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AOII_LB93 01-03-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1569521)
I am an alumna of Cal State Long Beach. The Greek system there is not well-liked by the administration of the school or by some of the school population but they do fairly well. NPC has not expanded since they restarted the Greek system in the 80's. There are 7 NPC sororities active on campus and 6 recognized IFC chapters with 3 colonies so they are definitely expanding.
NPC include Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Phi, Delta Delta Delta, Delta Gamma, Delta Zeta, Gamma Phi Beta, and Sigma Kappa :D.
IFC include Delta Chi, Kappa Sigma, Phi Kappa Tau, Sigma Alpha Epsilon, Sigma Pi, and Theta Chi. The IFC colonies are Pi Kappa Phi, Pi Kappa Alpha, and Zeta Beta Tau.
All of the Divine 9 are represented at CSULB as well. :)
There are also 12 cultural GLO's on campus as well. :)

Now I serve as an advisor to my GLO at UC Riverside where Greek Life is doing ok but I think there are many things that can be done to make it flourish. Unfortunately, the administration is slow to act on Greek Affairs.
UCR has 10 IFC's, 6 NPC's, 7 NPHC's, and many cultural and professional GLO's.


As an aside, what are you talking about restarted the greek system? My chapter has been continuously on campus since our chartering at CSULB in March of 1965.

BetteDavisEyes 01-04-2008 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1573551)
As an aside, what are you talking about restarted the greek system? My chapter has been continuously on campus since our chartering at CSULB in March of 1965.

I edited my post after some research. Still working on it & will fix when I've got the complete story.

LatinaAlumna 01-04-2008 01:18 AM

I'm a California greek, too. As far as LGLOs go, there are TONS in CA--typically several sororities and fraternities on the larger campuses (UCLA, USC, UCB, etc.).

BetteDavisEyes 01-04-2008 01:23 AM

I was at Disneyland today and saw a large amount of ladies in their letters to I kept count because I'm lame like that. I counted this:

1 Delta Phi Epsilon

2 TriDelta's

2 Alpha Chi Omega's

4 Kappa Delta's

1 Phi Mu

And a large group of girls taking pictures in front of the Sleeping Beauty castle in their very pretty Alpha Phi hoodies.

daniellory 01-04-2008 05:15 PM

I went to a school California and we had a great Greek system. I think schools on the east cost a mid-west have significantly larger Greek systems. Our school had an average of about 80-100 people in each organization. Whereas my friends went to schools that had around 200. I don't know how you could get along with that many people. It almost defeats the purpose.

BetteDavisEyes 01-04-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellory (Post 1574154)
I went to a school California and we had a great Greek system. I think schools on the east cost a mid-west have significantly larger Greek systems. Our school had an average of about 80-100 people in each organization. Whereas my friends went to schools that had around 200. I don't know how you could get along with that many people. It almost defeats the purpose.

Not necessarily. Many schools where Greek Life is big have large amounts of members with pledge classes in the 50's all the way up to the 80's. It just depends on the campus and the campus culture.

Unregistered- 01-04-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellory (Post 1574154)
I went to a school California and we had a great Greek system. I think schools on the east cost a mid-west have significantly larger Greek systems. Our school had an average of about 80-100 people in each organization. Whereas my friends went to schools that had around 200. I don't know how you could get along with that many people. It almost defeats the purpose.

Unfair blanket statement.

You don't need to get along with all 200 members. It just means that you have 199 other sisters who share in your sisterhood.

bejazd 01-04-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes (Post 1569521)
I am an alumna of Cal State Long Beach. The Greek system there was not well-liked by the administration of the school or by some of the school population while I attended there but they did fairly well. NPC has not expanded the Greek system in a long time. There are 7 NPC sororities active on campus and 6 recognized IFC chapters with 3 colonies so they are definitely expanding.
NPC include Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Phi, Delta Delta Delta, Delta Gamma, Delta Zeta, Gamma Phi Beta, and Sigma Kappa :D.

All of the Divine 9 are represented at CSULB as well. :)
There are also 12 cultural GLO's on campus as well. :)

Gamma Phi Beta has also been at CSULB continuously since our chartering in 1962. I'm not aware of any dormant period. I wouldn't say the admin there was negative- they just didn't want to deal with Greek issues. Sigma Kappa re-opened at Long Beach in the late 80's. There wasn't much in the way of multi-cultural groups while I was there, but the NPHC groups were very strong. I think you won't see expansion there mainly because the city of Long Beach has made it virtually impossible to get a permit for any new greek off campus housing. Cost of membership is certainly a factor for many commuter students who don't need housing, so maybe someone could come on and be viable as a lower cost, unhoused option.

LucyKKG 01-04-2008 08:29 PM

Yeah, Greek is housing at UCSC is soooo not happening anytime soon. We aren't even allowed to display Greek letters outside of a house. I don't actually know what the school would do if we did, though, because it's not like they're super involved in our org. Oh, hippies!

BetteDavisEyes 01-04-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bejazd (Post 1574259)
maybe someone could come on and be viable as a lower cost, unhoused option.

Let's not forget the cost of land in Long Beach. The city would likely sell any remaining land to a builder or any other group than the Greek community. I know that many times over the years, there has been talk about building a Greek Row but those talks remain that. Talks. When President Maxson was there, it wasn't too bad. There's just a lot of apathy in some areas.

BetteDavisEyes 01-04-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1574316)
Yeah, Greek is housing at UCSC is soooo not happening anytime soon. We aren't even allowed to display Greek letters outside of a house.

Really? How come?

banditone 01-04-2008 10:00 PM

gangs.








kidding. I don't know.

LucyKKG 01-04-2008 10:38 PM

The school is just really anti-Greek. Apparently, they sent out letters a few decades ago basically telling Greek orgs they weren't interested (Stay away!). Wtf? I guess the main reason is that UCSC isn't supportive of the Greek system. At least the didn't "phase it out" like Santa Clara! The fraternities and sororities there can't even write "Santa Clara University" on a shirt with their letters on it. Lame!

bejazd 01-05-2008 09:20 PM

Just a guess here, but cost and availablility of a property that is zoned for "multi-family" housing have got to be a major considerations. A fixer upper 3-4 bedroom house in Santa Cruz would cost a minimum of $500K, and come with a property tax bill of $5000 a year. It's probably not worth it.

Lucy, is Santa Cruz considered mostly a residential school or a commuter school?

KyleMcGuire1983 01-06-2008 02:37 AM

Yeah California's establishment is pretty against Greeks. They (administrators and legislators) see Greeks as elitist, snobby, rich, and into hazing.

Our school is pretty neutral towards Greeks (until it's time to ask for donations from alumni) but they are adding more and more ridiculous regulations regarding parties (hiring more cops ($100 an hour per cop), hiring fire marshals at $300 an hour), grades, and faculty advisors. I guess the grades and faculty advisors are really that ridiculous.

I think Greek life exists in California...it's just subdued and having letters doesn't make you automatically awesome like it seems to in the South.

Oh well still love California anyway


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