I found out this morning from one of my assistants and then went online while the kids were at lunch and read it. But the gossip mill had been circling anyways, so it wasn't much of a shocker.

As for the baby issue: I personally feel (and this is strictly my person feelings) that Jen does want kids, she just doesn't want them now (even a year from now isn't now), while Brad wanted them like three years ago. He wanted them before Friends ended. When Friends ended he very publically stated that they were going to start having a family. That didn't happen. Even if they both want kids, but one wants them this second and the other wants to keep waiting, it's going to cause HUGE issues in a marriage.

As for the "affair": I personally don't feel that Angelina had a "sexual" relationship with Brad until after he and Jennifer were seperated. I say this because in EVERY (and I mean every) interview where affairs have been brought up Angelina states that she would never have sex with a married guy because her father did that to her mother. Now, just because I don't think they had sex doesn't mean I don't think they had a relationship. I think they definately had a relationship prior to "getting together".

Angelina's baby issue: Although it boggles my mind when in today's day and age an accidental pregnany can occur (with condoms and bcps and every other thing under the sun), I get that shit happens, so this pregnancy could have been the biggest "oops" or planned. We will never know that. All we can do is speculate.


Agree with me. Disagree with me. That's fine. Just respect that this is my opinion.

Maybe this has nothing to do with Jennifer Aniston. Maybe Brad just fell in love with Angelina. Maybe he just stopped loving Jennifer. Maybe there are factors that none of us know and are really none of our business.

In Hollywood Steven Speilberg and Kate Capshaw, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, and Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward are considered some of the perfect celebrity marriages. Guess what? All of those men were married when they met their wives. This kind of stuff happens all the time, and not just among celebrities.

I don't understand why so many people are so invested in this particular situation. Marriages end. Sometimes the nicest people with the best intentions get married and a few years down the road the marriage just isn't working or one person falls in love with someone else. It's sad if it happens to you or your family or friends. It's not a national tragedy when it happens to celebrities you don't know and never will no matter how many times you watch their movies or tv shows.

I agree with everything you are saying. I think that people (women, because I don't see any guys who give a rat's ass) are invested in this particular situation because they think holy crap, if someone as gorgeous and successful and wonderful as Jennifer Aniston can have a husband who cheats on her (because they're assuming he did cheat on her) the same thing can totally happen to me because I'm ugly/fat/not successful/insecure for no good reason. Because Angelina is often viewed as a little weird, it's easy to villanize her and hold her up as being SO TERRIBLE and a HOMEWRECKER. Women like her freak out women who are insecure -- she's sexy and a little dangerous and SOMEONE JUST LIKE HER WILL STEAL YOUR HUSBAND IF YOU DON'T WATCH IT.

I don't know whether Brad cheated on Jen and I don't care, but I hate to see people trashing someone the way Angelina is being trashed. It's just like the thread where people are ripping on Lindsay Lohan -- seriously, if women weren't so judgmental of other women, we'd be much better off. And what motivates women to trash other women? Insecurity. Plain and simple.

I'd like to see this question answered.

I like the idea of Baby Brangelina.

Brad's biological clock was ticking way before he ever met Jennifer Aniston. When he was involved with Gwenyth Paltrow, he was very much into wanting to get married and having children. Paltrow wanted to wait and rightly so. I'm sure his feathers were ruffled when she went off married and had a baby right away with that singer whose name I can't remember.

It's no secret that he's known for having a bad temper and he smacked around Juliette Lewis when they dated. Just because he can play the part on film doesn't mean he can pull it off in real life.

I say they should avoid the rush and reserve seats on the therapists couch for the ookabillion kids they want to raise.

I kind of see it the other way. Like hey, Even JENNIFER ANISTON got cheated on.. you can't take it personally if someone like her gets dumped for another woman! It's just that men are pigs! (And maybe we're not really made for monogamy .. but that's another thread).

wow - why did i just find out about this???????

Dang. If I'd known that my one smarta$$ comment in this thread was going to cause so much controversy, I wouldn't have posted it in the first place. But I can say with absolute certainty that my "homewrecker" comment does not mean that I'm an insecure woman. I just don't think Angelina has any class. I didn't like what I saw of her before she hooked up with Brad Pitt, and my opinion of her has deteriorated even further since. No, I don't have any proof that she and Pitt had an affair before his divorce. But I do find it pretty coincidental that the problems in the marriage became public right as she and Pitt were filming Mr. and Mrs. Smith together. Considering her well-publicized relationships with past leading men, it doesn't seem that illogical. (FWIW, Mr. dzrose93 agrees. In fact, he used the "h" word to describe both Brad and Angelina today on our way home from work. Does that make him insecure, too?)

Anyway, it's the entertainment forum for Pete's sake. Celebrity gossip is, for me anyway, just mindless fun. I certainly didn't mean to start a war of words. My utmost apologies to anyone that I inadvertently offended.

ETA: In my opinion, the reason that this particular bit of celebrity news is so popular is because Pitt and Aniston were married for a while and seemed very happy together, plus Aniston is well-liked because of her "girl next door" quality. I think a lot of folks probably are thinking "poor Jennifer" because they feel some sort of connection to her, maybe partly because of her Friends days. They can relate to her, and it's much harder to relate to someone like Jolie who has done some well-publicized off-the-wall things (wearing a vial of Thornton's blood around her neck, for example).

Chris Martin from Coldplay and they named the baby APPLE! Apple, for crying out loud!! :p Although heaven knows every time Gwyneth does an interview she brings Brad up...as opposed to Juliette who I've never heard mention him ever.

I agree with Dee. If Jennifer can get cheated on, then hell, men are all just dogs. I've gone through a breakup recently and it's hard enough just with my circle of friends...I can't imagine having to do all of it in front of the whole world.

No need to worry. There isn't anyone else just like Angelina Jolie. I'd hazard a guess most men will tell you that she is about the only woman in the world who would make him stray from a Jennifer Aniston.

I'm just saying . . . .

I really don't understand Angelina. I don't think she's particularly beautiful....scary/dangerous, yes, but not beautiful. Maybe men like her because she's known to go both ways? I read an article about her ex-lesbian lover, Jenny something-or-other...

Or do guys prefer "dangerous" women over beautiful ones?

LOL! You're right and I know just what you mean. It's just something about them.

Regardless of who did what to whom, they all seem pretty darn happy now. I think that Angelina and Brad are a great couple. They seem to have much more in common than Brad and Jen.

I also agree with what someone else mentioned about Jen SAYING that she was ready to have children. I will be VERY surprised if she ever does. She just doesn't strike me as a very motherly type of person.

I've heard SO many men talk about how gorgeous she is! And I still just don't get it. I understand that men think she is very sexy, but I just have a hard time understanding why. Yes, she is beautiful, but damn she has made herself look like such a freak in the past.

Is it the lips??? Cause that is the main thing I hear men talk about with regards to her.

I think she and Vince should have babies!!! :) Haha, it would prove once and for all to everyone that she meant it when she said she wanted a family, and DAMN what a stab it would be at Brad to have kids right away with the next guy that she finds. :p

That last paragraph is pretty much a joke- but I do think she and Vince look cute together.

Can someone on GC pretend to know some of them and post the real reason they broke up?

-Rudey