Point well taken John G!:)

If as you say if We as a International Fraternity do not persue this situation and lose the copyright then we are remiss. But I hardly think this will just go by the wayside for that very reason.

Be aware that the current management at IHQ are no slouches and Brother Biff can and does have a legal mind and a long memory!:D

I am sure as we type things are in the working process!:)

True,
Here's another spin on it. Can you imagine the stink that would occur if a major label signed them and the band insisted on using "their" logo? For the time being they are just another run-of-the-mill independent band that will probably break rather than be discovered and signed.
If they were under the umbrella of a label and using the COA, IHQ would definitely go after them.

LOL, I am thinking this is to funny

"IF" they may become big is an assumption first off!:D

Go IHQ, bend their ear and tell them the facts!:)

I keep hoping that someone will steal one of my songs, in which case I'll wait a good long time for it to make a lot of money before bringing up the fact that I wrote it. :)

Ok,

So maybe I will write and compose a song with the same exact words of our creed, word for word,or maybe just take a part of our ritual and make that into a song. There are some catchy song lyrics in there!

I'll then burn some CD's and start selling them to make myself a nice profit.

Anyone see anything wrong with that?

"secrets" revealed
 

The "secret greek motto" they put on the top banner is just the band
name written with Microsoft's SYMBOL FONT. I love it when idiots think
that all they have to do to translate into Greek is to write in English then
change the font! lol

Kevin

haha. i noticed that as well. ^^

Greek vs. Latin
 

And the best part is that the top banner and bottom banners are Latin. So, Greek isn't even an option to fake using Symbol. And, neither banners are in latin in their mockery, so it's even funnier than I thought.

So, would any of you mind if I set the following words to music, burn some CD's and started selling them?

We believe in love, and its traditions, principles and ideals. The heart is our symbol; pure, high ever growing, and love is our guide; denoting service, sacrifice, and even suffering and humiliation before the world, bravely endured if need be, in following that ideal.

May we have faith in love and passion for its welfare. May we have hope for the future of love and strength to fight for its teachings. May we have pure hearts, that we may approach the ideal of perfect love.

Anyone know of a good drummer in the New England area that wants to get in on some quick, easy CD profits? This new song is going to be a big hit with the teenage crowed!

Also looking for an experienced bass player to make this happen!

None of you guys that think stealing our CoA is a minor issue would mind...right...right?

Check the other threads...this one is already set to music. It's
called Roundball Rock...:-)

Interestingly enough, by bringing it to the attention of IHQ, those who saw it on there force IHQ to take action. On the other hand, if it had been left alone, and nobody could prove that IHQ knew about it, it would not have affected the right to pursue future trademark cases.

Notice argument
 

I wouldn't want to place my success into the notice basket. It can always be said that "We didn't know, and if we had, we would have taken action" but Federal courts seem to look unfavorably on that argument, at least in the Central District here in California.


Much better to go after it now, when it is fresh, than bet on the court buying a notice argument later.

I think its "standard practice" for IHQ (or their legal firm) to send a
"cease and desist" letter to the perpetrators, notifying them that they
are violating U.S. law and could be prosecuted. As long as they don't
become "famous", nothing more would happen. I think that satisfies the
"defend or loose" condition for keeping the copyright.

I once was on faculty at a university in Indiana that did not allow
"fraternities". Instead they had "service/social organizations" that for
all practical purposes were local fraternities/sororities. All "unofficially"
adopted greek-letter names. One called itself "LXA"...they used our
letters, COA, and other emblems. Supposedly they were "initiated"
by LXA at Ball State U. and given permission to use LXA (at least
that's what they told their rushees).

After a little "infiltration", I discovered they knew nothing of LXA.
They didn't even know what PCC, VQV and ChTK stood for!

I also found out IHQ had sent them a "C&D letter" in the early 90's,
but had taken no further action. When I left in 2001, they had
"lost their charter" from the Univ. due to infractions, so I don't know
if they still exist...they were continuing to operate without Univ.
recognition at the time. They were basically the "football players'
frat".

FYI

Greek Licenses
 

Greetings,

I noticed last week that a seller of First Day Covers on eBay had to stop using the COAs of various fraternities and sororities that were represented by a company that held the rights to use them on sportswear and so forth. The licensing company threatened to take legal action.

Yours in ZAX,

Mike R., Z-U Zeta