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SWTXBelle 04-24-2008 06:34 PM

I've mentioned before that I object to "fake marriage" parties because they are taking a holy sacrament and using it for entertainment. It's insutling to Christians. I also hate the way St. Patrick's Day has become an exercise in singing American vaudeville-era songs which used really insulting Irish stereotypes, drinking "green beer", which isn't Irish at all, and furthering the image of the Irish as feckless drunks.
But I'd never ask the administration to crack down on the parties - I'd just hope to be able to register my objection, and maybe educate a few people.

Tom Earp 04-24-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1639631)
How could you possibly misunderstand the meaning of my esteemed words?



You like to talk and make snide comments about women being "equal" to men. This is clearly ridiculous. One thing to your benefit is that you thoroughly chew and swallow your food before you begin to speak. That is quite polite of you. I am pondering the question of whether or not you believe yourself to be a fascinating personality.




My dear Kevin, sir. I do hope that you can make sense of what this fine young lady is saying. It doesn't appear to involve her cooking a meal or carrying a child so dash it all I just cannot fathom what she could be going on about.


That is what is neat, You are overly kool!;) So now Kevin is a bad guy? Why, is it because he has Male member and you don't?

Oh, as I take it from your post that women are not equal to men?:D

When in doubt? Making Snide remarks seems to be you forte!:rolleyes:

But of course, you do it so well!:rolleyes:

Benzgirl 04-24-2008 07:04 PM

^^^^ and Smilies are your forte, Tom.

SWTXBelle 04-24-2008 07:29 PM

I like the way he worked in penis envy. :)

DSTCHAOS 04-24-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1639626)
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*kiss kiss* :p

DSTCHAOS 04-24-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1639624)
GLO hosted or not, I do get offended. If you're going to have vodka in your watermelon, call it Kamanawanaleiya, and have fluorescent plastic leis, call it a Tropical/Island theme. Don't call it a lu'au. And don't call it Hawaiian. If you're going to serve pua'a from the imu, serve poi you've prepared, and have someone dance a nice hula to celebrate a life milestone, then that's a lu'au. My friend Aaron made a big stink about it at Dartmouth almost a decade ago.

If you ask me, I think themed parties as a whole are dumb. I went to my share when I was a collegian and made fun of it the whole time. They tend to be cheesy and embarassing and so not worth my time. :rolleyes:

Thanks for this insight. I really do appreciate it.

PM_Mama00 04-24-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1639643)
I've mentioned before that I object to "fake marriage" parties because they are taking a holy sacrament and using it for entertainment. It's insutling to Christians. I also hate the way St. Patrick's Day has become an exercise in singing American vaudeville-era songs which used really insulting Irish stereotypes, drinking "green beer", which isn't Irish at all, and furthering the image of the Irish as feckless drunks.
But I'd never ask the administration to crack down on the parties - I'd just hope to be able to register my objection, and maybe educate a few people.

I think the Irish-Americans did that themselves. And non Irish-Americans just use it as an excuse to go out and get insanely wasted and stupid. Same with Cinco de Mayo. Most people don't know the meaning of it, but they still go out and "celebrate" it.

SWTXBelle 04-24-2008 08:45 PM

Um, no. The Irish celebrate St. Patrick's Day as a religious holiday. Only recently have the American-style celebrations made it over to the Emerald Isle. Those songs I mentioned - "Danny Boy", "When Irish Eyes are Smiling", etc. - came from a vaudeville tradition that was no more Irish than Al Jolson's "Mammy" was African. You can read Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" to get a sense of how the English in the 18th century regarded the Irish - yes, he uses ironic hyperbole, but it works because it is a simply a logical extension of English policy. (and stereotypes)
My family is proudly Irish, with a long association with real Celtic music and an understanding of our history. Most of the so-called "Irish for a day" who swill green beer have no understanding of either.Actually, it is statistically impossible for all those who claim Irish ancestry to actually be Irish, according to one study.
I find it ironic that the same people who will loudly decry the use of various stereotypes in the name of entertainment find no problem with trampling on my heritage, be it Irish, Christian or southern.

eta - and I think that if you cannot correctly name the country Mexico defeated on the 5th of May, no margaritas for you!

texas*princess 04-24-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1639715)
I think the Irish-Americans did that themselves. And non Irish-Americans just use it as an excuse to go out and get insanely wasted and stupid. Same with Cinco de Mayo. Most people don't know the meaning of it, but they still go out and "celebrate" it.

agreed.

In college Cinco de Mayo was called Cinco de Drinco :p

Just an excuse to go out, get insanely wasted on Dos X's, and take advantage of drink specials.

SWTXBelle 04-24-2008 09:22 PM

Theme parties
 
At what point does a theme go bad? For example, many proms and formals may have "A Night in Paris" or some such theme - the food will be ethnic, but everyone wears formal wear. I don't think anyone objects to those - or do they? Is the problem when they bring in costumes and cheesy pseudo-ethnic music?

Drolefille 04-24-2008 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1639645)
That is what is neat, You are overly kool!;) So now Kevin is a bad guy? Why, is it because he has Male member and you don't?

I highly appreciate your kind rendition of my words. It is more than I deserve. Would you like a cigarette? Please focus on Kevin instead of me if you don't mind. I naturally assume that everyone wishes they had a penis despite the fact that they're evolutionarily backward by having the excretory function use the same tract as the reproductive function. Oh well.

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Oh, as I take it from your post that women are not equal to men?:D
I can't possibly fathom a universe where women are .. EQUAL.. to men. Ugh, that made me ill just saying it! I mean then I couldn't whine about Hillary and get my post deleted in my OWN FORUM.
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When in doubt? Making Snide remarks seems to be you forte!:rolleyes:
Snide Remarks

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But of course, you do it so well!:rolleyes:
Again thank you kindly for your kind remarks. Please enjoy my smilies.

nittanyalum 04-24-2008 10:18 PM

LOL, Drole. :p

macallan25 04-25-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1639703)
*kiss kiss* :p

I tried with the Caddyshack reference.

DSTCHAOS 04-25-2008 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1639853)
I tried with the Caddyshack reference.

I see. :)

AGDee 04-25-2008 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1639556)
That's called "having a sense of ownership."

They don't feel mocked, belittled or objectified in that specific context. They have endorsed it (there is probably more to it than we are being told) and therefore don't feel that images are being taken and used against them.


The Hurons did the same when Eastern Michigan's board was deciding whether or not to change their mascot name. A chief came to the board meeting, said that they were honored that we used their name and the board voted to change to Eagles anyway.


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