Originally Posted by valkyrie

Yet again, this is a matter of personal preference. If a guy tried to take my coat off for me or pull out my chair, I'd be very annoyed.

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl

You know what? I think it would annoy me too. Once or twice would be a nice gesture, but I couldn't take it all the time. Just sit your azz down. LOL

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1317927)

So when you say 'thug', you don't necessarily mean the drug dealer from the street corner, but a man that mistreats women in general?

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1317931)

I think what starang is saying is women like their men strong, well I do anyway. I like a man who has a strong character and who can be my rock. I don't want a man who's scared to say something to the next man if he disrespects me. I want a man who will stand up for his family. In other words, I don't want a punk. I want strength and courage. That doesn't mean I want a man that beats me, but I want to feel protected by my man. Although I can't spreak for all women, I think that's what many women want in a man. Not saying that women don't also want sensitivity and understanding from their man, but I think some women like more of that and some like a little less. It just depends on the woman.

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1318114)

and a woman doesn't want a man who's soft either. a man who is masculine can do all of those things and still not be a bitch.

Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1318127)

Yet again, this is a matter of personal preference. If a guy tried to take my coat off for me or pull out my chair, I'd be very annoyed.

And what does it mean to support someone physically or spiritually?

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1318147)

You know what? I think it would annoy me too. Once or twice would be a nice gesture, but I couldn't take it all the time. Just sit your azz down. LOL

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1318213)

I had an ex that I would literally race to the car because it got annoying that he would always open the car door for me.

Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1319547)

Exactly. It's the ones who don't do these things are the bitches.

Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1319545)

I feel ya. If I were a woman, I wouldn't want a punk either. But why do you think because a guy treats his woman with the upmost respect makes him weak, as if he's soft and won't protect his woman, household and family?

Originally Posted by KAY10 (Post 1319555)

Today, most woman would be very annoyed at this.:rolleyes:

Spiritual can be whatever the woman is going through. It can be anything emotional. Physically means he should be able to fulfill her physical needs. What ever they may be.

Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1319738)

Eyeroll right back atcha, homes.

As for meeting spiritual/emotional/physical needs, I'm of the opinion that BOTH people in a relationship need to do that.

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1319633)

but there are also dudes who aren't masculine who do all of the above. and said dudes are the same ones to complain about how nice men finish last. hell, no woman is going to want that. they're basically a tit anyway.

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl (Post 1319648)

I don't think that. :) I think you can be an upmost gentleman and still not be a punk. I'm just not a very romantic person most of the time, so I don't need the car doors opened for me or candlelight dinners or flowers. I'm just happy with the plain old person being themselves. Renting movies and eating Doritos would make me just as happy, probably happier, because we're in the comfort of our own home. I don't like a big fuss. That's just the way I am though, a Plain Jane. lol