LOL @ DSTCHAOS....I'm a female. I wondered if the '06 at the end of my screen name would throw people off, but I figured people would know that "PerfectVerse" sounded girly.

The '06 is for the year, nothing related to Alpha Phi Alpha.

PerfectVerse doesn't sound "girly" to me.

Oh well, you're a female (and you aren't an Alpha). :)

I understand why Ford feels the way he does...but when I first read the article it seemed to me that he was accusing USC of treating SC State unfairly because State is a HBC...he also made it seem by his words that SC State would only be able to have 2000 fans there. In reality SC State is recieving twice as many free tickets than other similarly situated (other instate Div-IAA schools). They are getting the same number of tickets alloted to them as every other Div-IAA school (with the exception of the Citadel in 2009 I believe but that contract was negotiated by a different Athletic Director). There will also be more than ample opprotunities for SC State fans to get tickets outside the stadium before the game, especially since I still do not think this game will generate huge interest from a lot of USC season ticket holders.

Yes, I think Ford is allowed to queston the allotment of tickets for the football game and I understand that he is concerned that they are not giving the historic aspect of the game its due credit.

However, I do have a problem that he is basing his claims on the fact that SC State is an HBC and he feels that not giving them more tickets is disrespectful to black people and derides the Black community. I think that is ridiculous. He also makes another racial statment by saying that white people aren't going to view the game in the same respects as Black people will.

If he wants to ask for more tickets, thats fine.....but don't bring race into it. Its obvous that he did...I don't see how you can argue that. The simple fact is, SC has an obligation to its alumni and fans to provide them with as many tickets as possible. They offer the same amount of tickets to all D1 AA...so that should be enough.....especially to a school that barely draws 12,000 fans to its OWN home games. Besides the point, it is not hard to get tickets to a football game, regardless of how many SC is officially alloting for SC State. Go to the stadium an hour before the game and buy one from a scalper.

HBCU is the correct acronym. South Carolina State is no longer a "college." It became a "university" many years ago, hence the SCSU acronym.

macallan--

It seems that watching this info unfold that there are some "back room deals" going on between the schools that the media and press are not privvy to...

There may be something the USC wanted SC State to do for them for the game that they are going to play and SC State felt that they were getting the short end of the stick... So, SC State invoked "controversy" to get what they wanted and wanted to see if USC would recapitulate...

My guess, folks are in South Carolina... Recapitulation doesn't happen often... And what are the alternatives... Boycott? Could SC State do that?

However, it would probably break a huge contract when somebody who doesn't have money couldn't pay... Basically, SC State may have pigeon-holed themselves always seeing the big bucks and being reactive when stuff doesn't go their way, rather than taking a wait and see attitude... And that seems to happen in SC State's communities across the United States... It is just the way it is perceived.

I dunno if it will change. I really am not into that right now. But after all the language that has been thrown, I am hearing what you are saying...

Exactly, they tried to make a controversy out of the whole deal....when there was nothing to bring about concern. USC's actions were fair and consistent with their policies concerning all other visiting teams......and they paid SCState what, 240,000$? Seems reasonable to me.

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Naw, it sounds like someone made a bigger deal and SC State wants a piece of that pie... $240K isn't enough especially if you've got media coverage on a major network and your star players are gonna be out...

If you have EVER been to a HBCU-football game, it isn't about the game, it's about all the other activities that go on around the game. Namely, the band at the Halftime Show. I dunno how SC State's band is ('cuz I am a firm believer in the FAMU's Marching 100 ;) ) but that is a BIG DEAL in "Black College Football".

So it sounds like, even though crap got "invoked", that SC State probably was getting cut out of the "money deal" when they were probably providing a bulk of the entertainment...

All of this the public is not privvy to because most folks are not in the realm of thinking. If one never tries to understand folks, how will he or she realize what the true message is being said? It is just not in their purview...

And yeah, USC probably kick that azz of SC State...

But it's funny, 'cuz when I see USC, I'm thinking University of Southern California... :rolleyes: ;) So much for the PAC-10...

Although my husband is a 'Canes fan and is ALL about the ACC...

This isn't a game between two HBCUs....its an SEC homegame. It isn't going to be the same as a game between two Black Universities. And what are you talking about with them getting "cut" out of the money deal. Where did you get that? Did you just pull that out of thin air? SCSU and the three other Div 1AA in state teams that are slated to play SC at home (Furman, The Citadel, and Wofford) are all getting paid 230,000$ to play until 2010, and then from 2011 on it gets increased to 250,000$. So I don't know what you are even talking about with them getting screwed some how.

SCSU isn't paying for media coverage. Again, its an SC homegame. I can't imagine that this game will be televised to a national audience on a major network, but if it is...that is something that is worked out through a contract with the network and the home team, as well as the SEC. Aside from that, SC shouldn't have to, and it would be completely ridiculous, for them to PAY SCSU because they might have a couple of good players injured. Thats dumb. And how can you say right now that the best playes for SCSU aren't going to play......the game is in 2007????

Either way, it seems like you are trying to make something out of nothing. The simple fact is, SC didn't make any bigger deals with any of the other teams that they have slated to play (the three other D1AA teams). And I have no idea what point you are trying to make with the whole band thing.

Coverage on a major network?

Not likely.

Regional at best, even if it's one one of the majors.

A quarter of a million dollars is a pretty big gate for a school in that division.

I know it is NOT a game between 2 HBCUs... That is quite obvious to folks posting on this thread. However, it sounds to me like SC State is trying to get some money from the folks who have it... SC State doesn't pull in the kinna dough that USC does with Spurrier and a SEC game...

I am not saying SC State is getting screwed. I am saying SC State wants some action, though... Are they warrented? I dunno enuf about that side of world in college football...

Folks do get to see that stuh on ESPN Gameplan depending on their selections. Maybe that's the slice of the pie that SC State is dreaming about...

I dunno who's on SC States line-up... Anyone of interest? I don't think so.

These kinds of games are no more than a scrimmage for the "home team". USC and Spurrier are going to romp all over SC State. That much is obvious.

As far as the "band" thing goes, you need to rent out the movie Drumline to get an idea. It is not in your "purview" or "reality" because you don't come from that world. It is outside of your "comfort zone" of cultural relevancy. Most of the older GC'er can tell that and would refuse to argue that with you. But I will say it as long as we can keep it cool and copasethetic...

It doesn't mean you cannot understand, it just means you have never been exposed to it or share the excitement of it... Just the same as if I were to go "base jumping" at the X-games--not my reality--aside from the fact I am too old...

I am well aware of how things work at All Black college football games and of the importance of the bands. Grambling isn't that far from my hometown in East Texas. I questioned you about that because I didn't see how it was relevant to the current situation.

You still aren't making very much sense. SC State is pulling in some money from the people who have it....230,000$ to be exact. And I don't have the first clue who is on SCState's team. You made a comment about how 230,000$ wasn't enough for a team considering media coverage and something about how their "star players" were gonna be out.

Naw, not SC State's "star players"... Do they have any? But USC's "star players" if they decide to play this game?

My thinking is if you have USC and Spurrier and these "star players" on the team, they are going to have media coverage regardless if it's from Gameplan or Johnson's (I forget the name).

I am guessing why homie is pissed off with USC and the tickets and I could be wrong, but it sounds like SC State thinks that $240K (or whatever it is) is not enough when USC, Spurrier and "their star players" are gonna get some kind of media coverage--either regional or otherwise... If anything it is greedy...

SC State wants a piece of the action. And even if USC's star players only make one play, that is one play that gets on TV and recorded... From SC State's perspective, that's one of "their plays" from whateva players that ALSO gets recorded--meaning it may mean $$$ for them. That's where the greed part comes in from SC States thinking...

can we just eliminate South Carolina as a state? Even people who live there say it sucks