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winnieb 03-03-2005 01:21 AM

Sorry for the delay on responding to this thread....

Rashid-- I am sorry your brothers are not supportive of you and your lifestyle choice. The manner in which you present yourself on GC exemplifies the characteristics that set Alpha men apart from the rest. I think any organizations should be thrilled to have you as a member.

Good luck-- and continue being you!

-wendi

trojangal 03-03-2005 01:59 AM

Rashid,

I am so sorry that you are going through all of this grief from other members of your fraternity. I want to say that you are a gracious individual who is above the crap that people are saying about you. You are funny, a talented writer, and a wonderful person.


This is a little late to the thread, but I wanted to share this with you.
When I taught at an HBCU, I became very close to several faculty members who were Alphas, but more importantly, several students. Many of the young men that I mentored always had the goal of becoming an Alpha, and the ones that crossed were always so happy to come show me their line jackets. When word got out that I am a member of the Order of the Eastern Star, many of these young men who were Alphas also told me that they were Masons as well. I can tell you that these gentlemen always had my back on campus, and it was truly a pleasure for these young outstanding men who represented Alpha. When I was serving as an advisor to a Christian sorority that was coming on the yard, the Alpha men were one of the first groups to step up and support the ladies in their endeavor. Some of the finest young men that I have met are fraternity brothers of yours. These men I know here would never act as hateful as those on this board have done to you. You, my friend, show a lot of these same qualities that I personally associate with the Alphas I know.

Please know that I am thinking of you; if you are ever in Birmingham, I would be delighted and honored to introduce you to some of the brothers I know here.

Lots of hugs,

Cheryl

navane 03-03-2005 02:55 AM

Oh wow, I only just now saw this thread.

Rashid, you and I are not "GC buddies" or anything, but I have to say this. I for one don't understand how anyone can talk to you for any length of time and then somehow arrive at the conclusion that you are unworthy to be an Alpha. That concept just does not compute with me. I have always regarded you as one of the more consistant and classy posters here at GC. You represent both Alpha and APO in a manner worthy of both fine organizations. Yeah, I knew you were gay....and that never factored into my opinion of you. I'm just really sorry that some of your brothers can't see past a label and see you for who you *are*. Obviously, you have more supporters here than detractors - that should speak volumes as to your true character.

.....Kelly

valkyrie 03-03-2005 01:05 PM

Rashid, like everyone else who has posted here, I'm sorry you're going through this. You're one of the few people on GC about whom I could never possibly say a bad word. You're classy, smart, fun, cool and I SO admire what you're doing with your writing.

I hope those of us who have read about this can take it as a learning opportunity -- a chance to realize that it's our differences that make our organizations interesting and strong and worthwhile. I'd hate to go to alumnae events and sit around with a bunch of women who are exactly like me, you know? I'm happy to have sisters who are straight, gay, who have kids, who don't, who are atheists or Christian or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist or who are (oh teh horror!) republicans or whatever. I just wish everyone would realize that.

RACooper 03-04-2005 05:31 AM

Rashid - when I refered to 'trash' on the Alpha Phi Alpha forum - I hoped it was undersood it was about the filth that judges a person on what they are and not who they are...

I would never lower myself to level that considers that the Alpha's I know or helped refound the chapter here at UofT are like the "brothers" here on GC... to me the vast majority of Alphas uphold the ideals and teachings that convinced me to support them here in Toronto...

The trah here on GC are to me the sad and pathetic fringe of a great Fraternity - misrepresented by the ravings and rantings of a minority of assholes (sorry can't think of a kinder term).

Keep being true to yourself and true to the teachings of Alpha Phi Alpha - not to the harassment of bigots.

The Interpreter 03-08-2005 09:26 PM

From an Alpha to an Alpha
 
Brother Senusret I,

I write you on this particular forum and not on the Alpha Phi Alpha forum for two reasons: first to dispel any publicly-held notions that may suggest that the Brotherhood en masse has chosen not to acknowledge, accept, or otherwise associate with you; and second, on a more fraternal note, to welcome you in a space where I hope you are open to receiving it.

I wish that you had received a more fraternal reception on our forum, but for reasons I am not fully aware of, nor wish presently to explore further, you did not. Be that as it may, as an Alpha, I hope by this post to ameliorate the situation without creating a situation of my own.

Welcome to the Frat, Senusret I! Alpha, like life, is always developing; constantly presenting us with new challenges and hurdles while yielding benefits and rewards. Both fortunately and unfortunately, brothers are uncomfortable with who you are. By no means should they, or anyone else, presume themselves empowered to judge you; if for no other reason than there is nothing for which you should be judged. Unfortunately for all of us, this may not presently be the majority opinion. However, by your presence and perserverance, brothers (and others) will learn not only tolerance and acceptance, but also humility and a stronger sense of brotherhood. This makes the present situation quite fortunate and important to not only your personal development, but the developments of Alpha and of our greater society.

Therefore, I wish to thank you for remaining true to yourself and for being courageous enough not only to become an Alpha, but also to speak your mind. Don't let other people encourage you to compromise your dignity; for in the end, no one can take from you what you didn't offer to be taken. Remember, you are Alpha Phi Alpha.

Take care of yourself, Brother.


Most Fraternally,
The Interpreter

FSUZeta 03-08-2005 10:10 PM

dear rashid, i am so sorry that you have felt unwelcome in your own forum. i think that sometimes it is easier to say things in writing that are hurtful and judgemental to an unknown person .
i was heartened to read that your chapter brothers have your back and like and respect you for who you are. when you are feeling down,maybe this will help you feel better. the people who know you like you,and hopefully someday those closeminded few who don't see what a super person you are will change their opinion. you are valued and well respected on greekchat, and have a wonderful kind manner about you. please know that we like you. lisa

and thank you to the interpreter for your wise counsel to rashid.

DeltAlum 03-09-2005 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FSUZeta
and thank you to the interpreter for your wise counsel to rashid.
Impressive post by your Brother, Rashid. Take it to heart. You know it's true.

Jill1228 03-09-2005 01:39 AM

What she said!
Rashid, I was saddened when I saw all the stuff that went down. You are a good Alpha Man, you are a good APO man, hell you just rock all over (not to mention you are hella foine!)

(And I can't wait till payday to get your book)

You got a lot of folx that love you here and have your back (me included). The folx that got issues? the hell with them...that is THEIR problem.

Hang in there bro!

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
I don't know you all that well personally, but you are a member that I respect a great deal on these boards. You are honest, classy, and educated. In short, you're the shit!

Maybe I need to see a picture since we keep talking about all your hottness. :D ;)


33girl 03-09-2005 02:00 AM

Interpreter -

Best. first. GC post. EVER.

:)

laidbackfella 03-09-2005 03:33 AM

I don't care about your preference in colors, your preference in schools, or your preference in the gender of your lovers.

It's never made a difference to me.

I've always got your back.

Anytime.

Anywhere.

Unregistered- 03-09-2005 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Interpreter -

Best. first. GC post. EVER.

:)

Indeed.

Brotherhood at its best.

Senusret I 03-09-2005 08:53 AM

Re: From an Alpha to an Alpha
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Interpreter
Brother Senusret I,

I write you on this particular forum and not on the Alpha Phi Alpha forum for two reasons: first to dispel any publicly-held notions that may suggest that the Brotherhood en masse has chosen not to acknowledge, accept, or otherwise associate with you; and second, on a more fraternal note, to welcome you in a space where I hope you are open to receiving it.

I wish that you had received a more fraternal reception on our forum, but for reasons I am not fully aware of, nor wish presently to explore further, you did not. Be that as it may, as an Alpha, I hope by this post to ameliorate the situation without creating a situation of my own.

Welcome to the Frat, Senusret I! Alpha, like life, is always developing; constantly presenting us with new challenges and hurdles while yielding benefits and rewards. Both fortunately and unfortunately, brothers are uncomfortable with who you are. By no means should they, or anyone else, presume themselves empowered to judge you; if for no other reason than there is nothing for which you should be judged. Unfortunately for all of us, this may not presently be the majority opinion. However, by your presence and perserverance, brothers (and others) will learn not only tolerance and acceptance, but also humility and a stronger sense of brotherhood. This makes the present situation quite fortunate and important to not only your personal development, but the developments of Alpha and of our greater society.

Therefore, I wish to thank you for remaining true to yourself and for being courageous enough not only to become an Alpha, but also to speak your mind. Don't let other people encourage you to compromise your dignity; for in the end, no one can take from you what you didn't offer to be taken. Remember, you are Alpha Phi Alpha.

Take care of yourself, Brother.


Most Fraternally,
The Interpreter

What more can be said?

Thank you, dear Brother. THANK YOU.

cashmoney 03-09-2005 11:42 AM

Re: It's a damn shame....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
You know what, I post this at the risk of sounding unbrotherly, but fuck it.

I am really tired of private messages with intolerant, hateful messages that question why I became an Alpha. I am sick of grown ass men -- who are supposed to be showing me guidance and wisdom -- telling me that Alpha doesn't want me, that I never should have been initiated, that we need to get rid of all gays in Alpha, that I give Alpha a bad name.

I am sick of the bitch ass moderator in my forum saying things like:



I LOVE Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. Don't get me wrong. But when we sing "Manly deeds, scholarship, and love for all mankind....where were these people?

Yes I am a gay black man and I am an Alpha -- so the fuck what? Am I THE FIRST DAMN ONE????? From 1906 to 2003, I was the first queer Alpha to ever walk the earth?

I have been shown more brotherhood from Pikes, AEPis, LXAs, SigEps, hell....I've been shown more SINCERE Brotherhood by most of the men on this board. But when it comes to my own frat, it comes down to throwing your hands up and not being able to do anything about me AT BEST, and at worst, letting other brothers be UNBROTHERLY in our own forum??? WE LET PHASHRINER SPEAK BUT WE CLOSE A FUCKING THREAD ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY????

That is complete and utter bullshit, and I am fucking sick of it.

THANK GOD that in the REAL world all the REAL Alphas I know truly have my back and accept me for who I am. But to date, I am disgusted by the lack of brotherhood that's been shown to me by my own frat brothers on this board.

THANK YOU to everyone who has supported me on this board....i'm not talking about book sales, either. I am talking about that sincere ride or die brotherhood and friendship.

This may be "messy"....this may be "unbrotherly".....but at this point, I don't care. I really don't. I will NEVER go back into the Alpha thread and I will delete any PMs I recieve from Alphas on this site. That is the god's honest truth and I MEAN IT.




Why don't you go inactive and start a gay fraternity for black males? Or better yet, just could always just join one of those "gay" clubs on campus. It may not be all black people, but they'd all be gay.


-I'm being serious.

GeekyPenguin 03-09-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Re: It's a damn shame....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cashmoney
Why don't you go inactive and start a gay fraternity for black males? Or better yet, just could always just join one of those "gay" clubs on campus. It may not be all black people, but they'd all be gay.


-I'm being serious.

He is out of school.


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