Yeah, everyone in my chapter loved to be the obnoxious pnm during conversation practice...we would have epidemics of everyone playing "THAT" pnm to the point that the membership chair would have to stop everything and announce that some sisters had to be nice, normal pnms!

Hahhaa, yes, this was a frequent occurrence at our chapter, too. haha

It sounds like it is not just this one girl but at least two, if not more. But i would agree that before coming to a conclusion I would like to know the whole story. To some degree it sounds like this girl could have decided that weight was an issue, when it could have been numerous issues. We just don't know.

HEY! That was me too! I'm a terrific conversationalist with people I know and am comfortable with. I tend to withdraw and get shy around those I don't know. I knew going into my first and all later subsequent recruitments that my strengths lay not in conversation but in making things easier for the other girls so I would help with the computer stuff or help the alums with setting up food, decorations, etc.

And like you stated, no one ever told my size 12 ass to hide b/c they were embarrassed by me. I chose to work behind the scenes rather in front of them. It sounds like this girl wasn't given the opportunity.

I agree with you here, unfortunately, some chapters don't offer a whole lot of "behind the scenes" kind of jobs. As someone mentioned earlier, some chapters are so small that the only people they can afford to have in the background are the sisters that are running the show, like the Membership Chair. That is where situations like this arise, usually.

Thank You and You are appreciated with Your Post!;)


High, I am Tom and I am your New Pledge Instructor, and You do not fit with us!

So, all I can say is Goodby!

I hate to do this! See Ya!:o

Is that because your daughters join only the BEST sororities?

This statement from you doesn't surprise me, because when it comes to rush you are pretty shallow.

Sorry to break it to you, but RUSH is shallow. If it wasn't, we could wear whatever we wanted, not wash our hair or put on makeup, and have rush parties in abandoned warehouses and still get the same turnout.

That being said, I stand by my previous statements on this issue.

Ding ding ding. I think this is the answer!!!

There's a difference between putting your best self forward and telling a sister her best self isn't good enough (although it was good enough to give her a bid and collect her dues).

You don't want to get involved in that fight.

That said, I know recruitment is shallow. It's based off of really quick impresions and connections with girls. The assumption that a heavy girl will turn off PNMs is offensive. And this girl is your sister. Are you going to take those "shallow" PNMS and pretend like the heavy girl isn't your sister until initiation? After? Any girl who would go "ugh she's heavy I don't want to be a sister with any of the girls in this room because she's heavy" should NOT be given a bid.

33girl + Drolefille:

I agree. I believe I stated this earlier in the thread; it IS wrong to discriminate against somebody based on their physical appearance, especially over something like this.

Actually, National Panhellenic is moving away from Recruitment "parties," meaning that it will be a lot less shallow, and primarily only based on conversation, as opposed to the glitz of decorations, make up, and skits. In the next few years, they just might be holding recruitment events in "warehouses," so to speak, because they won't be allowed to show off; they will only be able to have conversations with PNMs. Of course, this will be difficult for chapters to transition into, but it could be beneficial in the long run for the Greek System. ;)

How is a lack of decorations going to stop PNM's from thinking "ABC is the fat sorority, I don't want to go there?"

It might not make them think that, but they won't be looking at all of the skits and well-dressed ladies and thinking, this is where I want to be because they are all so super pretty and obviously have TONS of money. And if they think THIS IS A FAT SORORITY, then they are obviously idiots. :D