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DSTCHAOS 07-16-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1681884)
Morning to you as well Senusret I;):D
All I was doing was answering that posters comment. Nothing more or less.;)
And while the blog maybe dated the 14th or so, it is in todays NY Times. Take a look at the upper left corner of story.
Back to the future:p:D

That same blog has been posted and discussed for the past 2 days. It's just a repeat of everything we already know, including the quote that sparked the current discussion of what honorary membership means. That's why you were late. :)

Senusret I 07-16-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1681888)
RE: Hubert Humphrey and Tau Delta Phi. The fraternity's chapter at University of Minnesota closed in 1950. Humphrey was elected mayor in 1945 and to Congress in 1948, so it is likely he was made an honorary member sometime between 1945 and 1950.

Thank you! I'll follow up with this info.

jon1856 07-16-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1681900)
That same blog has been posted and discussed for the past 2 days. It's just a repeat of everything we already know, including the quote that sparked the current discussion of what honorary membership means. That's why you were late. :)

Next time I meet with the NYT's board, I will bring it up:p:D
Thanks.

Sparklez1920 07-16-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1681883)
But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)

What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.

ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.

The point i was making was that they can continue to question his affiliations as they have been doing this election. Of course Rezko and Rev Wright are more questionable, but digging up a hazing incident from way back when can show this so called "Lack of Judgment" that Obama has and a pattern of questionable affiliations

I wasnt trying to say the repubs dug those up, but it wouldnt surprise me if the repubs dug up those old hazing incidents and tried to link his campaign with it

Folks are already speculating about it right here

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/20...om_melody.html

jon1856 07-16-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparklez1920 (Post 1681911)
The point i was making was that they can continue to question his affiliations as they have been doing this election. Of course Rezko and Rev Wright are more questionable, but digging up a hazing incident from way back when can show this so called "Lack of Judgment" that Obama has and a pattern of questionable affiliations

I wasn't trying to say the repubs dug those up, but it wouldn't surprise me if the repubs dug up those old hazing incidents and tried to link his campaign with it

Folks are already speculating about it right here

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/20...om_melody.html

Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?
And if so, you should read the comments in the NYT's blog as well. Sort of the same, just better written. Or is it written better?

Sparklez1920 07-16-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1681913)
Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?
And if so, you should read the comments in the NYT's blog as well. Sort of the same, just better written. Or is it written better?

Yes, im talking about the comments section, which is why i said FOLKS are speculating about it

And the FOLKS, are the ones who are going to the voting polls in November

*written better

jon1856 07-16-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparklez1920 (Post 1681932)
Yes, I'm talking about the comments section, which is why i said FOLKS are speculating about it

And the FOLKS, are the ones who are going to the voting polls in November

*written better

Your POV may be right, may be correct.
In MVHO/POV, many times the "folks" that write into the comment sections of stories and blogs are even worse than some of the trolls we get here in GC. Thus take a great deal of it with a large grain of salt.

MysticCat 07-16-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1681913)
Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?

From the comments section:

"If AKA is so inclusive and by virtue of their tax status MUST NOT be biased for or against a particular party, I must ask, did AKA extend the same honorary invitation to Cindy McCain? Also isnt AKA the sorority where two young women lost their lives to hazing? As I write anohter young woman is recuperating from disabling injuries due to hazing by AKAs. Lets all write Obama and ask why Michelle Obama is willing to join this elitist exclusionary group whose members were featured in Mink coats as a form of status."

Posted by: Rita | July 14, 2008 9:05 PM

rhoyaltempest 07-16-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1681964)
From the comments section:

"If AKA is so inclusive and by virtue of their tax status MUST NOT be biased for or against a particular party, I must ask, did AKA extend the same honorary invitation to Cindy McCain? Also isnt AKA the sorority where two young women lost their lives to hazing? As I write anohter young woman is recuperating from disabling injuries due to hazing by AKAs. Lets all write Obama and ask why Michelle Obama is willing to join this elitist exclusionary group whose members were featured in Mink coats as a form of status."

Posted by: Rita | July 14, 2008 9:05 PM

Why did you post this woman's "under"educated drivel here? She is an example of someone who thinks she knows everything about what she speaks...only she only knows some or part of it. Go back and read the comments from members of the NPHC which address everything in her "under"educated comments. I have to say my D9 brothers and sisters handle her quite well.

Or ask direct questions, if the answers are what you seek.

MysticCat 07-16-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1681996)
Why did you post this woman's "under"educated drivel here?

Because, as should have been obvious from the way that I quoted Jon in my post before quoting the drivel, I wasn't giving any credence to the drivel, nor was I asking any questions or seeking information. I was responding to Jon's specific question:
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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1681913)
Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?


Sparklez1920 07-16-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1681996)
Why did you post this woman's "under"educated drivel here? She is an example of someone who thinks she knows everything about what she speaks...only she only knows some or part of it. Go back and read the comments from members of the NPHC which address everything in her "under"educated comments. I have to say my D9 brothers and sisters handle her quite well.

Or ask direct questions, if the answers are what you seek.


While i agree with what you are saying, you have to remember, she and others who have those opinions are the folks who are going to the voting poll

It may not be right, but it is what people will begin to perceive. Nov. 5th, AKA shoulda inducted her into their sorority. I sincerely hope it doesnt cause problems in the media, however, folks will form their opinions about this issue

Sparklez1920 07-16-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1682003)
Because, as should have been obvious from the way that I quoted Jon in my post before quoting the drivel, I wasn't giving any credence to the drivel, nor was I asking any questions or seeking information. I was responding to Jon's specific question:

I figured thats why you quoted his question

jon1856 07-16-2008 03:32 PM

^^^^^^^^While I truly do understand all of the above postings, just wish to point out that my question was originally about the hazing comment that was made. And that part while never answered was perhaps just perhaps corrected.
And my guestion about location of comment was also answered by the OP.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1682003)
Because, as should have been obvious from the way that I quoted Jon in my post before quoting the drivel, I wasn't giving any credence to the drivel, nor was I asking any questions or seeking information. I was responding to Jon's specific question:


rhoyaltempest 07-16-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparklez1920 (Post 1682004)
While i agree with what you are saying, you have to remember, she and others who have those opinions are the folks who are going to the voting poll

It may not be right, but it is what people will begin to perceive. Nov. 5th, AKA shoulda inducted her into their sorority. I sincerely hope it doesnt cause problems in the media, however, folks will form their opinions about this issue

I agree with you also...should've waited until after the election. Some people are just waiting for a reason (even a small one) to not vote for Obama.

The sad part is that all of these "opinions" may be out there for nothing since Michelle will likely not become a member if she is insisting on "non-exclusive" membership.

Sparklez1920 07-16-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1682014)
I agree with you also...should've waited until after the election. Some people are just waiting for a reason (even a small one) to not vote for Obama.

The sad part is that all of these "opinions" may be out there for nothing since Michelle will likely not become a member if she is insisting on "non-exclusive" membership.

Tru Indeed. I hate the fact that people look for the smallest things in order to not vote for him. Silly. Just say, "Well, i dont like N*****'s"

But we have to see what she meant by the non-exclusive comment. She may have just meant that she would like to work with us all. Maybe her spokesperson said it wrong. But all in all, Greeks are wondering about it, so damage control needs to come quick


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