I thought the "value" of recruitment stories was the informational value that they had for young women who were about to rush. I read some stories that were honest, interesting (except I admit for the three pages of Good Lucks) and informative. Then came what I term the "outing" (of the school, the sororities in question) and the "don't tell anything because you will be found out." The threads started to become more and more pc...and useless for a young woman trying to decode recruitment.

I think that the fantasy threads are a result of the two factions: future fiction writers and super sleuths who need to point out the error of their ways. And as someone who wrote, two or three years ago, a "brutally honest" story about rush in the time of anti semitism, feel free not to read it. But shall we mull over the possibilities of this whole section: Posting realtime truth (as the pnm sees it) the pnm is threatened with identity exposure and flamed. Post a thread right afterward and you are under scrutiny for the truthfulness if everything was perfect. (and rightly so) Post it years later, with a point (or without) and people are bored and/or suspicious.

Has anyone noticed that in the old days at the end of the thread the writer would reveal the school and sometimes even the key to the code of names? And life as we knew it went on.

This irritates me even in active rush threads....which is why I don't read them. If I could just read the story, without all the natter in there, I might.

Banned again already, and promptly after midnight.

I'm curious why her oft-banned friend (who probably told her that she was being discussed in this thread) still hasn't been banned in his latest incarnation after almost two months?

Is this something you yourself haven't mastered yet? I mean... you seem pretty personal when you call someone classless, boorish, and insensitive. Since those are pretty personal insults. You don't have to add a "fuck off" in there to be at the same level.



Obviously when I go to bed early I miss the drama. And why hasn't Earp's little dingleberry been banned yet?

You have a point. Different words, same intention.

I was wondering about that as well, as the alter-ego has lasted a lot longer than the others - perhaps there's been a peace offering with those who have the power to ban (i.e. a promise to behave and not post any more racist/bigoted/offensive content)?

First, this thread has gotten funny as hayle!!!!!::):)



Actually, it has. Very recently in the KAPsi forum some troll posted that he thinks he can be a member since he has light skin and straight curly hair. He never got a response. I knew he was off, and so did every other NPHC member. Didn't mean that it wasn't a bit entertaining. :o


I think some people are missing some valid points that were made here. The best point made was by Kevin. I think a serious NPC PNM already has her stuff together and would not even consider relying on some website for answers. The exact same is true for NPHC. Serious NPHC PNMs already know the school / chapter they want to join, have made the necessary contacts and understand the process without relying on a website. The serious NPC / NPHC PNMs don't need to be told what to do via GC or any other website.

And really, what is wrong with 'If you don't like it, don't read it.' If you want to call people out, fine. But don't get so miffed if there are those of us who like to read a retro rush thread.

Because he is not really starting any mess and has yet to own up to being Earp.

That's never mattered with previous bans.

Just curious.

True. I'm out of explanations then. :p


Maybe he donated a lot to the site. :p

That made them worth reading for me! Now I find them to be dull, even the live ones.

I wonder the same thing.

It was the recipe for Gooy Buns.

Damn, why'd you all go and stick me in the basement, anyway? This thread was pretty funny, and I missed most of it!

;)

In the end, it comes down to this:

There are some people on this site who are down right embarrassing when it comes to rush stories, and I have never cared two shits if that SMALL HANDFUL of embarrassing people get upset over me talking about them or not. But, that's not what the thread was about, it was merely mentioned at the end.

The point was that these stories are becoming like GC fan fiction. It's not just current stories. It's no longer just a recounting of what happened. Now, it's, "I rushed 30 years ago and here's how I remember it." There's so much crap in them that it takes the fun of hearing someone's story away.

And, the Barbie thread (genius parody, btw) reminded me of how full of shit most of these stories really are.

GC is entertaining to me. And, when I get bored with the site, I feel free to voice my displeasure. (Just like anyone else on this site could do if they had the guts to put themselves out there... But, most just choose to sit back like cattle chewing their cud not wanting to upset the herd.)

To those who dislike me-- I never have and never will care what your personal opinion of me is. So, if you think calling me names is helping you feel better about yourself and this site, by all means keep going. But, if we're really gonna go with taking the high road, perhaps using personal insults yourself might be a tad hypocritical.

Honestly, it makes GC more fun for me when people get riled up over something I say. So, by all means, keep it coming. ;)

Oh, and Blueangel, just so you know, the secret is out... You've been stalking people over at HRPL, too. Seems you JUST can't stop yourself. I heard that people were leaving there left and right because of it. I know it makes you feel better to try and rewrite what happened. So, if that brings some joy to your sad, little world, I'll just let you have it.

Or they engage in the PM factory with hopes that they can find a sock puppet-ey GCer to express their viewpoints.

"Thanks for all the PMs of support" "A lot of people agree with me via PM" always cracks me up.

Yes, along with:

"I think that you're____ and others agree with me...."

Most of the time people can figure out if someone is having a momentary change in their usual posting style or pattern, or if they are truly a complete idiot.

Also most of us can have different opinions and ideas, agree and disagree on a variety of topics and not be nasty about it. I can't think of anyone I agree with (or who agrees with me) 100% of the time, but a majority of GC posters respect each other as we do our best to be intelligent and communicate in an effective manner, as that is how we operate on a whole.

ETA: I put my brain back in and now I get, and agree with, your post. :)

Sorry, I think I need some Emerald Nuts as Robert Goulet is messing with things in my office ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZhLDwU5Row

Most of us don't need other posters to rush to our defense or secretly agree with us. We may have different ideas or opinions, but we present ourselves well we don't need PMs to protect our egos. No sock puppets or alleged PMs are needed because we can say what we think and still be respected. We're not wounded when people on a message board don't agree with us because we're adults and realize it is just the internet.

LOL. Great commercial.

My confusion was only mine. LOL. I think I was ETA'ing while you were posting. :)

I don't think it has to do with "guts," at least in large part becuase I don't think it takes "guts" to post dissenting opinions or criticisms on here. I think most of the people who don't "put themselves out there" just don't feel that it's worth their time to post their thoughts or critiques. That's not passing judgment on you for doing so, it's just that (like in real life), people have different ways of dealing with things that annoy them.

Sometimes I'll post if I disagree with an opinion or a general trend on the site, but a lot of times I'll just avoid the thread (or poster) and move on to other parts of the site. I don't chalk that up to a lack of guts on my part, just my own way of dealing with things.

Exactly, some of the time I feel the need to post or comment, other times I don't. My weekend started at 5pm so I have the time to post right now but I was too busy yesterday. Sometimes I'm just in a mood too, and feel punchy.

yes:)

I have a legitimate question. For us non NPCers, what are some of the ways you can tell a story is fake?

One of the easiest ways to tell if a story is fake is if the school is unidentifiable. The more chapters there are at a school, the fewer possibilities there are. One of the GC sleuths should recognize it given other clues (location, Greek culture, campus-specific language, time of year). I think any story with more than 8-10 chapters should be able to be recognized by the sleuths.

Another big red flag is if there is something that seems off about the recruitment process itself. For example, eaglesbaby or one of her alter egos wrote the story about Drexel, and how they were at the "loser" chapter and how her whole rush group just crowded in the back and ate their food instead of talking to the actives. I'd have a hard time believing a chapter would have an unstructured "just mingle and meet members as you please" when every other chapter during formal recruitment is doing organized "pick up" and rotation of PNMs.

The alcohol thing I knew. the purse thing is a bit of a surprise though. Thanks for the information though.

Yeppers.

Oh, and also the whole Mary Sue thing of "I was a very shy girl in high school, and most of my shy friends went to CaCa Community College, but I decided to spread my wings and go to Batshit U. Once I pledged the sorority who I thought I failed at impressing, I blossomed and am now the Governor of Alaska!" I hate to do this to you, but find some fanfic sites and read a story or two. The faux rush stories are written pretty much the same way.

There ARE some schools where rush is more laid back and might seem fake to other people who aren't used to that style of rush. For example, I didn't necessarily think the Drexel thread was fake - I just thought the writer was thoroughly unpleasant.

I did notice that in a couple of them. I actually RP online, so I am well aware of what Mary Sue is. lol.

The thing that has pissed people off is that people use not naming the schools as an excuse to be "brutally honest" which really means "insulting and degrading." I read one of the old threads (by UCLAgirl if you want to look for it) last night, and she was honest but never, ever rude. Oh, and I remembered another reason people started using the code names - the "shameless plugs" that people used to do for their group. I'd rather see "go Milky Way" than a certain poster's relentless, huge fonted, multi colored shameless plugs. It made some people uncomfy - they thought it might be dirty rushing - and it was just downright obnoxious, especially since for all the pluggers knew, the girl writing the story could have had 3 heads.

I don't think "threaten" is the right word - obviously people like to figure out what school and which group is what, that's human nature. But posters on here are for the most part good at not outing others even if they do get it. Where they have gotten into trouble is when people from their school read the story (without necessarily registering or making themselves known) and there's repercussions for them down the line.

:eek: Get some professional help, lady! IT AIN'T THAT DAMN SERIOUS!

Two whole years of crickets chirping. Now that's an accomplishment! :D:p;):rolleyes::o

Right. What people fail to realize is that recruitment threads come back to bite PNMs because SOMEONE FROM THEIR SCHOOL was reading it. Alot of the time, it's not a registered GCer, but just an active who just happened to be reading. Folks forget that you don't have to register or post to read stuff.

The shameless plug thing makes me have a little distrust for all recruitment threads, even the ones we hold as basically true.

Didn't we talk about this angle once before, (not that we can't talk about it again)? But I kind of remember talking about real time threads vs. retro threads, and some of us had a distinct preference for the honestly that retro threads lost in how the OP presented the results.

If you know you're an XYZ you might be a whole lot less likely to discuss how awkward you felt there second round.

Not that it's a big deal or a reason not to write them.

I just realized something. do you think a coed fraternity would take place in sorority formal recruitment? I'm actually curious to see what people would think the answer would be.

Absolutely NOT - I thought that co-ed groups (and I mean purely social co-ed groups) usually did bids at the same time as the regular fraternities, since it's a more laid back sort of thing. Does anyone know for sure?

I thought Rush stories were the most important and vital for most second pre-Sorority/Fraternity Applications? Is this guy a Joker?

:rolleyes: