or by finding a way for them to leave the island). Then, once there aren't any more candidates, MIB will be able to leave.

LucyKKG 04-02-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1913561)
I don't think that the reunion of the candidates will help him get off the island, though. As long as there is a candidate for Jacob's replacement, MIB is stuck on the island.

Maybe he wants to get them all together and kill them all at once so he no longer has an adversary (the Jacob replacement). Haha I dunno...

This link has a funny Lost reference. :)

Oh and btw, I've been showing EVERYONE that video that annabella posted. :D

annabella 04-02-2010 05:16 PM

It's been suggested either here or another thread that when they "die" in one reality, they go the the alt/sideways reality. I'm wondering if that's what happens to Kate—and in the sideways reality, she's not a candidate (hence name crossed out on cave walls?). I know a lot of people dislike her, but I think she's going to be a big player in the ending.

Lucy, that link was funny—and the Friends reference was spot-on.

IlovemyAKA 04-02-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1913316)
Hope?

That's one guess that's floating around. The clue also stated that it's "not very important."

*shrugs*

ms_gwyn 04-07-2010 01:02 AM

I just got chills....

anyone else?

Senusret I 04-07-2010 06:39 AM

So I think the alternate reality isn't a true parallel universe -- I think it's a Matrix created by Eloise out of guilt for killing her son.

Ch2tf 04-07-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1914683)
So I think the alternate reality isn't a true parallel universe -- I think it's a Matrix created by Eloise out of guilt for killing her son.

I'm not sure what to call it. But it reminds me of a "deja vu" type of situation.

ms_gwyn 04-07-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1914683)
So I think the alternate reality isn't a true parallel universe -- I think it's a Matrix created by Eloise out of guilt for killing her son.

Good theory, I will no longer speculate....

but I do like it

IlovemyAKA 04-07-2010 07:27 PM

I loved this episode!!! I don't know what the alt is, but I agree with Sen in that it's not parallel. They're in 2007 on the island. It's 2004 in the alt. It was 1977 on the island when the nuke exploded. My guess (although I hope it's not true because it's one of the more common theories) is that the explosion altered everything from 1977 on and the ALT is their lives without the island. However, that doesn't explain how they have flashes of an island they supposedly never visited.

ASTalumna06 04-07-2010 10:52 PM

Is anyone else still wondering if/how Aaron is going to come into play in a major way?

twinkle555 04-08-2010 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1914918)
Is anyone else still wondering if/how Aaron is going to come into play in a major way?

Along with many other things, yes lol.

ms_gwyn 04-13-2010 01:20 PM

So I just realized that FOX is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL (ok I already knew that....I'm a Joss Whedon Fan....)

But they've decided to put Glee up against Lost....sorry, I love Glee, but I will not miss Lost...I'm so happy for Hulu....(I do not own a DVR or TIVO)

LucyKKG 04-13-2010 06:25 PM

Sooo why are people married and related to different people in the alternate reality? I finally watched last week's episode.

Oh and why is Desmond all brain-washed? It made sense for him to change his mind about Widmore after passing out, but what about following Sayid? Weird!

IlovemyAKA 04-13-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1916737)
Sooo why are people married and related to different people in the alternate reality?

Who is married to/related to different people?

Widmore was always father to both Penny & Daniel. Eloise was always Daniel's mother.

Charlie loved Claire.
Daniel loved Charlotte.
Desmond loved Penny.

LucyKKG 04-13-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IlovemyAKA (Post 1916741)
Who is married to/related to different people?

Widmore was always father to both Penny & Daniel. Eloise was always Daniel's mother.

Charlie loved Claire.
Daniel loved Charlotte.
Desmond loved Penny.

Haha oh...I guess I'm just confused. Hmm...I know I'm remembering Daniel and Eloise in a different context at (I think) Oxford. Oh, whatever!

SydneyK 04-14-2010 09:36 AM

Good episode last night! Some questions...

Michael explained to Hurley that the whispers were (paraphrasing, mostly) people like him who couldn't move on because of what they've done. Now, when he says people like him, does he mean people who have died? Or, specifically, candidates who have died?

If he means candidates who have died, that leads to more questions. I'm wondering if dead candidates are trapped until there are no more candidates left, and MIB leaves the island. Clearly, the whispers have been around since the beginning of the show, and Jacob was (allegedly) secure in his position of island-protector. That suggests to me that the whisperers won't be able to move on even after Jacob is replaced. So, I can't help but wonder if they'll ever be able to move on.

Why are all the flashsideways so focused on relationships? Charlie told Des in a previous episode about his love-at-first-sight encounter with Claire. Des had a similar experience with Penny. Now Hurley and Libby? What's this really all about? The early flashsidewayses weren't nearly so relationship heavy.

Des didn't really die when Locke pushed him down the well, did he? And what's up with Des running over Locke in the flashsideways?

After the Ilana and Black Rock incidents, Richard, Miles, Ben, Lapidus, Sun, Jack and Hurley broke off into two factions: Richard, Miles and Ben in one, and Hurley, Jack, Sun and Lapidus in the other. Surely it isn't just coincidental that Richard's group has no candidates and Hurley's group has only candidates (plus Lapidus, who could be a candidate since he was supposed to be the pilot of 815).

And, one final comment... I love Libby! So glad to see her back. :)

DaemonSeid 04-14-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1917016)



Des didn't really die when Locke pushed him down the well, did he? And what's up with Des running over Locke in the flashsideways?


i don't think so because the preview for next week looks like him coming back and besides hsi being killed would be so incomplete right now.

I swear, more I am watching now the more it seems like these folks are in some kind of purgatory or 'hell'

ASTalumna06 04-14-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1917016)
Des didn't really die when Locke pushed him down the well, did he? And what's up with Des running over Locke in the flashsideways?

I thought that in some weird way, Desmond running over Locke was revenge for being pushed down the well.

How that works out exactly, and how Desmond would be aware of it, I don't know. Or maybe he's not aware of what happened, he just knew he had to get back at Locke for something.

OoOo.. creepy...

SydneyK 04-14-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1917145)
I thought that in some weird way, Desmond running over Locke was revenge for being pushed down the well.

How that works out exactly, and how Desmond would be aware of it, I don't know. Or maybe he's not aware of what happened, he just knew he had to get back at Locke for something.

Makes sense. I've read someone's theory that, because of how Des responds to electromagnetism, Island-Des traded places with alt-timeline-Des, and that's why (1) Island Des thought MIB/Not-Locke was John Locke (and not MIB), and (2) LA-Des knew to run over LA-Locke. Your idea that Des was getting revenge fits nicely with this theory.

ASTalumna06 04-14-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1917176)
Makes sense. I've read someone's theory that, because of how Des responds to electromagnetism, Island-Des traded places with alt-timeline-Des, and that's why (1) Island Des thought MIB/Not-Locke was John Locke (and not MIB), and (2) LA-Des knew to run over LA-Locke. Your idea that Des was getting revenge fits nicely with this theory.

I like this theory. However, Desmond would have traded places before being pushed down the well.

SydneyK 04-15-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1917217)
I like this theory. However, Desmond would have traded places before being pushed down the well.

Maybe the two timelines are running concurrently, and the Des that ran over Locke is aware of both timelines (and, therefore, aware of what has happened to his island counter-part). Maybe? :confused: I dunno, just thinking out loud here.

DaemonSeid 04-15-2010 08:34 AM

Well if that is the case, then he ran over an innocent John Locke?

SydneyK 04-15-2010 08:40 AM

lol... true

DaemonSeid 04-15-2010 08:52 AM

Then again maybe it was a pre emptive strike...

IlovemyAKA 04-17-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1917176)
Makes sense. I've read someone's theory that, because of how Des responds to electromagnetism, Island-Des traded places with alt-timeline-Des, and that's why (1) Island Des thought MIB/Not-Locke was John Locke (and not MIB), and (2) LA-Des knew to run over LA-Locke. Your idea that Des was getting revenge fits nicely with this theory.

I like this theory. That explains why Des was not afraid @ the well and why he willingly joined Sayid.

LucyKKG 04-22-2010 08:31 PM

Did anyone else get teary-eyed when Jin and Sun reunited? Ok I'm a sucker.

twinkle555 04-22-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1919748)
Did anyone else get teary-eyed when Jin and Sun reunited? Ok I'm a sucker.

yes! I was clapping and screaming mostly but I felt a little misty eyed!!

btw..I freakin HATE Zoe!!!


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