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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1472276)

In the past few years, I've seen several NPC and NIC groups' websites where they make reference to their "sands", "crossing", "line brothers/sisters" and other terms that previously were used pretty much exclusively by NPHC groups. A lot of the time, these are at schools that aren't just predominantly white, they're REALLY predominantly white.

Does this tick you off, or do you just find it sort of silly?

Not just NPC/NIC groups, a lot of MGLOs (esp Hispanics and Asians) heavily used the terms "syands" (which I assume is the same as "sands"?) and have line jackets too. Not to mention they perform "steps" quite often at cultural shows etc.

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever (Post 1475060)

FLAG ON THE MOTHERLOVIN PLAY!

SYANDS is not a real term. Whoever invented it is wack and whoever perpetuates it is wacker -- and PLEASE tell anyone who uses it that I said so!

They say it means "Same Year AND Semester."

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let any of your friends use this term.

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1475066)

lol, I litterally had this image of you taking a glove and smacking people :D

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1475066)

true fuckin story!!! i hate that SYANDS shit...i also hate when pplz call their own LB/LS sands...i mean ya'll from the same line, not another chapter you locked up with...sorry, thats just a pet peeve i have.

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Originally Posted by BlueNYC2 (Post 1475084)

Well you can call your LB or LS your sands because...literally.....well..... discretion, but you know what I mean. :)

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1473780)

Beginning with s and ending with p? :D

BINGO my fellow SIUC Alum!

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Originally Posted by BlueNYC2 (Post 1475084)

Cali folks do that all the time, and I don't have a problem with that (calling lb/ls "sands"). There's diferent lingo in different parts of the country.

But that syands thing is ungood. :(

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever (Post 1475080)

lol, I litterally had this image of you taking a glove and smacking people :D

That's hot.

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1473416)

But that is my point. Rather than to continue to allow that to happen a support group was formed--Alpha Omega, which I guess became Kappa Alpha Nu. Thus those 10 Black men saw each other often I would assume.

Having first gone to a PWI that only had 50 Black students, we found ways to get together and be each other's support. So was IU's campus so big that folx literally didn't see each other?

Exactly. Not only did they not want this to continue, but they also didn't like the fact that blacks were not allowed to share the same facilities at IU either. Before two of our founding fathers left Howard to attend IU, there were only 10 black students attending IU, so they really would go weeks without seeing another black student.

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1475229)

Cali folks do that all the time, and I don't have a problem with that (calling lb/ls "sands"). There's diferent lingo in different parts of the country.

Yes, we do.:)

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1475229)

But that syands thing is ungood. :(

Agreed

Esqueeze me.
What is syands?

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Originally Posted by TheEpitome1920 (Post 1475395)

Esqueeze me.
What is syands?

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1475066)

FLAG ON THE MOTHERLOVIN PLAY!

SYANDS is not a real term. Whoever invented it is wack and whoever perpetuates it is wacker -- and PLEASE tell anyone who uses it that I said so!

They say it means "Same Year AND Semester."Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let any of your friends use this term.

:D giggle, snicker

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Originally Posted by BlueNYC2 (Post 1475084)

There was a time when your lb or ls did not necessarily become your sands/ship. So the term was used to make the distinction.

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1473124)

I don't think anyone said that the Founders of our orgs did not create our rituals, but maybe the rits were influenced by other orgs such as the Masons, OES, or even other GLOs. Unless you talked to your Founders personally how would you know this didn't happen?

Just how unique are we? And to say our traditions imitate no other is incorrect. In fact the history of stepping did not start with BGLOs. And many of the traditions to which you refer began in the last 30 years are less--crossing jackets, hand signs, calls, etc. And as I said before even the term Sands is not universally used the same within the NPHC.

Interesting analogy since most of the NPHC orgs were founded at a HBCU. And if Black folx went for weeks at a PWI without seeing another Black student, how in the heck were they able to form a fraternity/sorority? There had to have been some kind of mechanism for them to come together.

Actually since I went to two different PWI's it's not hard at all for me to see this being the case and I'm sure that it was. One school I went to in upstate Pennsylvania (where the Black population was damn near non-existent in the early 90's and still not all that plentiful today), had a Black population so small that we all knew eachother personally, and yes we could go all day without seeing another Black person. The only reason we saw eachother some days at all is because we made it a point to meet in the cafeteria for dinner. We also became friends so we hung out in eachother's rooms and we also had a Black Student Union so that is how we were able to do things together and socialize with one another. I believe creating these kinds of groups is how our founders and others at PWI's stayed connected and later formed greek letter organizations.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1472276)

I'm suprised that any NPC group would allow this as those terms (at least "crosing") are no-no words like "pledge"