Well its hard for me to comment on the majority of the last part of your post due to my inexperience, but I do agree that sex does seem to be very, very, very important to a lot of people and that's why I said in the beginning being different can suck sometimes. There is no standard 21 year old state of mind...in fact I have friends in serious long term relationships. I guess if we were to look at it the way you stated though, you could say that I'm ahead of my time perhaps or just unique (which what I seek to be). Why wouldn't you find a guy with Christian values appealing?

Well, I personally don't think there's any such thing as "god," so I'd have a hard time being in a serious relationship with someone who did and who lived his life accordingly. Of course, I'm in the minority in this country in that respect, so my opinion isn't terribly relevant to you.

The funny thing is that a lot of people are claiming that sober virgins are preachy and judgemental. Take a step back and look at what you're doing. He has not presented himself as judgemental, though you jumped on one phrase in ONE reply. Yet you are judging him and people like him!

Hello!
Logic train.. it went that way.. hop on board.

Assuming that any 21 year old who's a virgin is gay, repressed, hyper-religious, or going to hump anything that moves after the first time is STUPID.

Just as you would hope a guy you meet wouldn't look at your sexual past and go "UGH" you really shouldn't do the same to him.

Seeing yourself in a long term relationship is exactly when sex should occur. Sex is basically the most vulnerable moment in your life. The time when a laugh can crush you, and when you are emotionally and physically naked in front of your partner. There's no way in HELL I'm doing that with someone I don't trust completely.

And if I broke up with my current long term boyfriend, I would have to get to know someone very well before I'd take that chance.

/Your results may vary
//Psychology of Sex is a FUN class

WTF? He asked for opinions. He's getting them. What's the problem? If he's bothered by what anybody is saying, he's perfectly capable of saying so himself.

It's great if you think that "Seeing yourself in a long term relationship is exactly when sex should occur." It's not great if you're going to blast people for giving opinions that were REQUESTED because you're defensive. If you're not defensive, why else would you respond like this? Everybody has an opinion on the issue of sex/drinking/drug use and in this thread, people have expressed those opinions. Why go into attack mode?

Ummm...calm down chica. lol

But, I do agree that sex is one of the most vulnerable moments in your life, where you don't have much control. So is being high or wasted. Or flying, lol.

Because some people actually like it. They aren't drinking because they need to. They are drinking because they like to. It's like having the second piece of cake. You don't need it, but you want it because it tastes good.

Do we really need to paste a disclaimer at the top of all of our posts saying "THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION"?? Is it really that hard to recognize??

Nope, not at all.

I do not drink (have never drank), do not smoke (have never smoked) and do not do drugs. My boyfriend is the same exact way. A lot of my friends are the same exact way. It isn't a religious conviction, more subculture movement, called Straightedge (sXe or Straight Edge or xStraightxEdgex or one of a million other ways to put it). Rather than get into the long, drawn out explaination, here's the simplified version from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

Everyone's got their own reasons for their actions. My claiming Straightedge has been a guiding force in my life...the people I've met through edge and punk have been incrdibly supportive through some of the lowest points of my life. In many ways, it was that fraternity that made me the way I am.

.."two roads diverged in a wood, and I? I took the one less traveled by."

Because I feel like you guys are on the attack for someone who chooses not to do the same thing you do. I feel like the judging is hypocritical. For someone to get all uptight about a guy not having sex, and be offended if anyone questions if what they do is right.... is just silly.

I blame extra anger on the lack of sleep...but..

The long term relationship thing isn't really a belief. We studied this stuff in my psych class. Psychology is never definate like "hard" science, but it does show trends and such. Hence my statements on vulnerability, etc...

I notice people who tend to get upset about those who Don't drink/do drugs/have sex, seem to think that by the very nature of someone NOT doing these things, THEY are being judged... so they go on the defensive.

He asked a question with very few details. We answered. He then asked why. We answered. It seemed to be a decent conversation until the those-who-shall-post-in-every-single-thread club-and-turn-it-into-their-own-thread decided to show up.

Funny how the people you're talking about had 5 of the first 10 posts on this thread, where you claim it was decent conversation. And I don't see ANY off topic posts until the one quoted above. I didn't realize that we can't even post ON TOPIC anymore without being criticized. Sorry.:rolleyes:

OMG, you are not actually complaining about this.

Seriously, you can't be that petty.

Like I said in my latest post, I was tired last night, and excessively upset about it.

I STILL think it's hypocritical... that doesn't make it less of a conversation. And the I do believe that I posted earlier as well.

The ONLY post not directly on topic was Alphafrog asking if we really need to post "THIS IS MY OPINION" on every post. Heck I posted "Your results may vary" which was in my eyes the same thing, and that didn't matter either. OH wait, the other off topic post was your insult.

kddani, You may be a moderator and you may be a lawyer, but that does not excuse what seems to be an intent to personally attack me or any other member of this message board. You seem to have a grudge against us. While I'm sure you won't allow it to affect your moderating responsibilities I think that you need to understand that we are not doing anything wrong or ruining any threads. If you want to find a "ruined" thread, look at "Top Greek Schools" and that STUPID sidekick thread in Alpha Delta Phi Society...

Those are BAD threads. This wasn't one.

LOL.

-RC
--Trust me, you don't want to get academic with me, sister!

Don't laugh at me... you'll be a thread ruin-er too!

ZOMG RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Does that mean I can laugh at you, because I'm already a thread ruin-er?

Hahahaha.