"Exactly," MysticCat called, as he disappeared into the woods.

Sorry I deleted my post. Kevin is a member of a group which has a historic relationship, but it's not the group from the original question that I saw when I went back to look.

It would seem that he's well qualified to discuss historic, unofficial relationships, which, as near as I can tell, is all he tried to do.

I am a member of the group in question. In a book that i recieved as a new member this is how it is stated. " Since the beginning of our sorority existence, Alpha Xi Delta has fondly thought of Sigma Nu as our "brother" fraternity. Of course, it is an unofficial relationship..."

*directing traffic*

Move along people.....nothing more to see here.

:o

Thanks. I wasn't sure whether or not it was in the new member manual, but I knew it was in some Alpha Xi document. We have received gifts on a couple of occasions from your chapter with what I guess is that page out of your pledge book along with the picture I guess is next to it -- all framed very nicely. Anyhow, we know what we know, don't we? :)

Well the Phi Mu and Sigma Nu creed are basically the same thing (some lines are almost word for word our's is just shorter), however, no NPC has a "brother" fraternity and there is no mention in my pledge manual as to how/why the creeds are so similar. I do know that it was written a few years after our name change from Philomathean Society to Phi Mu though.

Until then,
Love, Honor, Truth y'all!

There was some kind of connection way back in the day but I don't remember what it is. It was either in a manual or history book or maybe I found it online. I do know that there was some sort of connection.

And you're right. That doesn't make them our brother fraternity.

Only speaking for Phi Mu now?

That's good. :)

Perhaps you should actually think of others rather than yourself.

I'm a member of NPC. I served on my campus' Panhel. I know the rules. I know that all NPC sororities discourage the brother-sister relationship... or SHOULD be discouraging it. I spoke of what I knew from Panhel, as did the other NPC sisters in this thread.

I'm curious what Alpha Xi Delta's HQ says about this. Was this written by a chapter member in the book? Or is this a book from their HQ? And if this is from their HQ, then I wonder what NPC has to say about it since they discourage it.

Why did this have to get so contentious?

Kevin didn't claim to speak for all groups or claim to speak about formal relationships existing, as near as I can tell.

Everyone had a chance to explain what he or she knew to give a complete sense of the picture, which seems to be: although no official national relationships exist and are discouraged by NPC, some groups have historic or campus level bonds.

Couldn't it have been more polite?

ETA: Some topics themselves ARE controversial and people may be very passionate about them; I can see why people get snappy in some threads. It's just really weird that this one brought out.

What exactly do you mean? You replied (in a fairly condescending manner) that I was wrong. I pointed out to you that you were assuming a whole lot and that in fact, I was accurate. I'm really not sure how that makes me self-centered, or how my self-centered-ness is even relevant to this conversation.

It's in their new member manual.

Or at least, so I'm told.

So you say...:)

Thanks for pretending to know about my organization's history as well as another organization though. Do the rules govern what historical accounts/relationships can say and be as well? I never claimed that we have any sort of official bond whatsoever. It's simply a fact that due to history, Sigma Nu is recognized by Alpha Xi Delta historically as its "brother" organization. It's not as if this appears in either organization's Constitution/Bylaws. If this is a violation of NPC policy, surely someone a little more elevated than a former campus active-chapter panhell officer would have said or done something about it.

I think polite got thrown out the window when Kevin said he hated homeless people in the other thread.

The cover story of the latest issue of our magazine "The Quill" was devoted to the Alpha Xi Delta - Sigma Nu connection...

you can read it here

http://www.alphaxidelta.org/pdfs/qui...lwin06full.pdf

I missed that. Surely there's more to this story, right?

It's cute story! I love the pictures of the couples.