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www.epehesians5-11.org are all former freemsaons WHO ARE NOW BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS in CHRIST JESUS

hitler was not only a so-called catholic he was a member of the thule society(secret society).

it IS what is inside of a man's heart that matters

YAHSHUA/JESUS IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

www.fish4masons.org

ezekial 8 ezekial 28

RELIGION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE NEED A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS THE ANNOINTED ONE

EzekiEl:D

EzekiEl saw the wheel way out in the middle of the field.

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Originally posted by hiram7500
I am an OES member. My husband is a Mason.
I have spent 8 years researching masonry to it's roots.
I regret to inform you that with all your so-called education, you - none of you who are condemning Masonry or OES know what you're talking about.

Hiram Abiff is symbolic of a 'Master Builder' one who strives to make him self godlike. He appreciates others and respects their religious choice un like any of you.

Christianity, Islam, buddisim teaches their members that all other religions are false and the work of the devil. Right?
Well guess what--there is no devil! It's all made up! That's right.
All made up by the catholic church to control you..your thoughts.. your life.

Your reference to the http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ website is absolutely the WRONG PLACE TO LOOK for the truth. All they want is to KEEP YOU FROM finding it.

The historical beginnings of christianity are where you need to look...Jesus had nothing to do with it's present form. He was a highly educated GNOSTIC...and married....and had children!

May I recommend
http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdisc...stmission.html
Then I recommend you read how the christians had millions of Gnostics murdered to shut them up. They created Islam too. Then they systamatically went about murdering as many Jews as possible. Hitler was a catholic.

Those of you who call your selves born again christians are being lied to. And there is definately a 'wolf in sheeps clothing' hiding there. It isn't Masons..but it all started with the catholic church!!

I would also appreciate it if you wouldn't use my web site with "a devil in hiding" sort of description. All I've done is expose the real truth..a truth you refuse to even research.

Why do you think there was even such a thing as 'The Dark Ages'? Dark because everything was hidden, kept secret, denigned.... And still is by the church.
The nations not affected by the catholic church went about their business of scientific progress, including the practice of medicine, mathmetics, and building. This is where the Mason's come in...they were builders - highly trained mathmeticians. That is why geometry is associated with Masonry. You might want to check out the real 'forbidden secrets'... see http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdisc...forbidden.html
for a sampleing.

Why can't we just all believe in Jesus and leave it at that?

TO ALL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS IN AND OUT OF SECRET SOCIETIES
THIS IS THE REAL FACE OF THE MASONIC TEMPLE AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

THEIR master is hiriam abiff and his daddy ezekial 28 the prince and the king

our YAHSHUA /JESUS WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN DIED ON A TREE , ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND 7 WEEKS LATER SENT HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO BE OUR COMFORTER AND LEAD US INTO THE TRUTH WHICH IS ALL ABOUT YAHSHUA/JESUS

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
TO ALL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS IN AND OUT OF SECRET SOCIETIES
THIS IS THE REAL FACE OF THE MASONIC TEMPLE AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS OPPOSED TO THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

THEIR master is hiriam abiff and his daddy ezekial 28 the prince and the king

our YAHSHUA /JESUS WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN DIED ON A TREE , ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND 7 WEEKS LATER SENT HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO BE OUR COMFORTER AND LEAD US INTO THE TRUTH WHICH IS ALL ABOUT YAHSHUA/JESUS

No offense but it seems like you would be against joining any organization not just the secret socieities. Cause grant it, some organizations may not necessarily be ALL about Christ but they do a lot GREAT things for the community and others. For example: Girl Scouts :D

I AM AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF SATAN

AND THE SPIRIT OF THE ANTI CHRIST

DOPE DEALERS PAYING POOR PEOPLE'S RENT AND FEEDING THE POOR SO WHAT ....THEY STILL DOPE DEALERS.

THAT POST FROM THAT EASTERN STAR SHOULD BE YOUR CONCERN IF YOU ARE BORN AGAIN BELIEVER...YAHSHUA IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

ALL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN AND OUT OF FRATS FIGHTING THE SPIRITS BEHIND ALL UN BELIEVERS IN AND OUT OF FRATS.

WHAT SHE SAID AND THE SITES THAT SHE PUT UP ARE THE REAL DEAL. SHE DONT BELIEVE IN THE DEVIL

SHE BELIEVES HE WAS JUST MADE UP

COME ON STOP FIGHTING ME AND MINISTER FRED AND WAKE UP TO THE ANTI CHRIST THAT IS IN YOUR BACKYARD

^^^ I am not trying to fight you this but just hear me out...

How does Satan get the glory from BGLOs?? I am not speaking about Masons or OES cause I don't know too much about their beliefs. But how does an organization that is committed to service and scholarship. An organization that stands on Christian principles. An organization that encourages members to have Bible study and go to church. Be led by Satan?? How is Satan winning from this group?? I am not a BGLO but all the people who I have met that have been apart of BGLO's are Christians and sometimes better Christians than people who are NOT in these organizations.

Again I am not trying to argue or fight you on this. I am a Christian too and the Bible says not to get in quarrelsome arguments, but just answer the questions without posting the same scriptures over and over.:rolleyes:

I AM A FORMER MEBER OF A BGLO

THIER IS A SPECIFIC CONNECTION THROGH RITUALS AND INITIATIONS TO FREEMASONRY

THIS IS THE CONFLICT FOR CHRISTIANS WHO KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THAT YAHSHUA IS GOD

THAT EASTERN STAR POST IS CORRECT ABOUT WHAT MASONS ARE

HOLY SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIANS HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION BASED ON THE WORD AND OUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YAHSHUA THROUGH THE RUACH HA KODESH (THE HOLY SPIRIT)

MY QUALIFICATIONS

FORMER Q WHO PRACTICED WITCHCRAFT AND WENT THROUGH
THE SCHOOLS OF THE NATION OF ISLAM AND THE HOLY TABERNACLE MINISTRIES BEFORE BECOMING WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB THAT WAS SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
I AM A FORMER MEBER OF A BGLO

THIER IS A SPECIFIC CONNECTION THROGH RITUALS AND INITIATIONS TO FREEMASONRY

THIS IS THE CONFLICT FOR CHRISTIANS WHO KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THAT YAHSHUA IS GOD

THAT EASTERN STAR POST IS CORRECT ABOUT WHAT MASONS ARE

HOLY SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIANS HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION BASED ON THE WORD AND OUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YAHSHUA THROUGH THE RUACH HA KODESH (THE HOLY SPIRIT)

MY QUALIFICATIONS

FORMER Q WHO PRACTICED WITCHCRAFT AND WENT THROUGH
THE SCHOOLS OF THE NATION OF ISLAM AND THE HOLY TABERNACLE MINISTRIES BEFORE BECOMING WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB THAT WAS SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

Ooooh OK so when you pledge a BGLO, then you have to DENY Jesus as God?? Is that what you are saying?

I WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN WHEN I PLEDGED

I WAS RAISED IN THE CHURCH BUT I DID NOT HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM(YAHSHUA)

I HAD A N EXPERIENCE LIKE SAUL WHEN HE GOT KNOCKED OFF THAT HORSE...... FOUR YEARS AGO AFTER BEING IN THE FRAT FOR 10 YEARS

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
www.epehesians5-11.org are all former freemsaons WHO ARE NOW BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS in CHRIST JESUS

hitler was not only a so-called catholic he was a member of the thule society(secret society).

it IS what is inside of a man's heart that matters

YAHSHUA/JESUS IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

www.fish4masons.org

ezekial 8 ezekial 28

RELIGION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE NEED A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS THE ANNOINTED ONE

None of this directly answered my question.

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son

FORMER Q WHO PRACTICED WITCHCRAFT

You must 've done the witchcraft thing on your own - right (just asking) because BGLOs do not promote witchcraft.

:confused:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
[B]Question Min Hatchett (no I am not trying to be funny - I really have a question):

1. I skimmed your website. Although you explain salvation and seem to appeal to GLO members that do not know Christ - you do not show specifically how GLOs go against Christianity. MInd you - I am not talking about the few who choose to abuse their intakes - remember - there are sinners in every organization - including the church. I am talking specifics as far as why you believe a born again Christian cannot be in a GLO. The Ephesians 5-11 website that you have listed references masonry - I am asking specifically about GLOs.

2. You are very passionate about what you are doing - but do you think that this approach is the best? Do you think that you are winning more people over to Christianity - (I mean non-Christians of course) - or turning them off?

And understand my view - I am a Christian. I have met a few Christians that have denounced their letters, but when I ask in depth questions, they get very uncomfortable and cannot give me a specific answer as to why.

i can only answer for my self i am a child of Yah.... i use to be a q i was never a mason

dont go greek .com is not my website but i agree with brother fred

my pastor was an aka she shed tears when she gave that up but she got over it.

we are not mad at those who are left behind we just want to tell our story and what we believe to be true based on our lives

the elite eight and now divine nine are baby masons searching for masonic light the greek/roman/egyptian mysteries

www.ephesians5-11.org

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
[B]You must 've done the witchcraft thing on your own - right (just asking) because BGLOs do not promote witchcraft.

rebellion is as witchcraft

i studied kaballah jewish esoteric mysticism astrology and new age philosophy

as well as being a whormongering drug using sado masochistic
sex fiend

JESUS CAME IN THANK GOD AND NOW OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son

RELIGION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE NEED A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS THE ANNOINTED ONE

You are making an assumption about people you have not met and don't know that much about, other than what we choose to post here.

I think you need to realize that people find their spiritual life in their own time and in their own way. You found yours, I found mine. If you feel that I am wrong for being in a GLO then fine, you can feel that way. I DON'T CARE. My spiritual relationship is between me and God. He is the only person I have to answer to for my actions. Not you. How much do you know about God's stance on GLOs? Has He told you His personal opinion?

I find it funny / odd / strange, that you keep quoting the same one or two Bible verses. Have you not read the whole Bible? I find it troubling when people take one Bible verse, or part of a Bible verse out of context. That is why you have to read and understand the whole chapter and book. CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT!!!!!

But hey, who am I telling......:rolleyes:

So everyone, how is the weather where you are? It's rather chilly here. But it is MN.