The mistake is in assuming that just because you have a dormant chapter there, you don't want to be there. That couldn't be further from the truth for several of our closed chapters on that list where we still own a house but have to wait until recruitment numbers are up and wait our turn to recolonize. NPCs are very different from fraternities in that way because we won't go back until the environment is ready for it. A good example is Michigan State. Alpha Xi Delta has been given first option to recolonize WHEN numbers warrant it. We are next after them. However, until there are enough women wanting to go greek on that campus to support more sororities, it won't happen.

Well, some groups have or had someone who is not a member as the director or employed in some other way with their foundation. For a while, ours was an AXO. She most assuredly did NOT have any say in where we expanded or what our expansion philosophy was/is. I'm sure she gave the expansion committee updates on the state of the foundation, but that's like my company's BOD calling the bank and asking what the prime rate is or something. It doesn't mean the bank is giving opinion on our buyouts/mergers/etc.

Long way of saying I think that's what Dani was talking about.

Like I said, it's plausible, but everyone is entitled to govern themselves as they see fit. I never would claim to know a single thing about how NPCs self-govern.

A very small percentage.

Maybe that can be the next thing to do statistics on.

Seriously, just because Chi Omega doesn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't occur on the earth. I was simply trying to explain to Kevin what Dani said - the foundation director does not always have a hand in expansion. Just because oldu's mythical and not-too-discreet friend gave her opinion on why her sorority turned down this or that campus, doesn't mean that she had jack shit to do with it or any say in it.

Dani certainly must not be thinking of her own KD either since the Foundation Director and the Sorority Executive Director are the same person.

WHO ALSO MIGHT NOT HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH EXPANSION.

Honestly, why don't you let oldu come here and back up his own claim instead of speaking for him?

This is an unfair debate. I'll gracefully step aside and let you control the discussion from here on. :)

Because that would involving signing out then signing back in under a different screen name ;) Yep, I said it.

Perhaps "he" was... ;)

ETA: Oo, KDdani beat me to it!!

Our Executive Director isn't even on the Foundation board.

This is somewhat of a useless debate. All we said was that one "mystery" woman that oldu allegedly spoke to's opinion does not contain the gospel truth as to all 26 NPC orgs.

If so, I'd sure as hell like to know who she is so that I can worship her mythical powers as Goddess of All Things NPC. I mean, is this the mob and there's one person secretly running all of the NPC sororities???

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Busted!:D;):p


ETA: How much longer before they both post at the same time to try & debunk your claim?

Easy enough to do. Sign in under one screenname on Internet Explorer, and under the other in Firefox.

LOL! I love it.

Let me give you some examples of how risky and difficult it is to start new chapters at highly popular but veryy competitive schools. At the University of Alabama where Alpha Phi will colonize this fall, three other attempts have been made by very strong organizations during the past 25 years but only one of the three, Gamma Phi Beta, succeeded. At the University of Oklahoma, seven attempts were made but only two, Alpha Phi and Alpha Omicron Pi, have been successful. At the University of Missouri, four tries and only Phi Mu succeeded. Several of the groups which failed had built new houses which they sold at a loss. (I know because I was involved in one of them.) Sentiments aside, sorority executives have to take a hard-nosed look at these opportunities and that is why they often opt not to be in the selection process when openings arise. I have no doubt that my friend's comments reflect the thinking of many other sorority leaders. They would be irresponsible if they did not take such a businesslike approach. My point was that as much as we would all like chapters at these major schools sometimes the risk factor is too great.