Guess it just said it all by the two above Posters!:(

I really do feel sorry.

What the hell is it that you feel sorry for us about? That we are/were productive members of our fraternities at our own schools? Do you expect us to go on some nationwide tour of different fraternities in an effort to unify various Greek Organizations? That may be on your agenda, but it certainly isn't on mine. Graduating, working, having a good time with the fraternities and sororities AT MY OWN school, and figuring out life after undergrad are a few of the things that are high up on my list of priorities.

I'm not even kidding anymore.........what you say on here is some of the most ridiculous and idiotic crap I have ever read. I honestly don't think I have ever come accross someone that is so utterly incapable of rational thought as you. The fact that I have asked you at least three times to explain yourself without you even coming close to doing so is a mere testament to the level of dumb in which you have achieved.

Good day sir.

In my opinion pledging to be loyal to your organization is a promise to be honored. I'm not going to like every Alpha Gam on the planet...heck I'm not even going to like every single Alpha Gam that goes through my chapter. But we all promised loyalty to Alpha Gamma Delta. Not just to our chapter, but to Alpha Gamma Delta and to each other...not everyone sees it the same way, but I wouldn't have joined and made promises just to have a social club...I take promises and loyalty seriously and I feel I have an obligation to my sisters, whether I like them or not, whether they are like me or not.

As for Greek unity, it's a valuable concept. It doesn't mean putting all your time and effort into someone else's organization, it just means cooperating, being nice, civil, and sometimes compromising for the greater good, which strengthens a school's Greek system and benefits everyone. It's really not that hard and it's very beneficial.

Nobody said anything about a social club. I have a strong bond with the members of my chapter. I can identify with them, we have similar backgrounds, opinions, and beliefs. I can't do that with a lot of people from our other chapters. I think for a lot of fraternity members, there are probably other fraternities that they can identify with, if they were members. They probably even believe in many of the same ideals as fraternities different from their own. What separates your own fraternity from the one across the street? Experiences, similarities, personal bonds. Those same things separate me from members in our chapter at California University at Hippieville. I'm sorry, but unless I have some personal experience with people from other chapters, if they're completely different from me, our similar beliefs in strong but possibly vague principles aren't going to provide an unbreakable bond.

I can relate to shinerbock completely...I've met several members from different chapters across the nation. However, just because they are in the same national fraternity does not mean that I am automatically going to treat them as if they were my pledge brothers. Most of the other chapters are not people that I would normally hang out with. Now, I'm not saying that is terrible...just that they are different from me. It's not being narrow minded...its just reality

Also, I think ElephantWalk disappeared after ragging on the arkansas xi chapter...

Granted not each Chapter is the same and may not be what We as individuals would expect. But, each GLO went through the same Ritual and pledged their Honor to their Sisters and Brothers

As far as working together as GLO's, yes it is important.

If any really have an idea, then that is why there are Conferences of GLO's set up who are working together.

I for one am proud to call people from other GLO's my friends.:)

Some need to be much more open minded. The world is much bigger that just being "I"!

I just don't really care about other fraternities. I like seeing the greek system at my school thrive, but I don't really care about what happens at Oswego State.

You never said anything about simply having friends in other chapters. I have plenty of friends that are in other fraternities.

As far as working with other fraternities.....I still have no idea what you are talking about. I have been to plenty of nationwide SAE events.....and they certainly weren't attended by a bunch of other fraternities. Perhaps you are talking about Alumni groups from different chapters collaborating with each other. I dunno......I'm sure you won't be able to explain it anyways.

This is what I was talking about. A promise is a promise. I didn't say be best buddies with everyone in the whole orginzation. But if I meet an Alpha Gam I'm going to treat her as a sister, because that's what I promised to do, even if she's completely heinous.

I agree, but there seem to be some who do not agree! They are in such a samll world that they cannot seem to see beyond the "I" syndrom and the here and now.:rolleyes:

Oh Well, they will never see byond the small noses!:rolleyes:

Hey asshat.........neither of us said we wouldn't treat other members nicely and with respect.